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Post #121 Wed, Oct 1, 9:30 AM
ajzahn
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 LOL @:

"The lap�s nearly over and for all he knows there may bo only a corner or two affected - loalized rainfall is common here. At the next right-hander the tail steps out, but Bassenq�s on top of it - a subtle liftand a stap of counter-correction brings it back. In an instant he�s on the power again.

The next section rides over a blind crest. The track actually krinks right, left and then right, but you can straight-line the lot, clipping kerbs as you go, which is what Bassenq does.

The intimate interface between rubber and tarmac has been partly seperated by a thin water film and the indroduction of contrasting cambers complete the division. Control of the Koenigsegg�s trajectory no longer remians in Basseng�s hands. It instantly spins right and a fraction of a second later the front-left of teh CCX makes hard contact with the armco. Momentum rules now, smashing the rear-left before rotating the car for the remaining two corners to take their turns.

... A covered truck is deployed to swep it up and keep it hidden from cameras."
Post #122 Wed, Oct 1, 9:33 AM
ajzahn
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Quote from DTA
Ajzahn, could also please post the test of the Twingo RS?
maybe tomorrow as well as the ultimate road test of the Caparo T1, the track test of the Ariel Atom S/C vs. Lotus 2-Eleven vs. KTM X-Bow vs. Caterahm R500
Post #123 Wed, Oct 1, 9:34 AM
DTA
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Quote from ajzahn
maybe tomorrow as well as the ultimate road test of the Caparo T1, the track test of the Ariel Atom S/C vs. Lotus 2-Eleven vs. KTM X-Bow vs. Caterahm R500
Ok cool thanks
Post #124 Wed, Oct 1, 9:36 AM
ajzahn
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 you�re welcome
Post #125 Wed, Oct 1, 1:53 PM
sox
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 love how he poops on the segg and at the same time lavishes the Zonda
Post #126 Thu, Oct 2, 12:19 AM
Kimofil
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 Great thanks for scans!
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Post #127 Thu, Oct 2, 1:57 AM
mafalda
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 someone explain to me: what about the Enzo? some problems with eletronic suspension?
I can't read eglish very well...
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Post #128 Thu, Oct 2, 2:06 AM
Kimofil
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Quote from mafalda
someone explain to me: what about the Enzo? some problems with eletronic suspension?
I can't read eglish very well...
Yes, problems with electronic dampers.
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Post #129 Thu, Oct 2, 2:51 AM
Joao Gois
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Masters…the only thing more amazing then what a German did for Ferrari’s F-1 team is how great a car Ferrari can produce with German intellect, direction, evaluation and insight. Sadly, despite naming this flashy cry for attention after their arrogant (thankfully, or there wouldn’t have been another Italian manufacturer for still more Germans to rescue) founder, and giving it a great big V12, the Enzo is still unable to match a 6-cylinder car produced in 1997 to either 100mph or through the quarter mile. And before anyone who values flash over substance asserts that an Enzo wasn’t built to drag race on Pinks, it may be appropriate to note that this 97’ 6 cylinder engineering marvel stops faster from both 80 and 60mph, and holds the skidpad better. Hell, the Boxster S is quicker through the slalom (and stops faster from both 80 and 60mph). (Enzo 0-100=6.6, ¼ mile = 11.1, 60-0=109ft, 80-0=188ft Skidpad=1.01 Slalom=73.0mph Road & Track July 2003: 911GT1 0-100=6.2, ¼ mile=10.9, 60-0=98ft, 80-0=154ft, Skidpad=1.07 Road & Track September 1998: Boxster S 60-0 =107ft, 80-0=187ft, Slalom=73.9 March 2005 Road & Track)

Maybe one day, if they hire every resident of Stuttgart, Ferrari will produce a car that can endure more then a trip to the tanning salon, doesn’t need $75,000 scheduled maintenance, and can be appreciated honestly for more then "what it can do when its tuned up, the weather is right and the road is free of any variation in height/quality". Some might say these goals aim to high. Given the excuse laden nature of the majority of ferrari owners/enthusiasts who's indifference to quality of product/over use of the term "passion" is mirrored all to well by the engineering department in Maranello, its no wonder that while Porsche is consistently among the top 5 most profitable car companies in the world (and was the most profitable in 2006), Ferrari just missed being owned by the blue oval and currently, FIAT owns 56%, Mediobanca owns 15%, Commerzbank AG owns 10%, and the late great Lehman Brothers owned 7%…the point, Porsche has never produced a station wagon,(yes, the prancing horse has on several occasions, most recently with the 456) AND there is no substitute for Porsche design,racing history, engineering, quality of product, speed/agility/endurance of product,profitability of company,and character/intellect of owner/enthusiast.
Nice try comparing a 25 unit racing homologation GT1 car with a totally civilized road-designed car. What stops me from comparing your GT1 with the FXX. It would eat it alive...

And you say Porsche bla bla bla 5 most profitable. And Ferrari isn't because it doesn't want to. They simply limit production, which is consistently sold for two years in advance of prduction.
Ferrari missed being owned by Ford back in the 60´s when your grandfather was still chasing girls.

AND you troll about Ferrari producing the most beautiful station wagon in the planet? So, what those thingies you crouts call "Cayenne" or "Panamera"? Oh, right... an SUV and a 4-door sedan...

No substitute for Porsche design, racing bla bla bla... right. So why do Porsches all look the same like EVER? The 901 isn't that different from a 997 or a Boxster or a 930...

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Post #130 Thu, Oct 2, 8:20 AM
alexly
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 Great scan, thanks. The Enzo could have gone 3 to 5seconds quicker without the suspension problem.
Post #131 Thu, Oct 2, 8:49 AM
Kimofil
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Quote from alexly
Great scan, thanks. The Enzo could have gone 3 to 5seconds quicker without the suspension problem.
Yes, i also think so. And Zonda F also may be faster on 1-2 second.
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Post #132 Thu, Oct 2, 2:19 PM
BILLY IDOL
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That CCX lap is about what I would expect when the suspension isn't adjusted for the 'Ring. I'll wait for K'segg to do their own testing.

The Enzo impressed me most in this test.
make it stop
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Post #133 Thu, Oct 2, 7:14 PM
E30 Evo Sport
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 Those are some incredible machines...great results and a nice read.
M Power = Prepare for some retarted $H!T
Post #134 Sat, Oct 4, 12:56 PM
rs4man
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The GTR times still blow my mind lol
It's a computer/playstation. It probably has stored information about nurburgring/silverstone/laguna seca etc in its HD. Knows the exact lines it must take through curves, in what gear and how much throttle and breaks must be used. That's how the 7:25 is achieved.

Then again one could just spend $500 on a PS3 and have just as much fun, if not more.
I want a sportscar.
Post #135 Sat, Oct 4, 1:03 PM
got hp
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Quote from alexly
Great scan, thanks. The Enzo could have gone 3 to 5seconds quicker without the suspension problem.
you really think the enzo would beat the mc12 by that much?
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Post #136 Sun, Oct 5, 8:51 AM
alexly
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Quote from got hp
you really think the enzo would beat the mc12 by that much?
well, with damper problems, the Enzo still manage 7:25.21, I don't see why it cannot shave 3s off a lap in nurburgring without the problem.

Edited by alexly - Sun, Oct 5, 8:57 AM
Post #137 Sun, Oct 5, 8:59 AM
TyCosta
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Quote from alexly
well, with damper problems, the Enzo still manage 7:25.21, I don't see why it cannot shave 3s off a lap in nurburgring without the problem.
I say the most the enzo would beat the Maserati by is maybe a second. you have to remember the mc12 has more downforce and weighs a little less than the enzo so it is probably faster through the corners regardless of the damper problem
Post #138 Sun, Oct 5, 9:38 AM
Kimofil
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Quote from TyCosta
I say the most the enzo would beat the Maserati by is maybe a second. you have to remember the mc12 has more downforce and weighs a little less than the enzo so it is probably faster through the corners regardless of the damper problem
MC12 have steel brake, less power and Pirelli PZero Corsa tires. Bridgestone Scuderia tires, which is Enzo default, perform bad on racetrack. For example, Enzo complete Fiorano lap in 1.24.9 on Bridgestone Scuderia, and do 1.22.3 on Pirelli PZero Corsa.
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Post #139 Sun, Oct 5, 10:14 AM
lambornima
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 why the hell would Ferrari put the Enzo on inferior tires?
Post #140 Sun, Oct 5, 3:15 PM
TyCosta
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Quote from Kimofil
MC12 have steel brake, less power and Pirelli PZero Corsa tires. Bridgestone Scuderia tires, which is Enzo default, perform bad on racetrack. For example, Enzo complete Fiorano lap in 1.24.9 on Bridgestone Scuderia, and do 1.22.3 on Pirelli PZero Corsa.
O i didn't know the MC12 ran PZero Corsa's.
Post #141 Sun, Oct 5, 3:20 PM
lancia monk
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EVO was a good read this month, think i'm used to the new layout by now. Everyone failed to mention that the CCX crashed during the test.




Raging balls.
i mentioned it n00b
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Post #142 Sun, Oct 5, 11:17 PM
ajzahn
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i mentioned it n00b
me to!
Post #143 Sun, Oct 5, 11:59 PM
Kimofil
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Quote from lambornima
why the hell would Ferrari put the Enzo on inferior tires?
Sponsorship maybe.
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Post #144 Mon, Oct 6, 5:11 AM
EliseS2
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Quote from mafalda
someone explain to me: what about the Enzo? some problems with eletronic suspension?
I can't read eglish very well...
The dampeners/shocks over heated.

Dampeners dampen suspension motion. Just imagine hanging a tire from a spring, pull on the spring and let it go. The tire will just bounce up and down and up an down. Now if you add a dampener to this the tire, the dampener slows the tire down. So now the tire is pulled down and it then slowly returns to the original position, without bouncing back and forth. In order to do this the dampener takes energy from the system. It converts this energy to heat. The dampener works by pushing oil through little holes. When the oil heats up too much, the oil flows easier through the holes. So when the dampeners get too hot, they stop working. Obviously the long lamp of the n'ring combined with the roughness of the track, caused too much heat in the dampeners. You will notice looking at the enzo rear suspension that connected the spring/dampeners is a hose connected to a little bottle. This is called a remote reservoirs. The are filled with some of the oil from the dampeners. Being separated from the actual dampeners allows the fluid to be cooled a little more to avoid overheating. In this case it was not enough.
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Post #145 Mon, Oct 6, 5:14 AM
ajzahn
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 at least the Enzo is much less a race car than the MC12
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