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Post #1 Fri, Jul 20, 3:59 AM
ajzahn
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 here it is, the sport auto Supertest of the Ferrari 5999 BTB Fiorano, full specs and track test at the Nurburgring Nordschleife and the Hockenheim short track:

Nurburgring Nordschleife in 7:47 mins.

here the F 599 GTB lines up with the (more powerfeul) Lamborghini Murcielage LP 640 and the (muchh less powerful) Porsche 997 GT3 RS and beats the Corvette Z06 to 2 secs.

the suspsension of the 599 GTB, with a perfect set-up for the daily driver, also works well at the race track even though it is coming to its limits, it could be a bit stiffer.

Steering and handling is very precise, the lap times speaks for it self.


Hochenhein short track in 1:12.0 mins.

here the Lamborhhini Murcielage LP 640 and the Porsche GT 3 RS are slightly faster than the huge and heavy F 599 GTB but it beats the Mercedes CLK DTM ATM to o,5 secs.

even though it´s size and weight, the 599 GTB shows an outstanding performance, also outstanding the achievement at the track. The semi-automatic transmission works as perfect as the brakes, the handling is perfect, no overtseer at all. There is so much grip at the rear axle that there even is a tendency for understeer, with 620 bhp, no bad omen


0-200-0 km/h in 15.9 secs.
0-200 km/h in 10.8 secs.
200-0 km/h in 5.1 secs.

Mercedes SLR McLaren and Pagani Zonda F are slightly faster but it beats the Lamborghini Murcielago LP 640 to 0.2 secs.

thanks to the launch control, the 1748 kgs heavy beast accelerates from stand to 100 km/h in 3.6 and to 200 km/h in 10.8 secs. The spund is breathtaking and the semi-automatic F1 transmission is unbeatable, pretty much like the semi-sequential of pure race car.

the grip is extremely high due to the rear differential with variable lock rates


aerodynamic

Cd = 0.33
41/24 kg uplift in front/rear at 200 km/h

as there are not that much visible aerodynamic helping devices except of the huge rear diffussor, the 599 GTB is well balanced. CD of 0.33 is bit high, better figures can be achieved at the Ferrrai wind tunnel with rolling ground rather than the static Mercedes wind tunnel


max. lat. acceleration: 1.3g

same level as the Audi R8, Z o6, Ford GT or the LP 640

seems that the specially for the 599 GTB made Pirelli P Zero tyres are not that much different from the Corsa specs, also the wet handling is pretty much the same, expalins why it lines up with the others as mentioned above


specs:

620 PS at 7,600 rpm
608 Nm at 5,600 rpm
5.999 litres
103.4 PS/litre
compression 11.2:1

gear ratios
1st: 3.15
2nd: 2,18
3rd: 1,57
4th: 1,19
5th: 0,94
6th: 0.76
axle: 4,18

tyres:
Pirelli P Zero, 245/40 ZR 19 in front, 305/35 ZR 20 in rear

MSRP: 225,310 EUR
plus options:
carbon brakes: 15,710 EUR
Scuderia Ferrari logos: 1,535 EUR
Carbon Kit I: 4,715 EUR
Carbon Kit II: 4,700 EUR
passenger airbag on/off: 465 EUR
leather ceiling: 395 EUR
Bose sound system: 2,620 EUR
Recaro sports seats: 3,155 EUR
Price as tested: 258,805 EUR

weight: 1,748 kgs
power-to-weight: 357.14 PS/ton
weight distribution: 48.1/51.9 % in front/rear

acceleration:

0-100 km/h 3.6 secs.
0-160 km/h 7.2 secs.
0-200 km/h 10.8 secs.

80-120 km/h 3.5/5.0/7.0 secs. in 4th/5th/6th gear
100-160 km/h 6.9/9.8/13.8 secs. in in 4th/5th/6th gear

Vmax: 331 km/h


handling

18 m slalom: 68 km/h
36 m slalom: 133 km/h

slightly slower than the LP 640 and the GT3 RS, same level as ther Ford GT, slightly faster then the R8 even though to it´s high weight

the direct steering helps to direct exactly into the direction you want, the adaptive dampers helps to keep it on track


evasion test 110 m: 145 km/h

perfect handling, perfect balance, high stability even though the LP 640, Ford GT, CLK DTM AMG are faster much/slightly faster


braking
100-0 km/h in 35.6 m
200-0 km/h in 140.4 m


wet handling track
1.31 mins.

again the specially for the 599 GTB made P Zero tyres show nearly the same wet handling as the Corsa spec tyres, more optimized for dry handling and drag

the tyres offer more grip when they are warm, when cold they 1st show some understeer and some sudden oversteer, good to have eletronic helpimng means such as launsh control ESP


verdict: 72 out of 80 pts.

same as the Porsche 997 Turbo, 2 pts. less than the Pagani Zonda F but 3 and even 3 pts. more than the Ford GT or Corvette Z 06

one doesn´t have to be a fanboy or impressed by Ferrari´s racing heritage to become addicted to this super sports GT

it is the engine and it´s sound what takes you into the ban, revving up the enourmous V12 is one of the highlights, orgasm for the ears

the semi-automatic is one of the best transmissions ever

the F 599 GTB is no diva, no prima donna, a datly driver with no complications, not like so many Ferraris before, it is more comfortabe and performs much better

Edited by ajzahn - Fri, Jul 20, 4:48 AM
Post #2 Fri, Jul 20, 4:16 AM
zjpj
Supercar Messiah - 1103

 I didn't like the Maranello, but Ferrari really hit a homerun with this car.
Post #3 Fri, Jul 20, 4:21 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62542

 homerun for Ferrari at the Ring, LOL

7:28 --- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Roehrl,(Autobild 07/04)
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h – Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/ 1230 kg, (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06),
www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=83550
7:34 --- 163.586 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto), oct,17-18 05, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=98&page=&type=news,
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7.39* -- 161.575 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=91&page=&type=news
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h – Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to www.caranddriver.com/previews/12956/first-drive-mercedes-clk63-amg-black-series.html
7:45*-- 159.484 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, worls driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h –- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=134701


they just managed to break into the Porsche territory

Edited by ajzahn - Fri, Jul 20, 6:33 AM
Post #4 Fri, Jul 20, 4:30 AM
arakis
New Member - 28

 It blew the 997 turbo off the ring 7 sec quicker wow
Post #5 Fri, Jul 20, 4:41 AM
Porsche addict
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Quote from arakis
It blew the 997 turbo off the ring 7 sec quicker wow
Yeah but it's just as fast as the GT3 RS around the ring.
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Post #6 Fri, Jul 20, 4:44 AM
lambornima
Supercar Messiah - 2878

 great test, my guess would was 7:49 for the Nring. something still seams fishy. never the less, ill take it as is.
Post #7 Fri, Jul 20, 4:46 AM
Ferrari Now And Forever
Supercar Messiah - 1139

 This is a heavy GT car & Ferrari did in fact up the game.

I'm salavating thinking about the F60's performance!!!
"I never invented anything, but I always copied the best. To make my motor I asked, which is the best? And the response was, the 12-cylinder of Ferrari."---Ferruccio Lamborghini

"The Gallardo's engine is built in Italy. I guarantee it."----Rocka Forte
Post #8 Fri, Jul 20, 4:48 AM
Porsche addict
Supercar Messiah - 50808
Quote from Ferrari Now And Forever
This is a heavy GT car & Ferrari did in fact up the game.

I'm salavating thinking about the F60's performance!!!
Still they haven't given an Enzo out to be tested on the nring
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Post #9 Fri, Jul 20, 4:53 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62542
Quote from Porsche addict
Still they haven't given an Enzo out to be tested on the nring
maybe it wouldn´t do any better due to reduced ground clearance at this bumby track
Post #10 Fri, Jul 20, 4:55 AM
Porsche addict
Supercar Messiah - 50808
Quote from ajzahn
maybe it wouldn´t do any better due to reduced ground clearance at this bumby track
Yeah but I still think it's silly, they are obviously afraid it wont be as fast as they want it to be.
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Post #11 Fri, Jul 20, 5:02 AM
Vladislaus
Supercar Messiah - 5687
Quote from Porsche addict
Yeah but it's just as fast as the GT3 RS around the ring.
But the 911 GT3 RS isn't a car to be compared with this one. The F430 S is the car the 911 GT3 RS is going to compete with.
Post #12 Fri, Jul 20, 5:03 AM
lambornima
Supercar Messiah - 2878
Quote from Porsche addict
Yeah but I still think it's silly, they are obviously afraid it wont be as fast as they want it to be.
believe me, they would sends a whole crew to make sure its at least as fast at the CCR.
Post #13 Fri, Jul 20, 5:06 AM
KRSONe1
Supercar Messiah - 24526
Quote from zjpj
I didn't like the Maranello, but Ferrari really hit a homerun with this car.
it really stole the SLR's Thunder
Long separated by cruel fate, the star-crossed lovers raced across the grassy field toward each other like two freight trains, one having left Cleveland at 6:36 p.m. traveling at 55 mph, the other from Topeka at 4:19 p.m. at a speed of 35 mph.


http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=7&fID=39&tID=106139
Post #14 Fri, Jul 20, 5:07 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62542
Quote from arakis
It blew the 997 turbo off the ring 7 sec quicker wow
... but has 200 PS more!
Post #15 Fri, Jul 20, 5:08 AM
WhiteChocolateWorld
Supercar Messiah - 41177
Quote from Ferrari Now And Forever
This is a heavy GT car & Ferrari did in fact up the game.

I'm salavating thinking about the F60's performance!!!
Nurburg: Tied with the fatass 640
Hochenheim: Slower than the fatass 640
Skidpad: Tied with the fatass 640
Slalom: Slower than the fatass 640
Evasion: Slower than the fatass 640

OWNED BY AUDIGHINI AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH





/w00t mode (that felt kinda good)
This is for Chris Draper:
A boot for Christmas.
Post #16 Fri, Jul 20, 5:09 AM
WhiteChocolateWorld
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 Deploy thread/discuss/awesome car btw.
This is for Chris Draper:
A boot for Christmas.


Edited by WhiteChocolateWorld - Fri, Jul 20, 5:09 AM
Post #17 Fri, Jul 20, 5:15 AM
mafalda
Supercar Messiah - 3408

 Finally a lap with handbrake....
CIVIS ROMANVS SVM
Post #18 Fri, Jul 20, 5:17 AM
lambornima
Supercar Messiah - 2878
Quote from WhiteChocolateWorld
Nurburg: Tied with the fatass 640
Hochenheim: Slower than the fatass 640
Skidpad: Tied with the fatass 640
Slalom: Slower than the fatass 640
Evasion: Slower than the fatass 640

OWNED BY AUDIGHINI AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAH





/w00t mode (that felt kinda good)
but the 599 doesnt compete with the LP640!!!!!! noo!!! but the LP640 DOES compete with million dollar special edition carzZ like the ENZO!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!
Post #19 Fri, Jul 20, 5:18 AM
zjpj
Supercar Messiah - 1103

 Even if the GT3RS were faster, I just really don't see myself ever buying one over this car, possibly if it were mostly going to be a track car. And, someone who can afford a 599 can probably afford a GT3RS too.
Post #20 Fri, Jul 20, 5:18 AM
WhiteChocolateWorld
Supercar Messiah - 41177
Quote from lambornima
but the 599 doesnt compete with the LP640!!!!!! noo!!! but the LP640 DOES compete with million dollar special edition carzZ like the ENZO!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!
The LP640 is clearly Lamboraudi's way of copying Ferrari's future supercar, coming out in 2014. THIEVES
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A boot for Christmas.
Post #21 Fri, Jul 20, 5:20 AM
Porsche addict
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Quote from Vladislaus
But the 911 GT3 RS isn't a car to be compared with this one. The F430 S is the car the 911 GT3 RS is going to compete with.
Wrong, because the GTR RS is seriously underpowered compared to the F430 S. It's also a lot less expensive. The new GT2 will be the F430 S it's rival.
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Post #22 Fri, Jul 20, 5:20 AM
lambornima
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Quote from zjpj
Even if the GT3RS were faster, I just really don't see myself ever buying one over this car, possibly if it were mostly going to be a track car. And, someone who can afford a 599 can probably afford a GT3RS too.
I agree. but I do know of people who skip on the GT3RS/F430S/GallardoSL to go right to cars like the F430 Challenge for track use.
Post #23 Fri, Jul 20, 5:21 AM
Porsche addict
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Quote from mikael
Hahaha, i`am amazed how you kids take for granted a german test of an italian car.
1 sec slower than an 996 GT2. hahahahaha

You germans have a very stranhe sense of humour ROTFLMAO
You are an idiot. The Sport Auto supertests have always been very reliable and unbiased.
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Post #24 Fri, Jul 20, 5:25 AM
ajyawn
Senior Member - 226
Quote from mikael
Hahaha, i`am amazed how you kids take for granted a german test of an italian car.
1 sec slower than an 996 GT2. hahahahaha

You germans have a very stranhe sense of humour ROTFLMAO
German humour requires a certain amount of intelligence
Post #25 Fri, Jul 20, 5:27 AM
lambornima
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 the reason Porsche's get better times for Nring is because they are made for that place. suspension setups and gearing are made to be optimized there, and once something is changed for use of a DD road car (ie 997TT) then the time becomes less impressive (ie the 997TT's 7:54)
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