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Post #1 Fri, Jun 20, 5:14 AM
ajzahn
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here are the scans, a short transcription and summary of the artice will follow soon:
Post #2 Fri, Jun 20, 5:40 AM
mafalda
Supercar Messiah - 3913

Incredibly verdict: 78/69, a little bit better than GT2
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Post #3 Fri, Jun 20, 5:52 AM
BMWM3
Supercar Messiah - 1369

16 second improvement at the ring over the F430 wow.......

thanks for article ajzahn

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Post #4 Fri, Jun 20, 6:13 AM
ajzahn
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short transcription:

Nurburgring Nordschleife in 7:39 mins, 10 pts.

the F430 SC is one of the very few supercars, the 6th fatests of all (serial production) cars ever tested there with a lap time below 7:40 and so score full points. The F430 doesn´t just sound like race car, it also baheves and feels as one


Hockenheim short track in 1:10.3 mins.

a perfect suspension, a rear axle with nearly no oversteer and a front axle with nearly no understeer, makes it very safe. The handling is absolutely perfect, the ceramic disk brakes extremely chargeable, the subjective driving impression let you feel not just driving fast, you are driving really fast, the perfect traction is just a part of the whole masterpiece of art.


0-200-0 km/h in 11.4 secs.

the power-to-weight ratio of 370 bhp per ton in comjunction with the SuperFast 2 F1 gear box allows outstanding acceleration times, 0-200 in 11.4 secs. The brakes really bite, it takes only 125.7 meters to come to halt at that speed. Traction porfist also from the F1-Trac traction control and the electronically managed E-Diff limited slip differential


max. lat. accelleration of 1.4g

thanks to the Pirelli P Tero Corsa tyres


specs as tested:

V8, 4.308 liters
bore x stroke: 92.0 x 81.0 mms
compresison: 11.9:1
510 PS at 8,500 rpm
470 Nm at 5,250 rpm
118.4 PS/liter

6-speed semi-automatic transmission

gear ratios:
1st 3.29
2nd 2.16
3rd 1.56
4th 1.22
5th 0.97
6th 0.78
rear axle 4.30

tyres:
Pirelli P Zero Corsa
235/35 ZR 19 in front, 285/35 ZR 19 in rear

length/width/height: 4512 / 1923 / 1199 mm
track: 1669 mm in front, 16161 mm in rear
wheel base: 2600 mm

MSRP: 206,300 EUR

224,220 ER with options like rool cage, 4-point harnesses, adj. diver´s seat, racing stripe, golden 19" rims, carbon steering wheel with LEDs

kerb weight: 1402 kg
power-to-weight: 370 PS/ton

acceleration:
0-100 km/h 3.6 s
0-160 km/h 7.6 s
0-200 km/h 11.4 s

Vmax: 320 km/h

18m slalom: 71.1 km/h
36m slalom: 136 km/h
110m evasion test: 148 km/h

wet handling: 1:30.1 mins. (CST off)

extremely high grip niveau of the Pirelli P Zero Corsa tyres in the wet


verdict:

comapred to the standard F430, the F430 Scuderia weighs about 100 kgs less, te result is sensational. With 78/80 pts. it is. like the Porsche 997 GT2, one of the fastest and best sports cars in the World. It doesn´t even charge the driver more than the standard version but is much faster. The 4.3l V8 is a dream of an engine withan explosive character, always demanding and loud. In combination with the F1 transmission, it is pretty much like a racing car. If it is true that Michael Schumahcer has worked on the set-up of the F430 430, he did a fantastic job.


Post #5 Fri, Jun 20, 6:18 AM
amenasce
Sucks as hell - 64182

7.39 for a car that wasnt set up at the ring is pretty damn good.
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Post #6 Fri, Jun 20, 9:38 AM
lambornima
Supercar Messiah - 2919

thank you. realistic times. brakes are insane!
Post #7 Fri, Jun 20, 9:51 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62717

pretty impresive compared to even much more pwoerful cars at the Nurburgring:

7:27.82 167.20 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng (EVO #112) www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/228650/
www.supercarmovies.com/html/contentEPISODE5movie.php
7:28* -- 166.65 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, * company test driver Walther Roehrl (Autobild 07/04)
7:29* -- 164.68 km/h -- 2009 Nissan GT-R, ??? PS/??? kg, *company test driver Tochio Suzuki according to mfr. www.nissaneurope-newsbureau.com/nissanmedia/front?controller=SubRubrik&id=nissan_europe_press_room_10772091931250/news_and_events_10772871591872/presse_releases_10781508884370/corporate_10781511772180&pubId=gt_r_achieves_under______at_nurburgring_12095056384513968
7:31 --- 164.38 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl according to www.automotorsport.se/tv/?m=11159
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.) www.autodrome-cannes.com/index-eng.asp
7:32* -- 164.07 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) www.caranddriver.com/previews/14155/first-drive-2008-porsche-911-gt2.html
7:32.18 164.07 km/h Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl www.autobild.de/artikel/Themen-Testberichte-Duell-am-Ring_422642.html
7:32.44 163.91 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.88 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) www.gemballa.com/news/gtr6002.html
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=83550
7:33 --- 163.71 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=142508
7:34 --- 163.59 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto oct,17-18 05) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=75219
7:35* -- 162.86 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr. estimation) www.motortrend.com/future/spied_vehicles/112_0712_2008_nissan_gt_r
7:35 --- 162.86 km/h -- Ruf Rt12, 650 PS/1573 kg (sport auto 01(08) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=150345
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7:36 --- 162.63 km/h -- Mercedes SL 63 AMG Black Series www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507838_13987.hbs
7:37* -- 162.28 km/h -- Honda NSX test mule, 550 PS * www.autoblog.com/2008/06/19/nsx-laps-ring-unofficially-at-7-37/
7:38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507671_13987.hbs
7.38* -- 161.63 km/h -- Nissan R35 GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki, slick cut tyres, track partially wet www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=123066?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*#40
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uGe_fyhQazg http://youtube.com/watch?v=mqjnwbji13k
7.39* -- 161.58 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.58 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=91&page=&type=news
7.39 --- 161.58 km/h -- TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=1&fID=1&tID=140084
www.sportauto-online.de/aktuell_U_sport/on-line/hxcms_article_507063_14469.hbs
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.22 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)


Edited by ajzahn - Fri, Jun 20, 9:55 AM
Post #8 Fri, Jun 20, 9:54 AM
ajzahn
Posts - 62717

... and the Hockenheim short track:

1:08.6 --- 136.44 km/h - Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/1475 kg, (sport auto 05/05)
1:08.862 135.92 km/h - Gemballa GTR 650 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann*
1:08.882 135.88 km/h - Cargraphic-Porsche 997 GT3 RSC 4.0, 465 PS, Marc Basseng (Tuner GP 07) www.sportauto-online.de/hps/img/hxmedia//mpsspa/2007/05/HBTuqRbU.pdf
1:08.9 --- 135.88 km/h - Cargraphic-Porsche 997 GT3 RSC 4.0, 480 PS/1495 kg (sport auto Tuning special 08)

1:09.007 135.64 km/h - Techart GT street S (based on 996 GT2) Frank Schmickler**
1:09.1 --- 135.46 km/h - Porsche 996 GT3 Cup (sport auto 02/99)
1:09.1 --- 135.46 km/h � Radical SR3, 205 PS/576 kg (sport auto 09/05)
1:09.2 --- 135.26 km/h - Manthey Porsche M700, 695 PS/1416kg (sport auto 12/04)
1:09.2 --- 135.26 km/h - Mosler MT900 GT, 520 PS/1278 kg (sport auto 10/07)
1:09.261 125.15 km/h - Cargraphic Porsche 997 GT3 RSC 4.0, 465 PS/1365 kg (Tuner GP 08)
1:09.358 134.95 km/h � Cargraphic Porsche 996 GT3 RSC, 435 PS/1340 kg (Tuner Grand Prix 2006)
1:09.464 134.75 km/h - Gemballa GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann ***
1:09.537 134.61 km/h -TechArt GT street S (based on 996 GT2) Roland Asch***
1:09.7 --- 134.22 km/h � Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 03/08)
1:09.741 134.21 km/h - TechArt GT street S (based on 996 GT2) Frank Schmickler* www.techart.de/events_2004/news_tuner_grand_prix_2004_e.htm
1:09.8 --- 134.20 km/h - Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, www.koenigsegg.com/news/articles.asp?news=98&page=&type=news
1:09.9 --- 133.91 km/h � TechArt GT street (based on 997 GT2) 630 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=1&fID=1&tID=140084

1:10.0 --- 133.71 km/h � Reiter Engineering Lamborghini Gallardo GT3 Strada, 510 PS/1565 kg (sport auto 02/07)
1:10.0 --- 133.71 km/h - RS Porsche 996 GT2
1:10.2 --- 133.34 km/h - Ruf Rt12, 650 PS/1573 kg (sport auto 01/08)
1:10.3 --- 133.14 km/h � Cargraphic Porsche 997 Turbo RSC, 544 PS/1550 kg (sport auto 03/08)
1:10.3 --- 133.14 km/h � Cargraphic Porsche 996 GT3 RSC (�04)
1:10.3 --- 133.14 km/h � Ferrari F430 Scuderia, 510 PS/1402 kg (sport auto 07/08)
1:10.382 133.120 km/h - TechArt GTstreet Cabrio, 580 PS/1566 kg (Tuner GP 08) www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=1&fID=1&tID=158346
1:10.417 132.922 km/h - Gemballa GTR EVO, 680 PS/1337 kg, Wolfgang Kaufmann (TGP 05)
1:10.5 --- 132.77 km/h - RS-Tuning Porsche 996 GT2
1:10.508 132.751 km/h - AP-Car Design Porsche GT3, 400 PS (Tuner Grand Prix 07) www.sportauto-online.de/hps/img/hxmedia//mpsspa/2007/05/HBTuqRbU.pdf
1:10.538 132.69 km/h - Cargraphic Porsche 996 GT3**
1:10.582 132.62 km/h - MTM Audi R8 Supercharged, 550 PS/1600 kg (Tuner GP 08)

Post #9 Fri, Jun 20, 11:05 AM
ErikT595
Member - 59

Thanks for posting!

But is 0-200-0 km/h in 11.4 secs not 0-200 in 11.4s?


Edited by ErikT595 - Fri, Jun 20, 11:29 AM
Post #10 Fri, Jun 20, 12:30 PM
John
Supercar Guru - 4552

Thanks for the scans.

That's impressive! I hope Top Gear got their hands on a Scuderia this year.

Post #11 Fri, Jun 20, 12:46 PM
DrVertigo
Supercar Messi - 2038

Quote from John
Thanks for the scans.

That's impressive! I hope Top Gear got their hands on a Scuderia this year.
They have.
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Post #12 Fri, Jun 20, 12:46 PM
ElStiesen
Supercar Messiah - 1078

If von Saurma is so enthusiastic about a Ferrari and believes it to be at least as good as the best Porsche, you can be sure there is a lot of truth to it. Besides that, Tiff was equally thrilled.
Post #13 Fri, Jun 20, 6:00 PM
GTRfreak
Supercar Messiah - 2204

Quote from John
Thanks for the scans.

That's impressive! I hope Top Gear got their hands on a Scuderia this year.
Its on the first episode this Sunday :D


Post #14 Fri, Jun 20, 6:16 PM
FerrariAKL
King of the South - 17256

Impressive!

Well, the GT2 was faster in the German mag and the Scuderia was faster in the Italian mag. Who'd have thought?

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Post #15 Fri, Nov 5, 10:34 PM
bobmorton
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thanks

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