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Post #1 Sat, Apr 15, 10:05 AM
ajzahn
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 finally, the sport auto Supertest of the Pagani Zonda F, now published offcially:
Post #2 Sat, Apr 15, 10:20 AM
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Post #3 Sat, Apr 15, 10:30 AM
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Post #4 Sat, Apr 15, 10:43 AM
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Post #5 Sat, Apr 15, 10:45 AM
nishav
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 that car's so wicked
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Post #6 Sat, Apr 15, 11:02 AM
Raging Bull
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 Looks like the CGT still has the best time at the 'Ring, but that should all change when the CCX is tested later this year
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Post #7 Sat, Apr 15, 11:03 AM
Chillmeister
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Quote from Raging Bull
Looks like the CGT still has the best time at the 'Ring, but that should all change when the CCX is tested later this year
hmmmm, deja vu? I swear this is what people said when the CCR was announced
Post #8 Sat, Apr 15, 11:09 AM
ajzahn
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 short summary:

- the Porsche Carrear GT still is faster than the Zonda F at the Nurbring North Loop, the new sport auto ranking:

7:32 - Porsche Carrera BT
7:33m - Pagani Zonda F
7:34m - Koenigsegg CCR

- at the Hockenheim short track the Zonda F loses against the CGT and CCR due to oversteer, also the better aerodynamic of the Zonda F wasn�t any advantage there

0-200-0 km/h in 15.8 secs. same as the SLR but slower than the CGT and CCR:
14.5s - CCR
15.0s - CGT
15.8s - SLR
15.8s - Zonda F
15.9s - Zonda S, just a slight improvement

- better aerodynamic than the CGT and CCR, 1kg/25kg downforce in front/rear at 200 km/h, very good balance and a cd of 0.358 show the aerodynamic improvent also of the new rear wing comapared to the Zonda S

- 1.4g max. lateral acceleration on track with Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires, better than the CGT and CCR with only 1.35g

kerb weight: 1371 kg
power-to-weight ratio: 435PS/ton
0-100 km/h: 3.8s
0-160 km/h: 7.7s
0-200 km/h: 11.4s
Vmax: 345 km/h

36m slalom: 137 km/h,
better than the CGT with only 137 km/h but not faster than the CCR with 138 km/h

evade test, 110m: 159km/h,
faster than the CCR and CGT with 158 respectively 157 km/h

wet handling: 1:34.3m,
not faster than the Ford GT or CCR with 1:31.8m respectively 1:33.5m

verdict:
No surprise at all, but from a super sportscar at the high price range nothing else should be expected even though so much money is no guarantee.
the lastest version of the Zonda is not just good but fantastic from every point of view, an automotive sculpture, an eye cather par excellence, the high price is visible in very detail, craftmanship and enginerring at the finest.

100% functionalty is the result, 100% in 7 out of 8 disciplines ain the sport auto Supertest, higher rating than the CCR and CGT!!!
Post #9 Sat, Apr 15, 11:14 AM
ajzahn
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Quote from Raging Bull
Looks like the CGT still has the best time at the 'Ring, but that should all change when the CCX is tested later this year
event he 806bhp CCR wasn´t faster than the CGT or Zonda F at the Ring, it took Koenisgegg even two attempts to get there, so I don´t expect them to do any better
Post #10 Sat, Apr 15, 11:23 AM
Raging Bull
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Quote from ajzahn
event he 806bhp CCR wasn´t faster than the CGT or Zonda F at the Ring, it took Koenisgegg even two attempts to get there, so I don´t expect them to do any better
The CCR test was done on a cold/damp track and that cost them seconds. I predict the CCX will do at least 7:30
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Post #11 Sat, Apr 15, 11:30 AM
ScoRpFerrari
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Quote from Raging Bull
The CCR test was done on a cold/damp track and that cost them seconds. I predict the CCX will do at least 7:30
How old are you?
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Post #12 Sat, Apr 15, 12:08 PM
Ferrariformula
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 Did they ever test the Enzo?

Post #13 Sat, Apr 15, 12:16 PM
boomerkk
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 But this is not the ClubSport version.
Bizzarrini P538
Carbon fibre monocoque chassis and full carbon fibre body.
600hp. 800kg.
Post #14 Sat, Apr 15, 12:49 PM
ajzahn
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Quote from Raging Bull
The CCR test was done on a cold/damp track and that cost them seconds. I predict the CCX will do at least 7:30
the CCX with its is as much overpowered than the CCR, even when it is lighter, no advanatge at all
Post #15 Sat, Apr 15, 12:49 PM
ajzahn
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Quote from Ferrariformula
Did they ever test the Enzo?
no
Post #16 Sat, Apr 15, 2:15 PM
Guibo
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 Impressive performance to be sure. Has any car tested by Sport Auto ever been rated higher in points?

Out of curiosity, did Sport Auto mention how many miles were on the Zonda F? Because looking at results of the Zonda S shows that the older car is slightly quicker in 0-200 (by .2 second). Also, at the HRing, the F is only 1 kmh faster on the straight, even though it was 12 kmh faster in the corner leading up to the straight. Similar results are seen in the NRing speeds: at the fast section after Aremberg, the F is slower than the S by 9 kmh, even though it was 5 kmh faster at Aremberg. On the Doettinger Hoehe straight, the F is only 1 kmh faster, even though it was 3 kmh faster in the preceding corner.
Post #17 Sat, Apr 15, 3:08 PM
Sick Boy
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Quote from Raging Bull
The CCR test was done on a cold/damp track and that cost them seconds. I predict the CCX will do at least 7:30
Who cares. I'm not saying the CC8S, CCR or CCX are bad cars, but Koenigsegg should concentrate in making the CCX an amazing car to drive, and not one that can lap the damn NRing faster than a CGT.

Christian, I now you hang out in these forum, so pay attention: you are not building a racing car, get over it baldy. Make the CCX more astonishing than a Zonda F, that will impress everyone.
Post #18 Sat, Apr 15, 5:00 PM
Raging Bull
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Quote from Sick Boy
Who cares. I'm not saying the CC8S, CCR or CCX are bad cars, but Koenigsegg should concentrate in making the CCX an amazing car to drive, and not one that can lap the damn NRing faster than a CGT.

Christian, I now you hang out in these forum, so pay attention: you are not building a racing car, get over it baldy. Make the CCX more astonishing than a Zonda F, that will impress everyone.
Christian’s mentality of making his cars look and behave like race cars is one of the reasons I love them so much and I hope they never change.
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Post #19 Sat, Apr 15, 5:28 PM
Sick Boy
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 Racing car = twitchy, tricky at the limit, too damn hard, and most people won't ever extract 100% of its performance because they are not skilled racing drivers.

No need to state that, but just in order to avoid stupid replies I'd like to declare that this is just my opinion, and it is not the ultimate and undoubtful truth. Now discuss.
Post #20 Sat, Apr 15, 7:26 PM
Danno
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 if this car was slower than a ford transit van i would still own it.
Post #21 Sat, Apr 15, 8:31 PM
Jap Performance Eat Dust
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 Pagani Zonda F - The greatest supercar right now(IMHO of course).
A genuine performance landmark - Autocar's road test conclusion to Ferrari 430 Scuderia
Post #22 Sat, Apr 15, 9:41 PM
FerrariAKL
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 Great test. Impressive N-Ring results, though it was slightly slower at Hockenheim than I anticipated. Marvelous car!
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Post #23 Sat, Apr 15, 10:26 PM
ajzahn
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Quote from Guibo
Impressive performance to be sure. Has any car tested by Sport Auto ever been rated higher in points?

Out of curiosity, did Sport Auto mention how many miles were on the Zonda F? Because looking at results of the Zonda S shows that the older car is slightly quicker in 0-200 (by .2 second). Also, at the HRing, the F is only 1 kmh faster on the straight, even though it was 12 kmh faster in the corner leading up to the straight. Similar results are seen in the NRing speeds: at the fast section after Aremberg, the F is slower than the S by 9 kmh, even though it was 5 kmh faster at Aremberg. On the Doettinger Hoehe straight, the F is only 1 kmh faster, even though it was 3 kmh faster in the preceding corner.
the actual sport auto rating:

70 pts. - Zonda F
68 pts. - CCR
68 pts. - CGT
63 pts. - 996 GT2
62 pts. - CLK DTM AMG
62 pts. - SLR McLaren

Edited by ajzahn - Sat, Apr 15, 10:27 PM
Post #24 Sat, Apr 15, 10:29 PM
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Quote from nishav
that car's so wicked
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Post #25 Sat, Apr 15, 11:11 PM
ajzahn
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 maybe because it is not street-legal, sport auto conducts the Supertest onyl for road going cars
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