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Post #31 Thu, Sep 14, 11:22 AM
F1GTRUeno
Supercar Messiah - 12828

doesn't Flemke live in the UK? so his F1 would be here?
Post #32 Thu, Sep 14, 11:24 AM
hurstg01
Supercar Messiah - 1719

flemke has stated that #040 resides near the track at the Nurburgring, but you are right, it could also be over here (has been seen, believe it or not, parked up at a Mcdonalds Drive through!....)
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1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
2.


Edited by hurstg01 - Thu, Sep 14, 11:27 AM
Post #33 Thu, Sep 14, 11:34 AM
Peloton25
McLaren Freak - 4936

There are roughly 21 cars in the UK, 5 of which are still in the possession of McLaren. There are probably one or two more that are not accounted for.

Those five wiht McLaren are XP5, XP1 LM, GTR #01R, 56XPGT and GTR #20R.

Road cars known to be in the UK are XP3 (Murray), #020 (Smith), #023 (Stewart), #025 (Harrison), #040 (registered there anyway), #049 (Barazi), #059 (owner unknown) and #061 (Atkinson).

The UK boasts the largest number of GTRs converted for road use. GTRs #02R (owner unknown), #06R (Clark), #07R (owner unknown), #10R (Mason), #14R (owner unknown), #16R (Palmer) are all there.

Additionally there are two longtail GTRs still listed for sale - #24R at Taylor&Crawley and #27R at Cars International.

I don't have a breakdown of their specific locations if that is what you are looking for. It's not really my region to look after. Anyone in the UK is welcome to pick up that torch and run with it. Most of the hard part is already done for you.

>8^)
ER


Edited by Peloton25 - Thu, Sep 14, 11:44 AM
Post #34 Thu, Sep 14, 12:16 PM
Peloton25
McLaren Freak - 4936

Quote from hurstg01
#001R Le Mans winner at McLarens Technology Centre, #002R, #006R Harrods livery, #007R now looking like an LM, #010R owned by Nick Mason of Pink Floyd fame, #014R now looing like an LM as is #016R, #020 with HDF kit belonging to Tony Smith, Genesis' manager, #020R at MTC, #021R may still be in the UK, #023 Paul Stewarts HDF F1, #024R for sale at Taylor & Crawley, #025 George Harrison's (i beleive his son now has it after Georges death?), #027R for sale at Cars International near Canary Wharf, London, #040 (when not being sent round the Nurburgring), #049, #059, #061 belonging to Rowan Atkinson, XP3 and XP5, XPGT and XPLM at MTC, #021,

so that makes at least 23.....

anyone have any more?.....
Both chassis #021 and #21R are likely no longer in the UK. #21R is now certainly the FINA longtail at Highcroft Racing in the USA. #021 is currently MIA but there has been talk of a red F1 in/around Monaco as I recall, which may be #021. The last time it was seen in the UK was in the McLaren showroom in 1995, so I don't really think it should still be included on that list.

>8^)
ER

Post #35 Thu, Sep 14, 12:29 PM
Zonda Fanatic
Supercar Messiah - 2801

I've got nothing to contribute, but does anybody have any more pictures of the white F1?
"I know their are several great car companies. Porsche, Mercedes & even your precious Zonda, only if it didn't have a BMW engine. Oh well..." - Ferrari Now and Forever

It can be proud about being among the easiest and most comfortable super sportcars" - Sport Auto DE on the Zonda F

Post #36 Thu, Sep 14, 12:45 PM
hurstg01
Supercar Messiah - 1719

Quote from Zonda Fanatic
I've got nothing to contribute, but does anybody have any more pictures of the white F1?

I have 2 rules in life -
1. Don't tell everyone everything you know
2.

Post #37 Thu, Sep 14, 12:49 PM
Zonda Fanatic
Supercar Messiah - 2801

Quote from hurstg01
Love it

Thanks!

"I know their are several great car companies. Porsche, Mercedes & even your precious Zonda, only if it didn't have a BMW engine. Oh well..." - Ferrari Now and Forever

It can be proud about being among the easiest and most comfortable super sportcars" - Sport Auto DE on the Zonda F

Post #38 Thu, Sep 14, 12:58 PM
Pinin
2002 audi a8 w - 26473

Quote from Peloton25
There are roughly 21 cars in the UK, 5 of which are still in the possession of McLaren. There are probably one or two more that are not accounted for.

Those five wiht McLaren are XP5, XP1 LM, GTR #01R, 56XPGT and GTR #20R.

Road cars known to be in the UK are XP3 (Murray), #020 (Smith), #023 (Stewart), #025 (Harrison), #040 (registered there anyway), #049 (Barazi), #059 (owner unknown) and #061 (Atkinson).

The UK boasts the largest number of GTRs converted for road use. GTRs #02R (owner unknown), #06R (Clark), #07R (owner unknown), #10R (Mason), #14R (owner unknown), #16R (Palmer) are all there.

Additionally there are two longtail GTRs still listed for sale - #24R at Taylor&Crawley and #27R at Cars International.

I don't have a breakdown of their specific locations if that is what you are looking for. It's not really my region to look after. Anyone in the UK is welcome to pick up that torch and run with it. Most of the hard part is already done for you.

>8^)
ER
Wow, a lot then. Thanks!
Post #39 Thu, Sep 14, 1:00 PM
Peloton25
McLaren Freak - 4936

Quote from Zonda Fanatic
I've got nothing to contribute, but does anybody have any more pictures of the white F1?
Should be noted those shots are of #053 and that there is still another white F1 in Japan which should be #031.

>8^)
ER

Post #40 Thu, Sep 14, 1:05 PM
Zonda Fanatic
Supercar Messiah - 2801

Quote from Peloton25
Should be noted those shots are of #053 and that there is still another white F1 in Japan which should be #031.

>8^)
ER
Great, what would be the difference between the two F1's, if any? Do they have different interior colours, specifications?
"I know their are several great car companies. Porsche, Mercedes & even your precious Zonda, only if it didn't have a BMW engine. Oh well..." - Ferrari Now and Forever

It can be proud about being among the easiest and most comfortable super sportcars" - Sport Auto DE on the Zonda F

Post #41 Thu, Sep 14, 1:10 PM
FerrariF40Racer
Senior Member - 234

Quote from Peloton25
Should be noted those shots are of #053 and that there is still another white F1 in Japan which should be #031.

>8^)
ER
This one?
"We think we could get 1000bhp out of this engine, revving to 9500 or 10,000. You'd probably then be able to do 250-255mph, but it would be hard to meet the required emission standards, in order to be able to homologate such an engine."
Gordon Murray about the Mclaren F1

"The 787B was reported to have a redline around 9000rpm. However, interviews with Mazda's 787B race engineers revealed that the power of the quad-rotor increased dramatically above 9000rpm. One engineer stated that the car could develop more than 930hp with a redline around 10500rpm. They also discovered that all aspects of the engine were still in excellent condition and could have run another 24-hour race"
Wikipedia

Post #42 Thu, Sep 14, 2:10 PM
FerrariAKL
King of the South - 17256

OK, so where are the F1s with the upgraded motor located?
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Post #43 Thu, Sep 14, 2:13 PM
Peloton25
McLaren Freak - 4936

Yes, that's the one.

Differences would be the stickers - obviously - but also #031 has a FUBA-style antenna mounted on the upper engine cover. I'm sure the interiors are different, but I have yet to see any clear shots of the interior in #031 to be able to tell you what it looks like.

I do know that the driver's seat in #053 is light grey in color, almost a shade of light blue in fact. The entire seat is that color including the backrest which is normally left bare carbon on most F1 road cars. The side seats are a more traditional black.

>8^)
ER

Post #44 Thu, Sep 14, 2:14 PM
mini magic
sc.net King of Scanning - 9996

1 in Florida, 1 in Singapore
Chris

Post #45 Thu, Sep 14, 2:33 PM
Demigod555
Supercar Messia - 33975

Does anyone know the status of flemke's Mc redesign? I'd be interested in Evo or Car testing it against a regular F1
Post #46 Thu, Sep 14, 2:34 PM
Zonda Fanatic
Supercar Messiah - 2801

Quote from Peloton25
Yes, that's the one.

Differences would be the stickers - obviously - but also #031 has a FUBA-style antenna mounted on the upper engine cover. I'm sure the interiors are different, but I have yet to see any clear shots of the interior in #031 to be able to tell you what it looks like.

I do know that the driver's seat in #053 is light grey in color, almost a shade of light blue in fact. The entire seat is that color including the backrest which is normally left bare carbon on most F1 road cars. The side seats are a more traditional black.

>8^)
ER
Thanks again!
"I know their are several great car companies. Porsche, Mercedes & even your precious Zonda, only if it didn't have a BMW engine. Oh well..." - Ferrari Now and Forever

It can be proud about being among the easiest and most comfortable super sportcars" - Sport Auto DE on the Zonda F

Post #47 Thu, Sep 14, 2:35 PM
Endlesstower
Supercar Messi - 5074

I want pix of the longtail
"I'm over here in my unit, isolated and alone, eating my terrible tasting food, and I have to look over at that. That looks like the most fun I've ever seen in my entire life, and it's B.S. - excuse my language. I'm just saying that I wash and dry; I'm like a single mother. Look, we all know home-ec is a joke - no offense - it's just that everyone takes this class to get an A, and it's bullshit - and I'm sorry. I'm not putting down your profession, but it's just the way I feel. I don't want to sit here, all by myself, cooking this shitty food - no offense - and I just think that I don't need to cook tiramisu. Am I going to be a chef? No. There's three weeks left of school, give me a #$%#in' break! I'm sorry for cursing."
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Post #48 Thu, Sep 14, 2:49 PM
sox
Supercar Messiah - 12619

Peloton, I had heard that the motor in a customers F1 had been tuned to at least 720 bhp? What is the highest output for this engine in a street version?
Post #49 Thu, Sep 14, 3:43 PM
Peloton25
McLaren Freak - 4936

Actually one story that came out from a group that visited the factory claimed "one of the mechanics who showed us a "high output" V12 going into a road car that was 740HP at the crank. It was the only one they would make."

When #073 was sold through Christies the published figure was 691hp. Without hard evidence of anything more than that, I would be hesitant to verify that the 720hp or 740hp figures are real, but they aren't unlikely.

>8^)
ER

Post #50 Thu, Sep 14, 3:59 PM
Demigod555
Supercar Messia - 33975

Thanks for answering his question...
Post #51 Thu, Sep 14, 4:47 PM
Peloton25
McLaren Freak - 4936

You expect me to respond to someone with an avatar like that!?!

I haven't seen any new updates on flemke's ride. Last I heard he was still looking at getting a different set of wheels made and was contemplating painting the car a different color. I'm sure when he has something to share it will come out on PistonHeads and filter around everywhere else.

>8^)
ER



Edited by Peloton25 - Thu, Sep 14, 4:47 PM
Post #52 Thu, Sep 14, 6:57 PM
Demigod555
Supercar Messia - 33975

I thought he was having the entire suspension redone? I'm pretty sure in that one looong thread on PH that he said he was working with some bloke to improve how the car handled.

And FYI, my avatar is just happy to see you

Post #53 Thu, Sep 14, 7:09 PM
Peloton25
McLaren Freak - 4936

I'm fairly certain that all that work has been completed. I figured you were up to date on that part of the story which was why I didn't mention it. I think the most dramatic improvement will actually be seen from the wheel and tire changes - essentially fitting the stock tires from a Ferrari Enzo. Eliminating the tall sidewalls of the stock F1 tires and the flex that goes along with that will go along way to improving the car's handling. The other suspension changes are probably beneficial, but I believe that is still up for some debate among those who know enough to be a judge. I certainly don't...

>8^)
ER

Post #54 Thu, Sep 14, 10:39 PM
Demigod555
Supercar Messia - 33975

Cool thanks for the update.
Post #55 Fri, Sep 15, 2:37 PM
FerrariF40Racer
Senior Member - 234

XP1, XP2, Gordon Murray's XP3, XP4 and XP5
"We think we could get 1000bhp out of this engine, revving to 9500 or 10,000. You'd probably then be able to do 250-255mph, but it would be hard to meet the required emission standards, in order to be able to homologate such an engine."
Gordon Murray about the Mclaren F1

"The 787B was reported to have a redline around 9000rpm. However, interviews with Mazda's 787B race engineers revealed that the power of the quad-rotor increased dramatically above 9000rpm. One engineer stated that the car could develop more than 930hp with a redline around 10500rpm. They also discovered that all aspects of the engine were still in excellent condition and could have run another 24-hour race"
Wikipedia


Edited by FerrariF40Racer - Fri, Sep 15, 2:45 PM
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