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Post #1 Thu, Dec 19, 10:59 AM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 This piece of crap (American) was killed by the Ferrari 360 GT in the Grand-Am Championship 2002.

Lunga vita a Ferrari!
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
Post #2 Thu, Dec 19, 8:31 PM
khari
Supercar Messi - 6761

 LOL you have surely shown you're one of the most biased idiots on this forum. Sure, the Ferrari beat it, and seeing this is made by a small company compared to Ferrari who specializes in Formula 1 it's not exactly surprizing. Give this car a few years and it'll walk all over the Modena.

BTW sure the 360 Gt is faster than the MT900R, but I'm sure you won't be stupid enough to say the same about the road cars because the Photon is much faster than the Modena.
Post #3 Fri, Dec 20, 10:29 AM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 What kind of a stupidass point are you making, idiot?
The size of the company doesn't matter, because all I said was that it was killed by the 360 GT in the Grand-Am Championship, which means that the Ferrari is a better car, and it's a good thing that they use Formula 1 technology for their race cars.
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
Post #4 Fri, Dec 20, 7:30 PM
khari
Supercar Messi - 6761

 Ah, but you didn't say the Ferrari was a better car, all you said was that the Mosler was a POS, as you put it.

Well, Porsche is beating Ferrari, does that Make the Ferrari any less of a car? Oh, and Mosler finished second in the Bathurst 24 hour classic, ahead of Porsche.

Read up on this car, I think you may find it impressive. Just because you're biased against American cars, does not mean you should slander this when you obviously know nothing about it.
Post #5 Fri, Dec 20, 7:52 PM
khari
Supercar Messi - 6761

 Oh and here's something else you might be interested in:

Rolex 24 at Daytona

Mosler MT900R finished finished 13th, while the Ferrari 360GT managed nothing better than 25th.



Phoenix United Auto 200

Mosler Mt900R- 8th
Ferrari 360GT- 21st

I know there are other races that the Ferrari has beaten the Mosler in, but don't make it sound like the Ferrari so much better than the Mosler, because it isn't.

Oh, and you can buy a MT900R GTS class spec for only 159,000 USD, which is about the price of a regular 360 Modena.
Post #6 Sat, Dec 21, 4:37 PM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 Maybe you're the one who should do some reading: the Ferrari 360 GT won the Grand-Am championship of 2002, what are you talking about Porsche beating it?
Those two races are the only ones where the Mosler actually beat the Ferrari, but Ferrari went on to win a record of 5 consecutive races.
I'm not biased against American cars, I like American cars, but I just can't stand people saying "Why get a Modena when you can get a Mosler for half the price?". Anybody of that opinion obviously doesn't know anything about cars.
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
Post #7 Sat, Dec 21, 6:26 PM
Gunman
Supercar Messiah - 2819

 Perspective Racing's Mosler MT900R also beat the Ferrari at Homestead. The Mosler was faster than the Ferrari in almost every race, and sould have scored more wins against it, but a couple mechanical failures, and a co-driver that wasn't as fast as Joao Barbosa held them back.

I'd also like to point out that the Rollcentre Racing MT900R finished in front of the pole sitting 360GT at the 24 Hours of Bathurst too
Post #8 Sat, Dec 21, 11:45 PM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 Wait, who won the Championship?
Does everything else count? No.
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
Post #9 Sun, Dec 22, 3:02 PM
Gunman
Supercar Messiah - 2819

 I don't even think Auberlene and Wagner would agree that the 360GT "killed" the MT900R.

Rollcentre did kill the POS Ferrari 360GT at Bathurst though
Post #10 Mon, Dec 23, 2:23 PM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 Well, naturally, it was a close season, Ferrari didn't really rape the Mosler.

Can't say the same for the F2002 in Formula 1, though...
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
Post #11 Sat, Dec 28, 9:21 AM
Gamer55
Supercar Messiah - 2274

 Its not a POS and if you took the regular car the Mosler MT900 and the Ferrari 360 Modena then whos gunna get killed!!!!!!! HA HA HA!!!!!! I guess the "piece of crap" american car just smoked your Ferrari now look which car is the piece of crap over priced over rated car!?!?!?!?! And next time dont judge a car by where its made thats a very dumb and ignorant thing to due!!!
2004 Impreza WRX
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Post #12 Sat, Dec 28, 9:24 AM
Gamer55
Supercar Messiah - 2274

 And one more thing guess who won the LeMans the last 2 years in a row??? yeah thats right the American C5R and guess what it beat the Ferrari!!! And you know what the GT40's other name is FERRARI SLAYER!!! Back in 1968 the GT40 got 1st and 2nd BEATING Ferrari!!!
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-K&N Typhoon intake system with heatshield
-Invidia N1 Race catback without resonator
-Invidia V3 Downpipe with Thermo Tec heat wrap
-Omori turbo boost gauge 25psi
-STi BBS gold 17x7.5 lightweight racing wheels
-Potenza RE070 ultra high performance summer tires
-Cobb Accessport with Custom PDX tuned Stage 2 93 oct map at 16.5psi
Post #13 Sat, Dec 28, 3:12 PM
Gamer55
Supercar Messiah - 2274

 Heres a quote:

"The MT900 accelerates quicker, brakes harder, and corners sharper than a Ferrari 360 Modena"

- Car & Driver
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-K&N Typhoon intake system with heatshield
-Invidia N1 Race catback without resonator
-Invidia V3 Downpipe with Thermo Tec heat wrap
-Omori turbo boost gauge 25psi
-STi BBS gold 17x7.5 lightweight racing wheels
-Potenza RE070 ultra high performance summer tires
-Cobb Accessport with Custom PDX tuned Stage 2 93 oct map at 16.5psi
Post #14 Sat, Dec 28, 5:57 PM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 Oh, wait a second, how many LeMans did Ferrari win over the course of history? And how many did Ford win? There's a pretty big gap!!!
And how many championships did an American company win in Formula 1? Oh, wait, like NONE?
And the Ferrari 360 Modena is overrated? Try driving one, you'll soon change your mind.
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
Post #15 Sun, Dec 29, 5:30 PM
Gamer55
Supercar Messiah - 2274

 Both Ford and Ferrari have won the LeMans there for showing that they can make a car better than the competition.
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-Invidia N1 Race catback without resonator
-Invidia V3 Downpipe with Thermo Tec heat wrap
-Omori turbo boost gauge 25psi
-STi BBS gold 17x7.5 lightweight racing wheels
-Potenza RE070 ultra high performance summer tires
-Cobb Accessport with Custom PDX tuned Stage 2 93 oct map at 16.5psi
Post #16 Mon, Dec 30, 8:40 PM
Nimbokwezer
Senior Member - 485

 here's MY stupidass point:
the 360GT isn't street legal
Post #17 Tue, Dec 31, 8:37 AM
Gamer55
Supercar Messiah - 2274

 This is the F1 constructor's championship from 1968-1982:

'68 Lotus-Ford
'69 Matra-Ford
'70 Lotus-Ford
'71 Tyrrell-Ford
'72 Lotus-Ford
'73 Lotus-Ford
'74 McLaren-Ford
'75 Ferrari
'76 Ferrari
'77 Ferrari
'78 Lotus-Ford
'79 Ferrari
'80 Williams-Ford
'81 Williams-Ford
'82 Ferrari


(thanks lido)
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-Potenza RE070 ultra high performance summer tires
-Cobb Accessport with Custom PDX tuned Stage 2 93 oct map at 16.5psi
Post #18 Sun, Jan 5, 7:59 PM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 Nononononononononono, let me correct you on that: first of all, the engines are COSWORTHS, not Fords, only owned by Fords. Second, if you're trying to say Ford (Cosworth) has won more championships than Ferrari you're wrong, because a car is made up of more than just an engine, so the credit really goes to Lotus, McLaren, Tyrell, and Matra, not Ford.
Third, I may be wrong by I was under the impression that Williams used twin-turbo Honda engines in 80 and 81, not Cosworths.
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
Post #19 Mon, Jan 13, 4:38 PM
HoldenV8
New Member - 36

 Correct me if I am wrong here but I belive that Williams didn't start using Honda turbo's until late 1983.

Oh and just to add a twist to the Mosler v Ferrari thing as it relates to the Bathurst 24hrs.....the Mosler did finish 2nd (22 Laps behind the Monaro) but both in the race and qualifying it was some 5 seconds slower than the Ferrari. But the ferrari blew 2 engines in the race and the Mosler still managed to finish 2nd after having no clutch for the last 12 or 13 hours of the event.
Post #20 Fri, Jan 17, 6:34 PM
Gunman
Supercar Messiah - 2819

 Shorty's plan for the race was to take it easy on the car. It was his first time at the mountian, and only their third outing with the car. I have a feeling he will use the same strategy at the 24 Hours of Daytona.
Post #21 Tue, Jan 21, 9:03 PM
Vette1
Supercar Messiah - 1684

 Gallucci

You just called this car a "POS", I'm pretty sure you know what that stands for. Yet you havn't shown anything that shows that this car is in fact a POS!

For the length of time Mosler has been around they have done pretty well in racing, and aside from that why don't you compare the street legal production Mosler to a street legal production 360?

The Mosler wins in pretty much everything over the 360, if I'm wrong on that please tell me where the hell his the 360 better?

Better yet why don't you just tell my why the Mosler is a POS?
Post #22 Fri, Feb 7, 7:28 PM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 Yes, I know the Mosler is not a POS, it is a great car (for an American car, JK).
I was merely comparing the racing Mosler to the racing 360 GT, and since the Ferrari won the championship, I guess it is a better car.
The street Mosler is obviously better than the street 360, but that's because they are built with different phylosphies.
In racing, however, there is only one phylosophy: speed.
The Mosler is an overall great car.
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
Post #23 Sat, Feb 8, 7:20 PM
Gunman
Supercar Messiah - 2819

 Last year the MT900R had more speed than the 360GT, but it also had more problems (dang Corvette parts...). This year the MT900R is bumped up to GTS, and the 360GT stays in GT, so no in-class racing...I'm not even sure any 360GT's will be running the full Grand Am series this year.
Post #24 Fri, Feb 14, 12:28 PM
YSSMAN
Senior Member - 457

 360 GT? Ha....I doubt it....but I dont believe it isnt possible...those Ferrari racecars are pretty fast, but not fast enought. However I do belive that street versions of each of be a pittiful race. It wouldnt even be close. The stock Vette I believe is actually faster than the 360....and at well under 1/4 the price!
OHV vs OHC? I'll stick with my good ol small-block OHV Chevy engines. They make more torque, & cost/weigh less. Long live the gen-IV small-block!
Post #25 Wed, Feb 26, 10:50 AM
Gallucci
Supercar Messiah - 1385

 OK, you need to do some reading before you start posting, new member.

1. What you said about the stock Vette being faster than the 360 is the funniest thing I've ever read.

2. The street versions of both are amazing cars.

3. The Ferrari 360 GT DID BEAT THE MOSLER IN THE 2002 CHAMP.

4. Ferrari racecars are fast, period.

5. You are an idiot.
"Die Proletarien haben nichts in ihr zu verlieren als ihre Ketten. Sie haben eine Welt zu gewinnen". - Karl Marx, 1848.
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