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Post #1 Thu, Jul 10, 11:12 PM
Mustang360R
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 What do you think would win on a straigh away and a track?
Post #2 Mon, Jul 14, 1:10 AM
LaMagra2002
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 That is what I was just thinking of at the moment!
Saleen has 600 bhp and has 1150 kg weight!
Mc Laren F1 GTR 636 bhp and has 1120 kg weight!
It would be very close!And it is obvious that they have almost the same styling!Thats very interesting!
But the F1 GTR would win!
Post #3 Thu, Jul 24, 1:22 PM
Gearheads4ever
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 The Saleen S7R would win b/c Road & Track said that the Saleen S7, not even the S7R, was the second fastest car they ever tested. The Enzo was first. The F1 was in 5th. Thus in any race, it would be close but the S7R should statistically win.
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Post #4 Sat, Jul 26, 12:55 PM
VMIFerrari
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 Hmmm. And why do you suppose the Saleen S7 looks so similar to the McLaren??? Could it be that Steve Saleen took a lot of the F1's styling cues to aid in the developement of his own car? I think he should have made something more unique; the McLaren and the Saleen are just too similar.
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Post #5 Mon, Jul 28, 9:34 AM
firestarter
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 You are comparing a road going race car to super road car. Now compare both road going race cars Mclaren F1 LM vs Saleen S7R who would win. hummm thats a hard one. LM would rape it.
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Post #6 Thu, Aug 14, 8:44 PM
MantronixFX
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 The Saleen's body style was influenced by a wind tunnel (motortrend) Second, the styling of most exotic/supercars have similar styling ques because that type of styling is best suited for supercars. Also, the Saleen produces more downforce than any other car in the market, it can literally be driven upside down because it creates so much downforce. Dont you think the same would be true of the Mclaren if the styling cues were the same? Just something to think about. So if you think about it, the original styling ques for supercars, can argueably be taken from the Ford GT40
Post #7 Tue, Aug 19, 11:55 AM
firestarter
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 I would think the Enzo produces more downforce than the S7.
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Post #8 Wed, Aug 20, 5:19 AM
slacker24seven
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 how can you say that? thats just conjecture, and besides the S7 has a big rear wing, the enzo doesnt. with road cars downforce isnt that much of an issue, its more a question of minimising lift while keeping drag to a minimum. because the speeds involved with road cars are small when compared with proper racing cars the speed of the air moving over the body would not generate any noticeable downforce; road cars usually rely on sculpting the underbody.
Post #9 Wed, Aug 20, 6:48 PM
firestarter
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 But you are talking about the S7R; I was talking about the S7 which does not have a huge wing on it. And the Enzo is no Ford Taurus underneath or on the outside. It relies mostly on air flow under the car helped by its huge rear diffuser but also has a rear wing and front radiator vents up front. The enzo has far better aerodynamics at the front than the S7. And should be more stable on the track.
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Post #10 Mon, Sep 22, 6:37 PM
Big hand
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 of course McLaren F1
Saleen can never catch up with McLaren
Post #11 Tue, Sep 23, 1:12 PM
slacker24seven
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 how would the S7 have worse aerodynamics? if it does then the difference is negligible. cars like this and the F1 were designed to be as aerodynamic as possible, thats why they look quite similar. their common basic shape is designed to disturb the air as much as possible; though the enzo is younger there is probably only a very small difference in their drag co-efficients. the same goes for downforce, for grip road cars rely primarily on mechanical grip and the suction from the underbody. essential the to cars should be quite similar, but the enzo is younger so the natural progression in technology should favour it.
Post #12 Thu, Sep 25, 10:31 AM
failchawi
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 the main question was that which one would win on a races track, i think the cars are so similar in performance that it would depend on the driver
Post #13 Wed, Oct 1, 1:37 PM
slacker24seven
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 a cars performance on the track is often very different to its statistics; in recent top gear and autocar track tests the lotus elise (0-60 in 5.2s and 125mph top speed) embarassed pretty much every supercar in the group upto and including the murcielago. this is because of its awesome handling and light wieght.

please dont challenge the legitimacy of what i just said, i wasnt haivng a dig at any cars and it was just an example.i was merely stating that cars are often more than than just the numbers they can produce in a straight line.
Post #14 Thu, Oct 2, 6:09 PM
firestarter
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 Do you think the Enzo is shaped to be super aerodynamic? then why is it drag limited to 217mph+ -. The Enzo is the closest thing to a f1 racer. Using the best technology that Saleen has never even heard of. And why do you think the Enzo is designed the way it is? for looks not quite its all designed to help it perform the best on the track. True alot of the downforce is done by its huge rear diffusor but its body is also gone through hours and hours of wind tunel designing.
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Post #15 Sat, Oct 4, 2:25 PM
slacker24seven
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 thats basically what i just said, the enzo will have progressed more but the difference in drag co-efficients probably isnt that big. that said though, the new mclaren mercedes SLR is supposed to have more advanced aerodynamics than even their F1 car. according to mclaren that is though... still quite impressive. and gorgeous too.
Post #16 Tue, Oct 7, 12:15 PM
GTOownzz
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 the F1 would rape both the enzo and S7R. u kno why? considering the fact that there hasnt been an actual race between the three that ive head of u can only go on statistics,anyway back to the point,F1 has better acceleration than both and a higher top speed by 20+ mph

McLaren F1 0-60 3.2 secs top speed of 240 mph
Ferrari Enzo 0-60 3.3 secs top speed of 217 mph
Saleen S7 0-60 3.3 secs top speed of 223
(not S7R i havent statistics on the R)
so based on statistics the enzo would come in last, hmm interesting...


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Post #17 Wed, Oct 8, 7:04 PM
firestarter
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 Well that time of the Saleen done by road and track or who ever made it is bull. To have 550hp with a engine which has a huge flat spot in to get a better time than the Enzo with 660hp weights like 300lbs more but with the semi auto tranny. In a stright line the F1 would win but on the tack the enzo would win.
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Post #18 Tue, Oct 14, 5:19 PM
1970Chevelle454LS7
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 how are the stats bull
those are the numbers they got
numbers don't lie
the S7 some areas does come in a little bit behind the enzo and a little bit more behind the McLaren
in other areas the S7 beats them both
they are all awesome though
and when are you ever going to drive any of them
so how much does it really matter
Post #19 Tue, Oct 14, 5:19 PM
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Post #20 Tue, Oct 14, 5:23 PM
firestarter
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Post #21 Fri, Oct 31, 4:34 PM
Renaultking
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 McLaren, McLaren, McLaren!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Of course, It's a race car, idiots!!!!!!
Post #22 Sun, Nov 2, 10:07 AM
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Post #23 Mon, Nov 10, 9:52 AM
screamer189
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 the saleen s7r will stomp a squathole in anything that moves on the ground. you can't touch it.
Post #24 Sun, Nov 16, 6:13 PM
firestarter
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 I like it too. But it gets its butt kicked against the C5R Corvettes and the prodrive Ferarris
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Post #25 Wed, Aug 18, 7:42 AM
ataman91
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 OOKKK its obvious that the McLaren wins but heres a better question
Who would win enzo saleen or koenigsegg

i think it would be
1. enzo
2. koenigsegg
3. saleen
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