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Post #1 Wed, Apr 2, 12:19 AM |
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Logical Heretic
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Is this Americas only supercar? where does McLaren come from? Oh yeah I forgot the Ford GT40 is about to be released and that will make 2 supercars under Americas belt.
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Post #2 Wed, Apr 2, 7:08 PM |
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Lamborghini4evr
New Member - 1
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The Ford GT-40 is nice and all but most U.S. cars with power are more of muscle cars, supercars are usually fairly expensive, limited production etc. Cars like the Viper and Corvette are more brutish and in the case of the viper.... take a look at its stock equipment especially ccs'(creature comforts),but the U.S. has the Saleen S7s and one of the most unheard of car companys-Vector which has been relatively silent for a bit now ever since thier M-12 was released at I think in 1996 and the W-8 is one of the rarest collectors cars only 22 made and Mclaren's lowest production was thier F1 GT longtail only 3 made, and Mclaren is made in the UK. im out of things to say except ...umm ........ er.. naw im out.
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Post #3 Tue, Apr 8, 4:51 PM |
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TacticalEspionage
Member - 253
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No.
S7, WX3, Weigert Twin Turbo, M12, Viper, Corvette Z06(could be considered a supercar), GT, and more, but can't think of them.
There are winners and then there are lossers. I am a winner.
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Post #4 Wed, May 7, 8:03 PM |
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mclarenkills
New Member - 8
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Get the facts straight. The McLaren is European. A completely different continent than the U.S. in NORTH AMERICA. And it isn't the GT-40, for some reason ford is aloud to call it that. It will be called the GT Concept, that is if you are refering to the yellow one with a black stripe. If you are refering to the white ford with the triangle in the back with a raising spoiler, thats the GT-90. Learn about cars before you TRY to talk about them intelligently. The gt-40 is the car below that is blue with the double white stripe.
Don't you just love it when a European car watches a rice-rocket fall back not little by little but far by far. Go ahead and put NOS in a rice-rocket and it beats other rice-rockets. But put NOS in a european car or muscle car, and the rice-rocet with NOS get left in the rear-view mirror, which is by the way the best view of a rice-rocket.
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Post #5 Thu, May 15, 6:50 AM |
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Downwithjaps1
New Member - 23
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wow that's a nice signature dude. It's true adding the same $$$ amount to an american as a jap is an automatic win over the P.O.S. jap. Finally someone else is saying it too. Oh and by the way Mcclaren's r Euro That dude needs to hit the books if he is going to talk with enthusiasts.......
USA all the way! What's up with having to put $50,000 into a honda to make it run with a stock 'stang R U weak?
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Post #6 Fri, May 16, 10:04 PM |
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SSwannabe
Member - 264
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Have you ever heard of mosler??? Hennessy, lingenfelter, Callaway??? Funny cars that run the quarter a little over 4 seconds? C5-R? Viper GTS-R? Roush even? Boss? Just because you're stupid doesn't mean America doesn't make supercars.
http://www.musclecarclub.com/humor/humor-import.shtml
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Post #7 Sat, May 24, 12:41 PM |
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BMW IS KING
Member - 72
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this car is nuts
please dont say that mercedes makes good cars
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Post #8 Tue, Jun 3, 2:09 AM |
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WantASupercar
Supercar Messiah - 3055
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funny cars, u must be desperate for examples if u include them. y not say the F2003-GA is the best euro car u fool. to be classified as a supercar the car needs a presence that the z06 lacks, and lingenfelter et al are tuned cars, not supercars. the mosler is a good example of an american supercar though, along with the S7, and it will be called the GT40 - the Gt concept was it's name when it existed as a concept. it will become a production car under the Gt40 name.
Auto's are ridiculous, if u can't change your own gears, you can't drive!
There is a replacement for displacement - it's called engineering skill!
Worlds BIGGEST Pagani Fanboy!
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Post #9 Thu, Jun 19, 9:20 PM |
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WantASupercar
Supercar Messiah - 3055
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i was wrong about name, it will actually be called the GT, as ford sold the name, and it will cost 10,000,000 to get it back. my bad.
Auto's are ridiculous, if u can't change your own gears, you can't drive!
There is a replacement for displacement - it's called engineering skill!
Worlds BIGGEST Pagani Fanboy!
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Post #10 Tue, Jun 24, 1:10 PM |
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IcE_bLëU
Supercar Guru - 1333
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Who they sold it to?
www.IcE_bLëU.tk
Oo__oO--co-founder of the RED EMBLEM clan--Oo__oO
4 Rock On / I Love You Avtar mishaps and counting.
Topic: US Warns Of New 911-Style Plane Attacks In The Works.
Reply: An attack from a Plane, that is styled like a new Porsche?-Barra
!!~I LOVE BETH~!!
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Post #11 Thu, Jun 26, 4:42 PM |
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Isaias4u2
New Member - 35
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Is anybody here going to tell me that the USA doesnt have any super cars maybe you will like to take a good look at these cars and then them me if they aint super!!
Saleen S7R, Ford Focus RS WRC, 2003 ford GT, 2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1, 2001 Chevrolet Corvette C5R, Dodge Viper GTS-R, Mustang Cobra R.
ONLY THING I WANT IN THIS LIFE IS A 2002 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1!!!
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10 cars that I THINK are good( not in order):2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1, 2001 Chevrolet Corvette C5R, Mazda RX-7 & RX-8, Dodge Viper GTS-R, Mustang Cobra R, Saleen S7R, 2002 Mercury Cougar, Ford Focus RS WRC, Toyota Supra TT, 2005 ford GT-40 GT.
10 cars that I think are bad: Honda Civic Si, Honda S2000, Mitsubishi Lancer Evoution VII WRC2, Nissan Sylvia, Acura Integra-R, Honda NSX-R, Toyota Matrix, Toyota Celica GT-S, Toyota Scion, Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder.
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LONG LIVE AMERICAN MUSCLE!!!!
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Post #12 Sun, Jun 29, 6:22 PM |
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khari
Supercar Messi - 6761
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Why can't a tuner also be a supercar? What's wrong with Funny cars?
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Post #13 Tue, Jul 1, 2:47 PM |
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slacker24seven
Member - 152
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Im not a particurlarly big fan of american cars but its stupid to pressume that amercans dont make supercars... and the focus WRC was engineered in Britain by the Ford World rally team (i think).
and please stop going on about tuned vettes and vipers, they arent stock so dont count.
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Post #14 Thu, Jul 10, 7:33 AM |
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TheSkunkBurner
Supercar Guru - 1536
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Gotta love Aprilias.
I was too lazy to find a better sig.
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Post #15 Thu, Jul 10, 11:04 PM |
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Mustang360R
Senior Member - 400
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Ok its "GT" not "GT Concept"
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Post #16 Mon, Jul 14, 9:18 AM |
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CorvettepowerZ06
New Member - 43
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HAS EVERYBODY FORGOTTEN ABOUT PANOZ?THER`E AMERICAN TOO!AND WHAT ABOUT THE CALLAWAY SLEDGEHAMMER CORVETTE?THIS IS NOT AMERICA`S ONLY SUPERCAR!
Callaway Corvettes rule!And poopy is stupid!
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Post #17 Mon, Jul 14, 4:52 PM |
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1963CorvetteZ06
New Member - 30
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If you consider the viper a supercar then you have to consider the vette one also. They are both in the same class performance wise
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Post #18 Sat, Jul 26, 9:23 PM |
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Big hand
Member - 258
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most of the american cars are bullshit
yea, american cars got the power with big engines... dont think its amazing
u said Honda S200 sucks? its only a 2.0 engine. if u made it a 5.0 engine, sure it WILL beat your dream car, chevrolet camero something(forgot the name)
anyone think i am not rite, REPLY please~~~
###Viper is not american car
its designed by an european designer
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Post #19 Tue, Jul 29, 1:40 PM |
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Big hand
Member - 258
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the nissan or toyota 5.7L u were talkin about, i never heard of that
but corvette is the best car of chevrolet, isnt it?
however, i dont think the sedan u talked about is the best of nissan or toyota
if they really tried to make it the best, i really dont it would have 330-350hp only
thats wat i think, if i am not rite
u r welcome to correct my mistake(s)
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Post #20 Wed, Aug 6, 12:49 PM |
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Chuck1982
Member - 54
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Actually you can buy a road going version of the C5R from General Motors for about $400 000. It's not a production car, but then again neither are a lot of the European so-called production cars. They are known as special order cars. This means you have to pay for it before they build it. Do people actually think they can just go to London with $1 million and just buy a Maclaren F1 off the showroom floor? Ya right! I bet it would take months even over a year before you could have gotten a brand new one when the '97 model came out. This also goes for other so-called production cars like the Dauer 962 LM or Ferrari Enzo. The definition of a production car means that a manufacturer has to have planned a certain number of cars to be produced and sold on the open market. Special order cars such as the really high priced exotics and other supercars do not fit this description.
FAVORITE MUSCLE CARS:
1969 Yenko Camaro with the 427
1968 Corvette L88 with the 560 hp 427
FAVORITE SPORTS CARS:
2004 Corvette Z06
1985 Ferrari Testarossa
FAVORITE SUPERCARS:
1997 Maclaren F1
1991 Ferrari F40
Favorite Modified Cars:
2003 Lingenfelter Corvette 427 TT
1985 Ferrari Koenig Competition Evolution
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Post #21 Wed, Aug 6, 1:16 PM |
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Chuck1982
Member - 54
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If you knew the difference between DOHC and OHV, and horsepower and torque you would realize that your ideology is completely flawed. I'm not sure if I should even bother with this, but here it goes in a nut shell: DOHC engines usually have much less displacement because of the overhead configuration of the heads over the cylinders allows them to have similar horsepower. However, this means that the engine needs to have much higher rpms in order to achieve the same horsepower while having a narrower powerband. For instance, the S2000 with the 2.0 L DOHC I4 has to rev at 7500 rpm before it really gets at lot of power, but never gets that much torque. Torque is a measurement of how much work the engine can accomplish at one time. Another effect is that the engine heats up to higher temperatures. Therefore, they need make the blocks out of heavier metals than OHV. So while the displacement of the engine is smaller, the actual weight and physical dimensions can be comparable. For instance a 3.5 L DOHC could weigh the same as a 5.7 L OHV. A 5.0L DOHC engine would not fit in the S2000 unless maybe they modified the hood, took out the A/C, took out the heater, and put the battery in the trunk. Even if it did, the car would be completely unbalanced and have to much weight on the front end. It wouldn't perform well at all.
FAVORITE MUSCLE CARS:
1969 Yenko Camaro with the 427
1968 Corvette L88 with the 560 hp 427
FAVORITE SPORTS CARS:
2004 Corvette Z06
1985 Ferrari Testarossa
FAVORITE SUPERCARS:
1997 Maclaren F1
1991 Ferrari F40
Favorite Modified Cars:
2003 Lingenfelter Corvette 427 TT
1985 Ferrari Koenig Competition Evolution
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Post #22 Mon, Aug 11, 3:10 PM |
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slacker24seven
Member - 152
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are panoz truely american? i dont know for sure because they were started by an irishman, danny panoz. and the sledgehammer vette, well i guess that depends on your definition of a supercar, as it is not a production veichle. and the S7 is more of an all round sports car, the sledgehammer vette is more of a straight line beast.
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Post #23 Thu, Aug 14, 8:49 PM |
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MantronixFX
Supercar Guru - 633
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The name was never sold to anyone, Ford never put a copyright on the name, so someone got smart and put a copyright on the name. I think Ford offered the person a large sum of cash including the first Ford GT to hit production. Apparently the guy didnt go for it, which is why the car is called the Ford GT, and not the Ford GT40
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Post #24 Thu, Aug 14, 9:03 PM |
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MantronixFX
Supercar Guru - 633
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Most of those cars mentioned are not production cars. As defined supercars are massed produced. So cars like the sledgehammer, ZL1 etc are not supercars by definition. The street version of the exotic cars must pass NHTSA crash testing, OBD-II emissions, and must be sold to the public as street legal machines, in order for the racing version to qualify as legal to race. Im sure there is more to it than that, but thats the general aspect of it. As far as American exotics: The Vector, currently owned by Lamborghini sporting the italian V12 engine producing around 600HP, but it used to produce close to 1200HP using a Corvette V8 engine with Garrett twin turbos before lamborghini purchased the company. The Panoz, is considered American, because it is backed up by Ford, and uses the Mustang Cobra engine. Saleen S7 is another American exotic. Ford GT. Mosler MT900s, which uses a corvette engine.
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Post #25 Sat, Aug 16, 1:41 PM |
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slacker24seven
Member - 152
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hey thanks for clearing both of those points up for me!
where i live, here in the UK tuned cars like that arent exactly commonplace, or at least not ones tuned primarily for straight line speed anyway, lightwieght cars which are more focused on handling are more popular like lotuses, nobles and caterhams.
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