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Post #1 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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24HeuresDuMans
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Could anyone tell me... because thats new for me..
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Post #2 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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HotBoxer
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Vanos is a cam timing system, and I beleive but I'm not totally sure that double vanos just means they are using vanos on a V configuration motor, like the new 4.4 V8 that is in the 745i.
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Post #3 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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24HeuresDuMans
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thanks!... would you happen to know who developed it?
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Post #4 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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Veraxial
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Double Vanos is similar to the VTEC system developed by Honda. It optimizes cam timing to ensure maximum performance and efficient fuel economy anywhere on the rev range. Now as you might already know, cam timing can operate on either the intake or exhaust. The VANOS system works soley on intake to allow the engine to breath better. The Double VANOS system operates on both intake and exhaust and functions to improve low-end torque and top-end horsepower. So this is a short explanation on the VANOS system that BMW uses on their engines. I believe that it was developed in house, but I'm not too sure.
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Post #5 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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HotBoxer
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V-tech is actually a variable valve lift system, but they also have VTC which controls timing. Vanos controls timing, valvetronic controls lift, and the Variable intake manifold increases and decreases the length of the intake to optimize power and efficiency. The new 4.4 V8 in the 745i, uses all of these systems which does away with the throttle. How trick is that?
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Post #6 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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Mofomenator
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Double Vanos, 6 individual throttle butterflies and all on the 6.
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Post #7 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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bmwmpower24
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it allows all m cars to steplessly choose valve timings for both the intake and exhaust cams. it is electronically controlled in response to engine speed, load and tempature. it maximizes engine response, efficiency, and emmision control. more low and medium range torque.
taken from the bmw m brochure
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Post #8 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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Lauda
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In regards to Hot Boxers first comment, this engine has an inline 6 THAT IS NOT A V CONFIGURATION ENGINE he was askin about the double vanos on this car no offence to Hot Boxer
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Post #9 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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24HeuresDuMans
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You guys seem to know a lot, mmm let's see could anyone say what does vanos mean or where did they got the name from???
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Post #10 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM |
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HotBoxer
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Quote from Lauda In regards to Hot Boxers first comment, this engine has an inline 6 THAT IS NOT A V CONFIGURATION ENGINE he was askin about the double vanos on this car no offence to Hot Boxer
I know this is not a V motor, I totally forgot that this car had double vanos, so thats why I made that statment. If I had remembered this car had double vanos it probably would have jogged my memory as to what double vanos meant, which I did know but admitadley totaly sliped my mind.
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Post #11 Sat, Aug 10, 3:59 AM |
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xustfosorcim
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VANOS is constant, VTEC isn't
VANOS means something reallllllly weird
Variable something or rather works really good too
it improves the low range torque and high range horsepower
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Post #12 Sun, Aug 11, 3:59 PM |
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blaze4eva
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V-tec is constant. it optimizes cam profiles on one cam for high end ad low end horsepower. v-tec does in fact boost low end power contrary to belief the reason honda's cars that utilize v-tec are so low is because of their engine size.
VANOS refers to an entire system including cam timing, individual throttle modulation, and VGI manifold (variable geometry intake). variable geometry, to make it simple is attached to the intake manifold and effecitvely uses a series of butterfly valves to optimize low end torque and high end power at the same time. it simulates 2 valve/cylinder breathing in the low end (and if any of you guys know a 2 valve is better for low end breathing than a 4 valve equivalent). because m3's rev high they still wnt the low end power therefore htey utilize this system of breathing through one large hole (due to intake charge velocities) in low rpm and then use the multi-valve system for upper end horsepower.
the new VANOS system on the 7 series is unlike more traditional VGI's as it is able to infinitely variate the intake runner length (i'm not sure how this really works.) VGI is also used in civics, the focus, porsches, DOHC mustangs, but to different degrees. some use different steps...blah blah blah.
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