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Post #1 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
foggy
New Member - 16

 Visit hartge.de, look at the new h50, imagine taking a seat. then you will know why anyone who appreciates race cars more than limos would spend his money on the new hartge.
Forget the old model it's not unique.
Post #2 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
S4 my M5
New Member - 5

 There's the Hartge H50, which is a 3-series coupe with the M5 engine. I don't understand why someone would not like the sedan over the coupe. It's like porsche boxster and the 911. At one time the 911 customers were complaining that the boxster which is an entry level porsche look almost identical to a legend. People who spent over 100k on a sports car wanted it to be known and not to be confused for an entry level car. Same rule of thought. Ultimately I think the M5 is the way to go!
Post #3 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
Ferox D
Supercar Guru - 2033

 Well, this car is much more raw. Better power to weight ratio, no electronic traction or stability control. Much more sporting period. This is even more exclusive than the M5 too. I'd much rather have this, although no as shown in the pic above, than the M5 unless I really needed the space and extra doors.
Warning, people in black S4's are known to beat people driving white Accord's who, for some reason, think they want a peice.
Post #4 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
PRO
Supercar Guru - 687
Quote from Ferox D
Well, this car is much more raw. Better power to weight ratio, no electronic traction or stability control. Much more sporting period. This is even more exclusive than the M5 too. I'd much rather have this, although no as shown in the pic above, than the M5 unless I really needed the space and extra doors.


so true, but I'd take the M5 also anyday...
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Post #5 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
nurburgring
New Member - 31
Quote from S4 my M5
There's the Hartge H50, which is a 3-series coupe with the M5 engine. I don't understand why someone would not like the sedan over the coupe. It's like porsche boxster and the 911. At one time the 911 customers were complaining that the boxster which is an entry level porsche look almost identical to a legend. People who spent over 100k on a sports car wanted it to be known and not to be confused for an entry level car. Same rule of thought. Ultimately I think the M5 is the way to go!


Yeah, if your priorities are things other than performance.
The E46 weighs around 3450 lbs which is about 500lbs lighter than the E39's 3950 lbs (approx). Give or take after stripping the heavy luxuries. So given the relative weight penalty of the M5, plus the stealth-factor of the smaller Hartge... I would take the Hartge over the M5.
The numbers tell the story: 4.6 seconds 0-60 Hartge, 4.8 for the M5.
The M5 is like a Hartge with two big guys sitting in the back seats, messing up your acceleration, braking, cornering. But the real value in the Hartge is the stealth factor-- surprising the crap out of Mr. M3 or doctor M5 when you leave em behind.
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Post #6 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
Ferox D
Supercar Guru - 2033
Quote from nurburgring
Quote from S4 my M5
There's the Hartge H50, which is a 3-series coupe with the M5 engine. I don't understand why someone would not like the sedan over the coupe. It's like porsche boxster and the 911. At one time the 911 customers were complaining that the boxster which is an entry level porsche look almost identical to a legend. People who spent over 100k on a sports car wanted it to be known and not to be confused for an entry level car. Same rule of thought. Ultimately I think the M5 is the way to go!


Yeah, if your priorities are things other than performance.
The E46 weighs around 3450 lbs which is about 500lbs lighter than the E39's 3950 lbs (approx). Give or take after stripping the heavy luxuries. So given the relative weight penalty of the M5, plus the stealth-factor of the smaller Hartge... I would take the Hartge over the M5.
The numbers tell the story: 4.6 seconds 0-60 Hartge, 4.8 for the M5.
The M5 is like a Hartge with two big guys sitting in the back seats, messing up your acceleration, braking, cornering. But the real value in the Hartge is the stealth factor-- surprising the crap out of Mr. M3 or doctor M5 when you leave em behind.


And on top of the weight advantage the Hartge has, it also has some extra power. According to the Hartge site, if I remember correctly, the H50 is tuned to 460hp!
Warning, people in black S4's are known to beat people driving white Accord's who, for some reason, think they want a peice.
Post #7 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
westcoasthonda
Member - 321

 This car is all about pure performance. If you want the faster car, the Hartge is the way to go. No disrespect to the M5 though. If you want a really really really fast car that can seat 5 adults comfortably and still wanna smoke the majority of the cars out on the streets, then the M5 would be the one to go for.
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Post #8 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
400+kw ute
New Member - 14

 you say why not get the m5
well why not get this
this is faster
so i go with this as this has the speed
all yous gots to do is put a supercharger on it
Post #9 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
civicsux
New Member - 3

 I have nothing against the m5 but when you compare it to this car, i would take this one any day. Think about how many m5's there are in the states, it may not be every day that you see one but there sure are more than there are these. I'd rather have this car just for the fact that the other day i was cruising down the interstate and saw a gorgeous m5. I pulled up to see if it wanted to play, even though i new it would beat me i still wanted to see it perform. I look over and look at who's behind the wheel. Much to my surprise, it was an old lady who looked like she had grandkids even. I dont want to drive a car that some grandmother is gonna be using as a taxi and a playground. Those cars are meant to perform and thats what it needs to be used for.
Post #10 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
Meradur
Member - 387

 I'll take mine in Triple Black, F1 shifter, blue and black leather, and M double spoke rims..... wait a minute I'm only dreaming. (sigh).
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Post #11 Fri, Aug 9, 9:43 PM
BugattiEB110SS
Supercar Messi - 1017

 I would take this purely because of the sport issue but the average person that can afford this car can probably easily afford the M5 also and I'm willing to bet they have both
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