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Post #1 Tue, Jan 24, 4:52 PM |
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canasn
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wow....this is a long forum....anywho......I read the title, and well....15 pages is long....so my two cent's worth. I doubt handling is too good.
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Post #2 Sun, Feb 19, 7:41 AM |
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RalphCM
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That wasn't the best that kleemann and renntech had to offer..
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Post #3 Sun, Apr 9, 2:07 AM |
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Every Mn
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That last sentance, you do realize it makes you like like an ignorant, snobbish a-hole, right?
Seriously, Viper's have been praised time & again for the incredible performance. And you think one with a fully-adjustable, independant coilover suspension will have sucky handling? WHat do you drive to work everday? Cause if a Viper has bad handling to you, I'd wonder what you think about the handling of your Ford Focus...
I honestly doubt any of you have even been in a car pulling even .9 on a skidpad or slaloming at 70mph. I'm probably correct in my assumptions, in which case you would all have absolutely no idea what you were talking about!
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Post #4 Fri, Apr 21, 10:40 AM |
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Euro Trash
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just try to put that power down on the road with the vipers crap chassis
who cares, he's not a house hold name in north america like he is in the 3rd world, where people care about F1. I bet most of my friends wouldn't know who the #$%# he is - TimmyMcOwnsYou on Ayrton Senna
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Post #5 Fri, Apr 21, 9:06 PM |
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gstg
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This is a simlar post to another thread I just read ... but really belongs here.
I'm not quite sure where people are coming from saying the Viper handles badly ....
The World Drift Champion is currently Samuel Hubinette using .... wait for it ... A Dodge Viper. This car won all the ROAD COURSE TESTS. Which are all about handing, not HP and Top Speed.
The challange I see here is that some people just don't like American cars or the Viper in general. But the challange is that they have put up and won almost every class division that exists in every racing veneue they could enter.
I don't get how that would make it NOT be one of the best handling cars out there. If anything I'd like to see how well some of these other PROTO-Type cars handle both on the real world race courses as well as the more important REAL WORLD that most people live in.
Personally I think the Turbo-Porsche is the best all around sports car in the world, but when it comes to racing and putting a race car on the road, the Viper simply is one of the best. It's not the most comfortable driver in the world, but it certainly handles well.
Euro? .. You say it can't put the power down because of the Chassis? haha ... what part of WIN EVERY racing division don't you get? Of course it puts the power down. That's how it makes such fast times both on the track AND the drag strip ...haha
I had to add this comment made by Road & Track from their last Sports car tests regarding the Chassis ...
"The chassis is communicative, with the suspension system upper-and-lower A-arms at both front and rear providing exceptional mid-turn balance. The massive Michelins stick to the pavement like super glue. Get everything right through a corner, and the Viper will easily be the first one through. It registered an amazing 1.02g around the skidpad."
Once again not me .. these are the experts in evaluating cars.
Edited by gstg - Sat, Apr 22, 8:54 AM
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Post #6 Mon, May 8, 10:55 AM |
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terraflata
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Quote from gstg
This is a simlar post to another thread I just read ... but really belongs here.
I'm not quite sure where people are coming from saying the Viper handles badly ....
The World Drift Champion is currently Samuel Hubinette using .... wait for it ... A Dodge Viper. This car won all the ROAD COURSE TESTS. Which are all about handing, not HP and Top Speed.
The challange I see here is that some people just don't like American cars or the Viper in general. But the challange is that they have put up and won almost every class division that exists in every racing veneue they could enter.
I don't get how that would make it NOT be one of the best handling cars out there. If anything I'd like to see how well some of these other PROTO-Type cars handle both on the real world race courses as well as the more important REAL WORLD that most people live in.
Personally I think the Turbo-Porsche is the best all around sports car in the world, but when it comes to racing and putting a race car on the road, the Viper simply is one of the best. It's not the most comfortable driver in the world, but it certainly handles well.
Euro? .. You say it can't put the power down because of the Chassis? haha ... what part of WIN EVERY racing division don't you get? Of course it puts the power down. That's how it makes such fast times both on the track AND the drag strip ...haha
I had to add this comment made by Road & Track from their last Sports car tests regarding the Chassis ...
"The chassis is communicative, with the suspension system upper-and-lower A-arms at both front and rear providing exceptional mid-turn balance. The massive Michelins stick to the pavement like super glue. Get everything right through a corner, and the Viper will easily be the first one through. It registered an amazing 1.02g around the skidpad."
Once again not me .. these are the experts in evaluating cars.
Everyone also keeps on talking about how taking a turn they wouldn't be suprised if the back end lost traction and spinned-out....but then they say that because of the turbos that will have understeer. Ever hear of power-oversteer, I mean that has a lot to do with drifting.
F1 cars are turbo charged, does that make them crap, I think not, I don't know much that handles better than a Formula 1 car. And while we are on the topic of F1, at some poins during high-speed cornering a driver's arm which usually weighs 20 lbs, weighs closer to 100 simply because of the G's they encounter. Jet fighter pilots have to wear G uniforms so they can handle it. So no matter what when driving a perfomance car, turbo or not, it gets tiring. And anyone who think that 1000 HP is too much to just have it going through 2 wheels is too much obviously doesn't remember the days when F1 was 1.5L 1500 HP, weren't those RWD?
Stat wise the Viper has great lateral accerlation, great slalom speed, and is well-balanced. Everyone says that because of the huge motor in front it has no weight in the back....look at where the engine sits in the engine compartment, the engine is as close to the cockpit as possible while the wheels are ahead of the engine, unlike FF or AWD cars where the engine more than often sits directly above wheels. Why did they do this, Oh wait to balance the car.
As far as racing history.
"Among those events in which the Dodge Viper Competition Coupe is eligible to compete are:
? Skip Thomas Viper Racing League The Viper Competition Coupe will have its own class and be the primary wheel-to-wheel event at the Viper Days weekends
? Grand American Cup The Viper Competition Coupe will be eligible to compete (when homologated) in the Grand Sports Class with the Chevrolet Corvette and Porsche 911
? Speedvision World Challenge The Viper Competition Coupe will be eligible to compete (when homologated) in these American Le Mans Series support races
The Competition Coupes predecessor called the Dodge Viper GTS-R and based on the 1996 Dodge Viper GTS Coupe passes on one of the most distinguished
pedigrees in the modern history of endurance racing. The Viper GTS-R earned five international GT championships including the 1999 and 2000 American Le Mans Series GTS class titles and the 1997-1999 FIA GT Championships. The Viper finished 1-2 in the GTS class in three consecutive years 1998-2000 and notched an amazing overall win at the 2000 Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona, the first for an American production-based car. "
I guess that's because Vipers don't handle...
I admire the engine in the Veyron, it's amazing what we can accomplish. Plain and simple the Viper has slightly more power and a LOT more torque, weighing 732 lbs. less. I just don't see how the Veyron can let alone outhandle, but out perform against the Viper. And for those who say that it still has no style how is this not sexy? I honestly don't like the Veyron's styling. That doesn't make it a bad car....just an ugly one (you have to remember that style is a matter of personal opinion.)
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Post #7 Sun, May 14, 10:37 AM |
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trappersofny
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if this was my car i would slap some 355 drags on it and call it a day
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Post #8 Tue, Dec 19, 5:11 AM |
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ETB4U
Supercar Messiah - 1684
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Quote from Euro Trash
just try to put that power down on the road with the vipers crap chassis
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Post #9 Tue, Dec 19, 5:22 AM |
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ETB4U
Supercar Messiah - 1684
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Quote from Euro Trash
just try to put that power down on the road with the vipers crap chassis
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Post #10 Wed, Feb 7, 9:52 AM |
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Betterman
New User - 188
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Freakin RAW.
Dream Garage:
Pagani Zonda F
Ferrari F40
McLaren F1
Lotus Exige(just to drive)
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Post #11 Wed, Feb 14, 5:28 PM |
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YoungJae
Supercar Guru - 578
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Quote from terraflata
I was actually going to mention that. Everyone is talking about how Japanese cars handle better, and that American cars are meant for straight-line only. In drift. a Japanese car dominated category, an American car is kicking all their asses. But it still handles like crap?
Everyone also keeps on talking about how taking a turn they wouldn't be suprised if the back end lost traction and spinned-out....but then they say that because of the turbos that will have understeer. Ever hear of power-oversteer, I mean that has a lot to do with drifting.
F1 cars are turbo charged, does that make them crap, I think not, I don't know much that handles better than a Formula 1 car. And while we are on the topic of F1, at some poins during high-speed cornering a driver's arm which usually weighs 20 lbs, weighs closer to 100 simply because of the G's they encounter. Jet fighter pilots have to wear G uniforms so they can handle it. So no matter what when driving a perfomance car, turbo or not, it gets tiring. And anyone who think that 1000 HP is too much to just have it going through 2 wheels is too much obviously doesn't remember the days when F1 was 1.5L 1500 HP, weren't those RWD?
Stat wise the Viper has great lateral accerlation, great slalom speed, and is well-balanced. Everyone says that because of the huge motor in front it has no weight in the back....look at where the engine sits in the engine compartment, the engine is as close to the cockpit as possible while the wheels are ahead of the engine, unlike FF or AWD cars where the engine more than often sits directly above wheels. Why did they do this, Oh wait to balance the car.
As far as racing history.
"Among those events in which the Dodge Viper Competition Coupe is eligible to compete are:
? Skip Thomas Viper Racing League The Viper Competition Coupe will have its own class and be the primary wheel-to-wheel event at the Viper Days weekends
? Grand American Cup The Viper Competition Coupe will be eligible to compete (when homologated) in the Grand Sports Class with the Chevrolet Corvette and Porsche 911
? Speedvision World Challenge The Viper Competition Coupe will be eligible to compete (when homologated) in these American Le Mans Series support races
The Competition Coupes predecessor called the Dodge Viper GTS-R and based on the 1996 Dodge Viper GTS Coupe passes on one of the most distinguished
pedigrees in the modern history of endurance racing. The Viper GTS-R earned five international GT championships including the 1999 and 2000 American Le Mans Series GTS class titles and the 1997-1999 FIA GT Championships. The Viper finished 1-2 in the GTS class in three consecutive years 1998-2000 and notched an amazing overall win at the 2000 Rolex 24 Hours of Daytona, the first for an American production-based car. "
I guess that's because Vipers don't handle...
I admire the engine in the Veyron, it's amazing what we can accomplish. Plain and simple the Viper has slightly more power and a LOT more torque, weighing 732 lbs. less. I just don't see how the Veyron can let alone outhandle, but out perform against the Viper. And for those who say that it still has no style how is this not sexy? I honestly don't like the Veyron's styling. That doesn't make it a bad car....just an ugly one (you have to remember that style is a matter of personal opinion.)
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