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Post #1 Mon, Feb 20, 1:53 PM
coop a doop
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 Do you think it will be able to break the Veyron's top speed record???
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Post #2 Mon, Feb 20, 2:27 PM
srsocx
Super Guy - 908

 Maybe, it better be a complete new engine cuz it can't take much more boost as it is, and probably can't go 25k miles w/ out an overhaul
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Post #3 Mon, Feb 20, 3:27 PM
iced vodka
Senior Member - 324

 How much boost u think it will be runing?
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Post #4 Mon, Feb 20, 5:05 PM
DCSdunks
Senior Member - 145

 I think it can do it. put in in the right track with the right tires and it should break the record. but it has to go into production first..
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Post #5 Mon, Feb 20, 5:13 PM
hyobum
New Member - 14

 I'm going to believe in Koenigsegg just like I believed in the Veyron.. Can't wait to hear what this baby is going to do!
Post #6 Mon, Feb 20, 5:19 PM
coop a doop
Supercar Messiah - 1646
Quote from iced vodka
How much boost u think it will be runing?
I think it was on something like 18.5 psi on the CCR, so probably not much more. I'm sure they made more advancements in the engine, instead of just upping the boost.

Also, three posts were a bit excessive - delete the other 2.
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Post #7 Mon, Feb 20, 7:15 PM
BMan1113VR
Supercar Guru - 703

 I don't think the Veyron was naturally going to be the fastest car out there, VW had to pour a LOT of money into it to help it better out the CCR, which it barely did. I would say if they put enough money into this car they can better the veyron.
Post #8 Mon, Feb 20, 7:41 PM
canasn
Supercar Messiah - 4095

 same here. i mean, Koenigsegg has the technology to do it. Their CCR went past 240 mph, so It's a safe bet to say that Koenigsegg can increase the speed by 10 or so miles
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Post #9 Mon, Feb 20, 11:24 PM
iced vodka
Senior Member - 324

 soz bout the three posts i duno how that happened
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Post #10 Tue, Feb 21, 8:27 AM
nishav
Supercar Messiah - 8590

 i think it can definitely beat the veyron. lets watch this space...
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Post #11 Tue, Feb 21, 8:44 AM
Violet Harenchi
New User - 24

 of course the ccx will eat veyron alive!! by the way veyron is so #$%#ing ugly!
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Post #12 Tue, Feb 21, 9:17 AM
karbon
Senior Member - 111
Quote from CeO VIRUS
They'd be idiots to just keep boosting the engine that was in the CCr, that thing was on its way to death with all the boosts it had. If they were smart, which I'm sure they are, its a new engine and they're boosing it like mad. Im confident it'll beat the veyron, cause dont forget, this thing is FAR more aerodynamic than the veyron, that thing was like a massive 1000hp lump, so...yeah, this thing definitely has what it takes.
why would they need a new engine when the ccr's engine already produces enough power? 806hp is probably more than enough for a car that weighs almost 2000lbs less than a veyron to propel it to over 250mph. i think they're just going to make the ccx lighter and refine its aerodynamics. koenigsegg will probably make the ccx more powerful than the ccr, but i serously doubt they'll give it a new engine.
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Post #13 Tue, Feb 21, 12:33 PM
Blue E36 M3
New Member - 38

 I'd like to see it beat the Veyron just because of how unexciting and unspecial it is in the way it delivers its performance. However, we must keep in mind just how insane the Veyron really is. First of all, its true (unlimited) top speed is actually 258 mph and change. The second key limits it to 253 to protect the tires. Secondly, this thing is far and away faster than anything ever made. As I've read in a few publications, if a Veyron and a McLaren F1, the previous fastest-accelerating car (yes, it accelerates faster than the over-boosted, long-geared CCR) were to have a drag race, the F1 could start out at 130 mph and the Veyron would catch up by the time both reached 200. Every magazine loved the Veyron, even the ones wanting to hate it. Love it or hate it (I'm indifferent), the Bugatti Veyron is far and away the fastest car ever, and it will take more than a little more boost or even a re-engineered V8 to beat it as fastest road car.
Post #14 Tue, Feb 21, 2:04 PM
srsocx
Super Guy - 908

 Oh well, 1035 hp S7 gonna kill them all, and not just at top speed.
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Post #15 Tue, Feb 21, 3:00 PM
canasn
Supercar Messiah - 4095

 shut up. but obviously, the Veyron can't actually get to that speed. It's just like the SCC Ultimate Aero, and the company saying it can get over 260 mph.
I think that the CCR should beat it no problem.
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Post #16 Tue, Feb 21, 4:33 PM
coop a doop
Supercar Messiah - 1646
Quote from karbon
why would they need a new engine when the ccr's engine already produces enough power? 806hp is probably more than enough for a car that weighs almost 2000lbs less than a veyron to propel it to over 250mph. i think they're just going to make the ccx lighter and refine its aerodynamics. koenigsegg will probably make the ccx more powerful than the ccr, but i serously doubt they'll give it a new engine.
Mass has next to nothing to do with top speed.
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Post #17 Tue, Feb 21, 9:00 PM
YoungJae
Supercar Guru - 578

 From what I can see of it, this is a tad bit more aerodynamic, but that's not going to be enough to beat the Veyron in top speed if they keep the same engine. It probably for sure is a new engine because I doubt they'd add much more boost to the one they already have.
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Post #18 Wed, Feb 22, 5:49 AM
hvvlot
Member - 64

 id gess its the same engine with some mods with a new gearbox. maybe even 7 speed. tweek the airodynamics and it will make a huge difference.

50:50 if it can beat the veyron in top speed. but will distroy it around a track.
Post #19 Wed, Feb 22, 8:11 AM
Variant
Senior Member - 334

 Actually, weight has little to do with top speed other than slighly incresing the rolling resistance... but from Koenigsegg's orginal aerodynamic claims (CdA of .542), the orignal car (CCR) should have topped out somewhere in the vacinity of 253 mph on the 806 bhp that it had. They did say the banked Nardo test circuit scrubbed off some speed, which is true, but the 240.8 mph is well short of that (100 whp, actually) so I reckon their aero figues are bunk to some extent. Perhaps the CCX has the necessacary aero adjustments to make the difference as that is all that it would really take. That being said, I'd take a 240 mph CCR over a 250 mpg Veyron any day of the week... a seperior car in just about every area aside from power-to-drag at very high speeds... something not likely to be experenced on the road... plus it's fugly.
Post #20 Wed, Feb 22, 2:02 PM
bakkistaner
Member - 71

 http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=114332

for those of you that dont understand norwegian, its an article about a ritch guy from norway who has just bought the ccx,
delivery in july/august, so probably one of the first,
he also had the ccr, saw it once as he blew down the street,
awsome sound.
anyways the article says the engine is 900+hp, 1180kg, 0-100 in 3,1 sec and a top speed of more than 400km/h

pricetag: 510.000 euro

he gets the car about the same time he gets his liscense back, wonder how long he will keep it?
Post #21 Wed, Feb 22, 6:33 PM
takethat
New Member - 14

 Mass has a lot to do with top speed. If a car weighs 4000 lbs and has 1000 hp, then each horse is pushing 4 lbs into the wind. If it is suddenly 3000 lbs, then there are 250 more horsepower to push it through the same wind. It is all about excess power.

The CCR has 806 hp and goes 241 mph. If this were its top speed, which i'm not sure then for the CCX to go faster, all other things being equal, like aero, stability, and gearing, it needs between 950-1000hp. Now that is 20-25% more than before. If you just increase the boost then you need to push boost from 19 to 24 psi. This could be possible, but i'm not sure if the engine can be reliable.

Of course all other things are not equal. We will have to see what they come up with.

It is definitely possible. If you need proof, almost 70 years ago, two cars went about 270 mph. We have unleaded fuel, fuel injection, advanced electronics, wind tunnels, and better suspension and tires. It is definitly possible.
Post #22 Wed, Feb 22, 6:50 PM
coop a doop
Supercar Messiah - 1646
Quote from YoungJae
From what I can see of it, this is a tad bit more aerodynamic, but that's not going to be enough to beat the Veyron in top speed if they keep the same engine. It probably for sure is a new engine because I doubt they'd add much more boost to the one they already have.
They said somewhere in the article about upgrading stuff in the engine.
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Post #23 Wed, Feb 22, 7:00 PM
coop a doop
Supercar Messiah - 1646
Quote from takethat
Mass has a lot to do with top speed. If a car weighs 4000 lbs and has 1000 hp, then each horse is pushing 4 lbs into the wind. If it is suddenly 3000 lbs, then there are 250 more horsepower to push it through the same wind. It is all about excess power.

The CCR has 806 hp and goes 241 mph. If this were its top speed, which i'm not sure then for the CCX to go faster, all other things being equal, like aero, stability, and gearing, it needs between 950-1000hp. Now that is 20-25% more than before. If you just increase the boost then you need to push boost from 19 to 24 psi. This could be possible, but i'm not sure if the engine can be reliable.

Of course all other things are not equal. We will have to see what they come up with.

It is definitely possible. If you need proof, almost 70 years ago, two cars went about 270 mph. We have unleaded fuel, fuel injection, advanced electronics, wind tunnels, and better suspension and tires. It is definitly possible.
Mass has inertia. The harder it for the engine to push it forward, the harder is it for air resistance to push it backward. Since inertia is the resistance to change in motion, it's not only going to act for forward motion, and not backward. Also, about more rolling friction, at such incredible speeds you are going to want to develop a lot of downforce (plus the car's mass) to keep the wheels on the ground and the car very stable. That's why the Veyron still develops a lot of downforce in top speed mode when going so fast.
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Post #24 Wed, Feb 22, 7:08 PM
DivineRage
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Quote from takethat
Mass has a lot to do with top speed. If a car weighs 4000 lbs and has 1000 hp, then each horse is pushing 4 lbs into the wind. If it is suddenly 3000 lbs, then there are 250 more horsepower to push it through the same wind. It is all about excess power.

The CCR has 806 hp and goes 241 mph. If this were its top speed, which i'm not sure then for the CCX to go faster, all other things being equal, like aero, stability, and gearing, it needs between 950-1000hp. Now that is 20-25% more than before. If you just increase the boost then you need to push boost from 19 to 24 psi. This could be possible, but i'm not sure if the engine can be reliable.

Of course all other things are not equal. We will have to see what they come up with.

It is definitely possible. If you need proof, almost 70 years ago, two cars went about 270 mph. We have unleaded fuel, fuel injection, advanced electronics, wind tunnels, and better suspension and tires. It is definitly possible.
No, mass has nearly nothing to do with speed, why do you think stuff such as an Elise doesnt reach 300km/h? They have a good power/weight ratio, about as good as a Corvette, yet the Corvette does 300, while the Elise doesnt even get 250 i think. Its because the Corvette has enough power to make it accelerate at high speeds, weight doesnt increase wind resistance, shape does. The Veyron had decent aerodynamics, but massive power, and thats why it broke the 400km/h barrier.

So you only need three things to reach a high speed.

#1: Power
#2: Aerodynamics
#3: A gearing that allows it (if you redlines at 220mph you'll never go above that obviously)

If you have all three, you're all set to beat a reccord.
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Post #25 Thu, Feb 23, 5:22 PM
phanofmuzik2
Supercar Messiah - 36835

 I dont understand why you people dont think an engine can withstand 20 lbs of boost. people run over 20 lbs on VW 1.8t engines with stock internals reliably.

and divinerage is right. Power+ aero+gearing= top speed.

and mass DOES have some effect based on rolling friction, but at those speeds its tiny compared to the air resistance.
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