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Discussion in '2002 Honda Civic Type-R' started by bleak7, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. #1 bleak7, Aug 9, 2002
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    I don't think it's relevant. I mean, I'm not hear to argue that Japanese cars are very reliable. I don't think anyone else is. It's hard to deny the fact that they are. This forum is where people talk about performance, and also relate facts. Some think cars like my new SS don't get good gas mileage becuase they have 5.7 Liter V8's. But in actuality they get around 25mpg!

    I don't doubt that those japanese cars are more reliable, however, Consumer Reports only do specific things in there testing, in which they show their bias'. I just don't think Consumer Reports is a good enough source, becuase they aren't specialized like some magazines, like R&R, and MT, in which they have their bias' too! When it comes down to it, the only way people are gonna be satisfied with their cars, is if they drive them until they're finished, and they can say personally whether or not they felt the car was a good investment!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    i dont like consumer reports, but thats still true. ive had lots of problems, and yet it just depends on the person. i know a person with a 200k mile saturn. but i have to go on what i have personally experienced, and that is domestics=unreliable. but again, i dont hate them at all.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    There is no doubt that Hondas are very reliable. As an everyday drive car, I think they're great. My last everyday drive car was a 97 Saturn SL. At the time I sold it, it had way over 90,000 miles and not one single mechanical problem.

    Are Honda Civics more reliable than Camaros? Of course they are. But ask yourself this. What's more reliable, a 2001 Civic that has been modified to run 13.5, or a stock 01 Cobra or Camaro that can do the same?

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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SeansVette</i>
    <b>There is no doubt that Hondas are very reliable. As an everyday drive car, I think they're great. My last everyday drive car was a 97 Saturn SL. At the time I sold it, it had way over 90,000 miles and not one single mechanical problem.

    Are Honda Civics more reliable than Camaros? Of course they are. But ask yourself this. What's more reliable, a 2001 Civic that has been modified to run 13.5, or a stock 01 Cobra or Camaro that can do the same?

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    You're funny! LOL!
     
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    Why would that start a war? Most of these people probably read things like that all the time. Everyone knows that in general a Civic is more reliable than a Camaro or a Mustang. It's common knowledge. But everyone also knows that in general Camaros and Mustangs outperform Civics. What it all comes down to is personal taste and past experience. Some people like SeansVette prefer domestics. I personally dont care where the car is from, as long as it fits the bill I'm looking for. That's just the way it is.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SeansVette</i>
    <b>There is no doubt that Hondas are very reliable. As an everyday drive car, I think they're great. My last everyday drive car was a 97 Saturn SL. At the time I sold it, it had way over 90,000 miles and not one single mechanical problem.

    Are Honda Civics more reliable than Camaros? Of course they are. But ask yourself this. What's more reliable, a 2001 Civic that has been modified to run 13.5, or a stock 01 Cobra or Camaro that can do the same?

    </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->id almost still say the civic, just from personal experience. but hey, id rather just get a Z06 and have it over with. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
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    If you tune a car properly(reinforce gaskets, bearings and such) the reliability shouldn't be reduced significantly...
    pluss some people might prefer a tuned civic over a stock Z06...
    If they were tuned to the same performance and the civic is styled properly i'd take the civic.
    But both stock I'd go for the Z06 without doubt.
    Althoug I have no evidence to back this satement out you could get a civic close to a Z06 for less money(I might be wrong on that one so shoot me i I am).
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from I Hate RustStangs</i>
    <b>I don't think it's relevant. I mean, I'm not hear to argue that Japanese cars are very reliable. I don't think anyone else is. It's hard to deny the fact that they are. This forum is where people talk about performance, and also relate facts. Some think cars like my new SS don't get good gas mileage becuase they have 5.7 Liter V8's. But in actuality they get around 25mpg!

    I don't doubt that those japanese cars are more reliable, however, Consumer Reports only do specific things in there testing, in which they show their bias'. I just don't think Consumer Reports is a good enough source, becuase they aren't specialized like some magazines, like R&R, and MT, in which they have their bias' too! When it comes down to it, the only way people are gonna be satisfied with their cars, is if they drive them until they're finished, and they can say personally whether or not they felt the car was a good investment!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Yeah I think Consumer Reports are bias. They are bunch of science nerds that judge by the company's reputation.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from RLQ</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from I Hate RustStangs</i>
    <b>I don't think it's relevant. I mean, I'm not hear to argue that Japanese cars are very reliable. I don't think anyone else is. It's hard to deny the fact that they are. This forum is where people talk about performance, and also relate facts. Some think cars like my new SS don't get good gas mileage becuase they have 5.7 Liter V8's. But in actuality they get around 25mpg!

    I don't doubt that those japanese cars are more reliable, however, Consumer Reports only do specific things in there testing, in which they show their bias'. I just don't think Consumer Reports is a good enough source, becuase they aren't specialized like some magazines, like R&R, and MT, in which they have their bias' too! When it comes down to it, the only way people are gonna be satisfied with their cars, is if they drive them until they're finished, and they can say personally whether or not they felt the car was a good investment!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Yeah I think Consumer Reports are bias. They are bunch of science nerds that judge by the company's reputation.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    If by "judge on the company's reputation" you mean "get all the cars and test them themselves" you are right. Consumer Reports gets all its info from tests they perform themselves or letters sent in by readers. Sometimes I too think they are biased about things, but not so far as what you are suggesting.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Coramoor</i>
    <b>If you tune a car properly(reinforce gaskets, bearings and such) the reliability shouldn't be reduced significantly...
    pluss some people might prefer a tuned civic over a stock Z06...
    If they were tuned to the same performance and the civic is styled properly i'd take the civic.
    But both stock I'd go for the Z06 without doubt.
    Althoug I have no evidence to back this satement out you could get a civic close to a Z06 for less money(I might be wrong on that one so shoot me i I am). </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I don't think you could get a Civic up to Vette performance for 50k. Even with a tuned Civic, it would have to be a really good car for me to take it over a Z06. And seeing as how the fastest Civic in the US goes 184, I think I'd take the Z06.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from F1LM My Car</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Coramoor</i>
    <b>If you tune a car properly(reinforce gaskets, bearings and such) the reliability shouldn't be reduced significantly...
    pluss some people might prefer a tuned civic over a stock Z06...
    If they were tuned to the same performance and the civic is styled properly i'd take the civic.
    But both stock I'd go for the Z06 without doubt.
    Althoug I have no evidence to back this satement out you could get a civic close to a Z06 for less money(I might be wrong on that one so shoot me i I am). </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I don't think you could get a Civic up to Vette performance for 50k. Even with a tuned Civic, it would have to be a really good car for me to take it over a Z06. And seeing as how the fastest Civic in the US goes 184, I think I'd take the Z06.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->remember though, that was on a B16A3. so id say with the proper suspension, and an H22, turboed with a T3/T4 hybrid turbo, and id say for 30k you could run circles around a Z06. but, thats very tuned, and id almost still rather take the vette.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    People have diffrent tastes in cars, and cars have unique ways to impress people.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from buzzbomber</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from F1LM My Car</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Coramoor</i>
    <b>If you tune a car properly(reinforce gaskets, bearings and such) the reliability shouldn't be reduced significantly...
    pluss some people might prefer a tuned civic over a stock Z06...
    If they were tuned to the same performance and the civic is styled properly i'd take the civic.
    But both stock I'd go for the Z06 without doubt.
    Althoug I have no evidence to back this satement out you could get a civic close to a Z06 for less money(I might be wrong on that one so shoot me i I am). </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I don't think you could get a Civic up to Vette performance for 50k. Even with a tuned Civic, it would have to be a really good car for me to take it over a Z06. And seeing as how the fastest Civic in the US goes 184, I think I'd take the Z06.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->remember though, that was on a B16A3. so id say with the proper suspension, and an H22, turboed with a T3/T4 hybrid turbo, and id say for 30k you could run circles around a Z06. but, thats very tuned, and id almost still rather take the vette.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    In the end te Z06 would probably end up costing you less after fuel consumption and such.<!-- Signature -->
     

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