New Aluminium Hemi Blocks (6.1L plus)

Discussion in 'American Cars' started by Jadotch, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. #1 Jadotch, Jan 11, 2010
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    http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/2010/163_news100108_mopar_engines_online_ordering/index.html

    The Mopar catalog for Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Ram vehicles is now available for online ordering through the new Mopar eStore. More than 100,000 authentic parts, accessories, and performance parts are eligible for Web ordering.

    Mopar has also introduced new engines for 2010. Three aluminum versions of its popular cast-iron 6.1-liter Hemi block have joined the catalog: a 6.1-liter, a 6.9-liter, and an “X Block” engine builder’s special that can be expanded to 7.6 liters.

    Also newly available is a 9.4-liter Hemi V-8 with 650 horsepower and 660 pound-feet of torque, and a stroked 4.7-liter inline-six long-block based on the long-lived Jeep 4.0-liter long-six. The new 4.7-liter powerplant puts out 265 horsepower and 290 pound-feet of torque, a respectable increase over the former 4.0-liter engine’s 190 horsepower and 235 pound-feet of torque. Jeep TJ Wrangler owners now have another engine swap option.
     
  2. "Also newly available is a 9.4-liter Hemi V-8 with 650 horsepower and 660 pound-feet of torque"

    Goddamn
     
  3. I want a 9.4L hemi. Badly.
     
  4. Put it in your STi.
     
  5. *Fiero
     
  6. BUT.. THE BALANCE!
     
  7. My choice is X Block engine which can be expanded to 7.6 liters.
     
  8. ill put it in the trunk/backseat.
     
  9. sick!!!!!
     
  10. They should stick to the new Hemi stuff. Their classic Hemi stuff is way behind the curve, 650 hp from an aftermarket 572 Hemi is a joke.
     
  11. passion
     
  12. Don't forget its an alloy block, and a REAL HEMI. They are real fuel burners and have a HUGE power potential, beyond the compromised/filleted current 'HEMIs' offered in production vehicles. There is a reason drag cars use hemispherical heads and not wedge, pentroof etc.

    And their classic HEMIs can be ordered with over 900 horsepower (s/c 540 alloy hemi for example), but those are expensive as hell. I would imagine this is a cheaper compromise. Does not seem to be much info on them yet.
     
  13. I understand the Hemi is the dominant engine in drag racing, it is a great design. The problem is Mopar does a crap job with them. Keith Black, Indy Cylinder Heads, and a half dozen other companies have been making better Hemis for years. Introducing a 650 hp 572 now is pointless when Indy has sold a pump gas 800+ hp Hemi for years that weighs only 500 pounds.

    The modern Hemi aftermarket has been moving very slowly and needs all the help it can get. I'd just like to see all Mopars new effort directed at them and leave the real Hemis to the pros.
     
  14. Mopar has built some pretty serious HEMI mills, its.. mopar.. I would consider them among the pros.. If this thing is priced right it can offer something over the indy engines, which are mostly in the $20k-30k range. I don't think Mopar intended to make a firebreather, just a big streetable engine, with obvious potential.
     
  15. big engines bring out the indie n00bz will small dix fosho
     
  16. A 528 Hemi from Mopar is over 20k and makes a weak 610 hp with a cast iron block. This new Mopar aluminum Hemi is going to carry all the sticker shock with a lot less power and no proven track record. Not to mention Mopar crate Hemis are known to rattle apart and have crazy bad tolerances and machine work.
     
  17. #17 DrifterB2W, Jan 15, 2010
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    They were shit for a little while from (thanks to some supplier conflicts.. cummins made terrible mills) what i remember, but.. edelbrock makes the heads, world makes the block, K-1 cranks and rods, wiseco pistons.. Thats with the 528 at least, I believe others are similar. Bigger engines like this might be made elsewhere. Mopar (re)invested in a lot of tooling and foundry work, so what you get now should be pretty top notch.

    Mopar 528 is also rated at 640HP not 610 HP .. and cost $17k.. not over $20k.

    http://www.jimsautoparts.com/mopar_performance_engines.htm
    http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/32698_mopar_crate_engines/index.html

    Original hemi crates were made by arrow, and also done very well, moparmuscle did an article on them. Cummins would be the HEMIs to avoid..

    http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/32579_hemi_crate_engines/index.html
     
  18. Summit still sells the 610 hp 528 for $20,8xx I didn't bother looking around. Still, this new engine is undoubtably going to be more then the 528 and into the territory of the real engine makers. Can't say for sure since Mopars new parts site is absolute crap and I can't find any of this new stuff on it.
     
  19. 9.4l? LOL
     
  20. I dunno if Private Messages still work here. But anyway, I like the wheels in your site. Whats that song there?
     
  21. #21 426 Hemistage 8, Jan 22, 2010
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    The new generation of Hemi engines isn't clearly a Hemi based engines but the engine has polypsherical combustion chamber like the 365ci and the 318ci engines found in the 1959 and in the 1960 chrys corp cars.
    I see nothing wrong with mopar's hemi crate engines http://www.moparproshop.com/big_block_crate_engines. They are mainly manufactured by Ray Barton. Remember that Ray Barton also manufactures hemi crate engines and has a very long experience in terms of engine manufacturing.Nick Arias a famous engine builder of hemi engines http://www.nickariasjr.com/flyer04.html has built a 540ci hemi engine that pours 963hp and 810 lbs/ft of torque http://www.truckinweb.com/tech/engine/0808tr_nick_arias_hemi_engine_build/specifications.html For the note, the arias Hemi engines are chevy big blocks using hemispherical combustion chambers, Arias engines are extremely successful in drag racing and tractor pulling. Also Keith Black is worth mentionning for the quality of the engines, he manufactures. At last but not least, you have jon kaase who offers a 820ci pro stock hemi engine devellopping way over 1800 hp http://www.jonkaaseracingengines.com/products/engines/820-mopar-dodge-hemi/67-820-mopar-dodge-hemi.html
     
  22. 650hp? LOL
     
  23. No replacement...
     
  24. lol at 650hp from a 9.4l I'd have hoped for at least 900hp from that

    way to go shitty manufacturers, still feeding moronic fatasses crappy outdated technology and from the looks of this thread they're still eating up all that crap with a smile on their faces!
     

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