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Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra' started by Bene, Aug 9, 2002.

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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Camaroisking</i>
    <b>Will somone plese tell me what is stock about a svt cobra.......hmmm nothing because it is a cobra and designed by svt. The stock mustang is a v6 and any thing other than that is EXTRA. And your top performer the Cobra R has alredy been beaten by the zo6 and the vipper whiped both of them. Mustangs are garbage. They look like crap, they have never had any form of airodinamics with the fake intakes and fender flares. The Camaro is sleek and smooth and flows thru the air. And if you don't like leg room sure a mustang is the choice for you. If you like loud wind noise then buy a mustang. If you like to smoke people off the line and then get passed by the nissan pickup because you are out of gears and you just hit 120 so your govenor shut you off then.............Buy the little weak "rustang"</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    What is stock about the SVT Cobra? The entire car is stock. Ford sells it directly from the factory to the dealer. It is not a tuner car like Saleen. It's simply a completely different model than the GT. Hell, it even has a completely different engine. It doesn't matter that Ford uses a special team for high performance vehicles. All that matters is that Ford sells it the way it is. STOCK.

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    <b>Will somone plese tell me what is stock about a svt cobra.......hmmm nothing because it is a cobra and designed by svt. The stock mustang is a v6 and any thing other than that is EXTRA. And your top performer the Cobra R has alredy been beaten by the zo6 and the vipper whiped both of them. Mustangs are garbage. They look like crap, they have never had any form of airodinamics with the fake intakes and fender flares. The Camaro is sleek and smooth and flows thru the air. And if you don't like leg room sure a mustang is the choice for you. If you like loud wind noise then buy a mustang. If you like to smoke people off the line and then get passed by the nissan pickup because you are out of gears and you just hit 120 so your govenor shut you off then.............Buy the little weak "rustang"</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    stock mustang a v6? ummm...hmmm...then what the hell is the v6 camaro as compared to your z28 or ss on the chevy side? do you have any sense or are you just not aware that a v6 camaro and firebird exist? by the way, i agree with you about the fake air intakes on mustangs and aerodynamics (though camaros and birds are too big and bulky too, just more aerodynamic) and i hate those fake intakes. but, they weren't always like that. i own a '95 gt with a few mods and 137,000 miles (so don't say they don't last either cuz that's crap too) and the intakes on the sides are functional. yes, functional....they direct air into the rotors and brakes. they didn't screw that up til the '99 stang came out. oh and no governor has ever stopped me at 120...i've been 135+ in mine with no problem. seems like seansvette is the only one being sensible here. kudos to sean.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from zamac_man</i>
    <b>Just because there going to stop making them for a couple years doesnt mean the camaro and firebirds are just going to disappear.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Okay first off i wanna say that i agree with u but, But think of it like this, the camaro was here and now is gone. what can they possibly do to make it stay this time? it had a bigger engine than this stang and could whoop a stans A$$ but, chevy had the horrible reliability in the maro's and bird's. and corvettes to. so tell me what can they possibly do that they didnt do before to make it better?<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Consumer Reports gave the camaro firebird and corvett POOR RELIABILITY reports.My cousin had a corvette (87 i think) and it ran horrible. my brother had a z28 89 and when his radiator went, so did everything else as for the firebirds im not really sure about there quality.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Supra and Bronco</i>
    <b>Consumer Reports gave the camaro firebird and corvett POOR RELIABILITY reports.My cousin had a corvette (87 i think) and it ran horrible. my brother had a z28 89 and when his radiator went, so did everything else as for the firebirds im not really sure about there quality.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Funny.....I've owned nuthin' but f-bodies for years, and they were the most reliable cars I've had.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 94FORMULA</i>
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    <b>Consumer Reports gave the camaro firebird and corvett POOR RELIABILITY reports.My cousin had a corvette (87 i think) and it ran horrible. my brother had a z28 89 and when his radiator went, so did everything else as for the firebirds im not really sure about there quality.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Funny.....I've owned nuthin' but f-bodies for years, and they were the most reliable cars I've had.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Funny.... I've owned this F-series for over a decade and it's the most reliable vehicle I have ever driven/owned, stock engine lasted 18 years.

    Seriously though 3rd generation F-bodies (Camaro/Firebird) and 4th generation Corvettes are a mechanical headache. Had a nice-looking black 4th generation Corvette in the shop about a month ago. An older gentleman owned and drove it, he didn't race it or anything, but it left the shop with nothing less than a brand new engine, that's how bad off a sub-100,000 mile C4 Corvette is. A black 3rd generation F-body Firebird with KNIGHT RYDER sticker across the windshield, is in the shop every two weeks now. Then there was the blue 1992 Camaro RS coupe, mint condition inside out, less than 65,000 miles and again, left the shop with a brand new engine.

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    man im not sure if youve looked at the numbers right, but this Cobra will finally give the vettes and camaros the spanking they deserve. and thats the truth, just wait and see. how much is a vette by the way? how much is the Cobra? ya thats what i thought. All you vette and camaros fans are just jealous because Ford finally put out the beast, and you are all afraid!! hahaha. unless of course you have NOS in your vette.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 94FORMULA</i>
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    <b>Consumer Reports gave the camaro firebird and corvett POOR RELIABILITY reports.My cousin had a corvette (87 i think) and it ran horrible. my brother had a z28 89 and when his radiator went, so did everything else as for the firebirds im not really sure about there quality.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Funny.....I've owned nuthin' but f-bodies for years, and they were the most reliable cars I've had.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    if they are the only cars youve owned, then i hope they are the most reliable cars you have had... DUMBASS! i saw your pic of that firehawk looks nice.. <!-- Signature -->
     
  10. #85 Iverson, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: Dont get so COCKY ford guys ,F-bodies will be back soon(MORE

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    <b> You are an idiot Lingenfelter, face it. Comparing a Z06 to this? TO THIS?! The Cobra is more aimed to compete with Corvettes, NOT THE DAMN Z06! Since your feeling so insecure, why don't you go over to the BMW Issetta forum and talk about how much your beloved Z06 can smoke that BMW and how it just cannot compete with the sheer power of the Z06. God damn your an idiot.

    Want to know the reason why the Mustang sells better? Lower price and comparable, if not better, performance. Why don't you compare Corvette Coupe (NON-Z06 and NON-C5R) STOCK to this 2003 Cobra STOCK.

    Price:

    Corvette Coupe: $48,380
    Corba Coupe: $29,000

    Winner: Cobra

    Horsepower:

    Corvette Coupe: 350 bhp with a 5.7L
    Cobra Coupe: 390 bhp with a 4.6L

    Winnner: Cobra

    Torque:

    Corvette Coupe: 360 ft-lbs
    Cobra Coupe: 390 ft-lbs

    Winner: Cobra

    Weight:

    Corvette Coupe: 3212 lbs
    Cobra Coupe: 3664 lbs

    Winner: Corvette

    Better Bang Per Buck: Cobra

    Winner Overall: Cobra

    When will you Chevy boys stop bringing out your biggest guns to compare it with someting not in it's league?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    Fordman you messed these some of these # up nicley...
    Corvette Coupe 0-60 4.5 sec
    2003 cobra 0-60 4.9 sec

    Base price Corvette 2002 Coupe MSRP $41,210.00 Invoice $36,058.75 ( www.Kbb.com)
    2003 Cobra $35,000 Is what the estimated price is , Motor Trend.

    Weight , well the vette wins, hands down.

    Hp and Torque are correct, however because of this 2003 cobra heavy weight, that does not even matter.. A vette Coupe will beat this in a Drag race, all thou not by much. Any other race the vette will win even more, because the vette can out handle this car, because it has almost 50/50 balance.
     
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    <b> You are an idiot Lingenfelter, face it. Comparing a Z06 to this? TO THIS?! The Cobra is more aimed to compete with Corvettes, NOT THE DAMN Z06! Since your feeling so insecure, why don't you go over to the BMW Issetta forum and talk about how much your beloved Z06 can smoke that BMW and how it just cannot compete with the sheer power of the Z06. God damn your an idiot.

    Want to know the reason why the Mustang sells better? Lower price and comparable, if not better, performance. Why don't you compare Corvette Coupe (NON-Z06 and NON-C5R) STOCK to this 2003 Cobra STOCK.

    Price:

    Corvette Coupe: $48,380
    Corba Coupe: $29,000

    Winner: Cobra

    Horsepower:

    Corvette Coupe: 350 bhp with a 5.7L
    Cobra Coupe: 390 bhp with a 4.6L

    Winnner: Cobra

    Torque:

    Corvette Coupe: 360 ft-lbs
    Cobra Coupe: 390 ft-lbs

    Winner: Cobra

    Weight:

    Corvette Coupe: 3212 lbs
    Cobra Coupe: 3664 lbs

    Winner: Corvette

    Better Bang Per Buck: Cobra

    Winner Overall: Cobra

    When will you Chevy boys stop bringing out your biggest guns to compare it with someting not in it's league?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    Fordman you messed these some of these # up nicley...
    Corvette Coupe 0-60 4.5 sec
    2003 cobra 0-60 4.9 sec

    Base price Corvette 2002 Coupe MSRP $41,210.00 Invoice $36,058.75 ( www.Kbb.com)
    2003 Cobra $35,000 Is what the estimated price is , Motor Trend.

    Weight , well the vette wins, hands down.

    Hp and Torque are correct, however because of this 2003 cobra heavy weight, that does not even matter.. A vette Coupe will beat this in a Drag race, all thou not by much. Any other race the vette will win even more, because the vette can out handle this car, because it has almost 50/50 balance.






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    How typical of you to compare the Corvette C5 Coupe to the Cobra Convertible. The Cobra Coupe is $29,000 MSRP. Would you care to put a source to that 0-60 2003 Cobra time? The 2001 Cobra ran 0-60 in 4.8 and 2000 Cobra R in 4.4. So why would the 2003 Cobra only get 4.9? It's Ford, not Pontiac. Ford doesn't make cars slower from it's previous year's model.

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    Shut the f*ck up! How many times do I have to say it? This car sucks my balls! It has a high price tag and doesn't even whip a SS or WS6's ass! What a waste of money. If you buy this car, ford is laughing in your face cuz they just put an overpriced blower in it and it pulls tenths of seconds faster than a SS or WS6. So stop acting like it kicks ass. Give me the difference in money and I'll put some forced air in a SS and you'll see an 11 second car. The design sucks, the engine sucks and frankly if you like it then get out your lolipops cuz you suck too!
     
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    <b>Shut the f*ck up! How many times do I have to say it? This car sucks my balls! It has a high price tag and doesn't even whip a SS or WS6's ass! What a waste of money. If you buy this car, ford is laughing in your face cuz they just put an overpriced blower in it and it pulls tenths of seconds faster than a SS or WS6. So stop acting like it kicks ass. Give me the difference in money and I'll put some forced air in a SS and you'll see an 11 second car. The design sucks, the engine sucks and frankly if you like it then get out your lolipops cuz you suck too!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Well, lets see here...In the drag racing world, tenths of second are HUGE. On average, if you get beat by someone in the quarter mile by a tenth, you get beat by a full car length. If you get beat by a few tenths you get beat by a few car lengths. But I guess you are missing the point altogether. As said by the immortal Vin Diesel, "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's Winning." And we are discussing stock cars here, shithead, not your #$%#ing 11 second modded out SS.
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    <b>Little Boy? Try 6'5" 230lbs of big boy all up in your girlfriends pussy every f*cking night, cuz you can't hang with the big boys! You've proved you can't hang with the big boys by buying a Shitsubishi! So tonight when you get up in your girlfriend and you fall through cuz her pussy is too tight, think about us, cuz if you race any of us she's bound to go home with bigboys little man! I think nothing I just said was taken from you...so go ahead come back, I dare you! Don't ever come up here insulting American cars, are you even American? If so get the f*ck out, if your not happy!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I said put your rubber girl away and find a real one in your ford camaro......
     
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    <b>Shut the f*ck up! How many times do I have to say it? This car sucks my balls! It has a high price tag and doesn't even whip a SS or WS6's ass! What a waste of money. If you buy this car, ford is laughing in your face cuz they just put an overpriced blower in it and it pulls tenths of seconds faster than a SS or WS6. So stop acting like it kicks ass. Give me the difference in money and I'll put some forced air in a SS and you'll see an 11 second car. The design sucks, the engine sucks and frankly if you like it then get out your lolipops cuz you suck too!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Well, lets see here...In the drag racing world, tenths of second are HUGE. On average, if you get beat by someone in the quarter mile by a tenth, you get beat by a full car length. If you get beat by a few tenths you get beat by a few car lengths. But I guess you are missing the point altogether. As said by the immortal Vin Diesel, "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's Winning." And we are discussing stock cars here, shithead, not your #$%#ing 11 second modded out SS.
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    Well aren't you just the f*cking idiot! Take your Fast and Furious DVD and stick it in your slit you pussy! My whole idea of the f*cking post was saying for it's money it should kick serious ass. Now what does "Give me the difference in money and I'll put some forced air in a SS and you'll see an 11 second car." Mean to you? That's what I'm trying to prove here whether you agree with me or not. I know all about the #$%#ing "Winning is winning" bullshit so don't bring that up you unoriginal fool! I'm saying that with the extra cash it costs it's mods should make it much more faster but it isn't now is it? F*ck the fact that this ShitStang is a stock car. It's still modified you moron. With more than 50hp than a SS or WS6 it should be much faster. And I honestly think people would agree with me. Ford is just trying to make an extra dollar before they bring out the new generation. Don't ever get in an argument with me again. As a matter of fact, get off the forum unless you have something intelligent to say, becuase people like you over crowd this damn site and make it slower than a Mustang! Dammit now man hands hurt for typing this message, I hope you're happy F*cker!
     
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    I have noticed that there are more Chevy fanatics at the Ford Forums than their own. I am a car enthiusist and I tend to look up different cars and their specs. Also I tend to read all the threads which of course some are humorous at best, especially when people make up shit to make their cars better than the one mentioned. Also, I notice that the GM/Chevy forum is deserted with a few fans visiting the tomb stone of the Camaro/Firebird/Firehawk. Surprisingly enough, these Chevy guys visit the Ford forum more consistant then their own. And in the same note..that there are NO Ford Fans at the Chevy forum. You would think that with the amount of visits that the Chevy guys pay the Ford forum, that the Ford fans would go over to their area and do the same thing and trash talk their cars, but Ford fans do not.
     
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    <b>Shut the f*ck up! How many times do I have to say it? This car sucks my balls! It has a high price tag and doesn't even whip a SS or WS6's ass! What a waste of money. If you buy this car, ford is laughing in your face cuz they just put an overpriced blower in it and it pulls tenths of seconds faster than a SS or WS6. So stop acting like it kicks ass. Give me the difference in money and I'll put some forced air in a SS and you'll see an 11 second car. The design sucks, the engine sucks and frankly if you like it then get out your lolipops cuz you suck too!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Well, lets see here...In the drag racing world, tenths of second are HUGE. On average, if you get beat by someone in the quarter mile by a tenth, you get beat by a full car length. If you get beat by a few tenths you get beat by a few car lengths. But I guess you are missing the point altogether. As said by the immortal Vin Diesel, "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's Winning." And we are discussing stock cars here, shithead, not your #$%#ing 11 second modded out SS.
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    Well aren't you just the f*cking idiot! Take your Fast and Furious DVD and stick it in your slit you pussy! My whole idea of the f*cking post was saying for it's money it should kick serious ass. Now what does "Give me the difference in money and I'll put some forced air in a SS and you'll see an 11 second car." Mean to you? That's what I'm trying to prove here whether you agree with me or not. I know all about the #$%#ing "Winning is winning" bullshit so don't bring that up you unoriginal fool! I'm saying that with the extra cash it costs it's mods should make it much more faster but it isn't now is it? F*ck the fact that this ShitStang is a stock car. It's still modified you moron. With more than 50hp than a SS or WS6 it should be much faster. And I honestly think people would agree with me. Ford is just trying to make an extra dollar before they bring out the new generation. Don't ever get in an argument with me again. As a matter of fact, get off the forum unless you have something intelligent to say, becuase people like you over crowd this damn site and make it slower than a Mustang! Dammit now man hands hurt for typing this message, I hope you're happy F*cker!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Hey, ass, by stock/unmodified I mean RIGHT OFF THE SHOWROOM FLOOR with no aftermarket parts added to it. But since you are being a cocksucker about how cheaply you can modify your SS to be fast, do you know what I could do to add even more performance to this Cobra, at less than a grand? Slap a smaller pulley, computer chip, and cat back exhaust system on and gain about 50-100 addtitional horsepower. Not feasible you say??? BULLSHIT. Take a look at what F-150 Lightning owners have done with their setups and they get similiar results. How does this work on a Cobra, you ask? The superchargers are exactly the same. So, for less than a grand on top of the price of the Cobra, I can build a 450+HP SS stomping machine for as much or maybe less than your blown piece of shit.

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    <b>Well, for a comparitivly tiny amount of $ spent on a new blower, intercooler ect. (by the way the fact that this car uses water to air rocks, it can handle more boost than what it is seeing now), you can turn up the boost on the 'stang, and see huge performance results.
    But shit. I can go get a Z28 that has a bigger price diff than this to the SS, and spend the extra money, and kill the SS. Whats your point. Do you consider the SS a peice of crap as well? Does not seem that way. This is why the whole, "I can spend the extra money" argument is invalid.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Damn this site pisses me off! I've tried to quote you 3 times and it didn't show up. Anyway as far as saying the argument is invalid, it most certainly is not. The Cobra and SS go against each other. The GT and Z28 duke it out. This is about the SS and Cobra. That's why it isn't. Let's say Chevy decided at the last minute since there's an excess of F-Body's left. (Hypothetically speaking of course!) But let's say they decide to drop some Forced Air in it, you know damn well this Cobra wouldn't be able to light a candle in it's wind. And I bet you anything if something like this did happen the price would be the same. My point is still this. Basically speaking, Ford Dropped a Roots-Type blower in this Cobra just so this 4.6 can nudge it's way past the finish line. I know this car is faster, but for it's price...now that's what I'm stressing right there, it's overpriced, now if it were a little more closer to a SS or WS6 you would honestly get some compliments from me.
     
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    <b>. Let's say Chevy decided at the last minute since there's an excess of F-Body's left. (Hypothetically speaking of course!) </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Haha, actually, that situation isn't hypothetical, it has been a year-after-year reality for Chevy! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
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    What the f*ck are you talking about moron? This Cobra is the first Cobra to actually out do an SS or WS6. So as far as reality for Chevy, the reality is this...Ford Mustangs are built cheap, so ford produced more of them. Therefore the sales were more. Chevy doesn't produce cheap cars, but every f*cking year, the SS and WS6 outclassed the Cobra everytime. Your a moron!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    God damn you are stupid, boy. It has been documented that the Mustang outsells BOTH the Camaro and Firebird 2 to 1 COMBINED. Are you trying to tell me there are were more Mustangs built than both Camaros and Firebirds???? If you seriously think so you need help.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    sweet car
     
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    lets get something right. This car is Z06 and Viper material. So for the price your getting ALOT of car.
     
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    <b> They use the same blower on the lighting and its only 32k out the door. Since the mustang is so cheap according to chevy lovers, why would the mustang be 35k. Ford is not dumb when it comes to marketing thats why they have been around so long and have some of the best selling autos'. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Your basically telling me my point all over again except you disagree with it. The Mustang was built cheap and ford put a huge price tag on it. Read the WS6 forum for the last time. there's a guy on there who built the mustang and even admits ford built them cheap just to keep up with the sales demand. So yeah Chevy fans are right the mustang is cheap. If you don't think a car that has a 4.6 with a blower in it isn't cheaply made than what's wrong with you? This car would be great if it didn't have the 4.6 in it. But ford wants to save there money and take yours so they keep using the same shitty 4.6. If they had a 5.0 or the actual Lightning engine in it, this car would be really sweet and would give me a reason why it's price tag is so high. But a 4.6 with forced air isn't enough for me especially for it's high price.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I don't think a DOHC engine is cheap at no matter what the size plus a 6 speed, aluminum drive shaft, and all the goodies that come with this. I agree with you it needs a bigger engine but it has plenty of power for such a small engine. I don't think there really to many cheap tinks on a cobra maybe the V-6stangs. Think about it all the interior is changed in a cobra, brand new hand built engine, couple exterior changes. A cobra is not one of Fords cheap cars</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Look, I totally agree with you on this, but I just think that for the mods, this car should be whipping a SS or WS6's ass. But as far as the numbers go, it really doesn't. Yes it's faster but not a whole lot faster you know? And what I mean by cheap is that Ford has the money and resources to spend on trying to make an aluminum block work with this charger, but they didn't it seems like they wanted to rush production so they saved money and got cheap on you Mustang fans. An I know that the cast-iron block is probably a little resourceful but I mean Ford can easily do it. You know that with this block this engine is a lot more heavier. Plus a lot of european companies have achieved forced air with aluminum blocks, and that's what these damn Euro fans try to put on you. But don't worry guys no matter how much I hate newer mustangs I still like ford, I've never said Ford is crap! So if another damn moron posts shit like American Cars suck, yo know damn well my trash talkin' mouth will be directed towards them. Long Live American Muscle!
     
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    <b> You are an idiot Lingenfelter, face it. Comparing a Z06 to this? TO THIS?! The Cobra is more aimed to compete with Corvettes, NOT THE DAMN Z06! Since your feeling so insecure, why don't you go over to the BMW Issetta forum and talk about how much your beloved Z06 can smoke that BMW and how it just cannot compete with the sheer power of the Z06. God damn your an idiot.

    Want to know the reason why the Mustang sells better? Lower price and comparable, if not better, performance. Why don't you compare Corvette Coupe (NON-Z06 and NON-C5R) STOCK to this 2003 Cobra STOCK.

    Price:

    Corvette Coupe: $48,380
    Corba Coupe: $29,000

    Winner: Cobra

    Horsepower:

    Corvette Coupe: 350 bhp with a 5.7L
    Cobra Coupe: 390 bhp with a 4.6L

    Winnner: Cobra

    Torque:

    Corvette Coupe: 360 ft-lbs
    Cobra Coupe: 390 ft-lbs

    Winner: Cobra

    Weight:

    Corvette Coupe: 3212 lbs
    Cobra Coupe: 3664 lbs

    Winner: Corvette

    Better Bang Per Buck: Cobra

    Winner Overall: Cobra

    When will you Chevy boys stop bringing out your biggest guns to compare it with someting not in it's league?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Fordman some of your specs are off again.
    The corvette coupes cost $40,000 not $48,000 that's the price of the z06. Also this car will cost $35,000 not $29,000, Duh it has a supercharger in it. Does it make any sence for ford to throw a supercharger in this car, and not raise the price from the pervious model. God for a super car guru you sure are off with specs. Also this car still can't beat the coupe, because it weight too much.
    Corvette 0-60 = 4.4 to 4.5 sec
    Svt 2003 0-60= 4.8 to 4.9 sec

    Get your gt40 yet fordman ?
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    Where'd you get 0-60 is 4.8? The current Cobra with 90HP and torque LESS gets that. You think the times went down?

    For all you idiots: This is the Convertible. It naturally weighs more and costs more than a coupe. COMPARE THE CONVERTIBLES #S to this. Corvette convertible still cost 40k? Still weighs 3100lbs.? Geez you chevy guys.

    And how about the Corvette hardtop vs. Roush 360R

    0-60 Corvette 4.5, Roush 4.3
    1/4 Corvette 13.x?, Roush 12.3

    Price Corvette 42k, Roush 40k</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Hey Homan you Dumb ShiT,
    Get you dam facts right, before you open your Fat mouth. 84Fordman compared the 2003 svt to the 2002 corvette coupe, not me. I just corrected his facts. Since when am I a Chevy Guy ?????? You Ford guys are so full of yourselves, that's why people are always correcting every single one of you, ford fans. Say some more Shit Homan. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I know that fordman compared the '03 Cobra to the '02 corvette coupe. The point is for 10k less the '03 Cobra will be very competitive with the '02 corvette, that is the point. My comparison is actually fair, they both are around the same costs, and the vette gets cleaned up. But I guess you can't do nothing but talk shit. Look at what I say I refute everything you say and you just run off your mouth as it is obvious that you know nothing. I tell you to back up a comment (the 0-60 times you quoted) and you don't.
     
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    <b>. Let's say Chevy decided at the last minute since there's an excess of F-Body's left. (Hypothetically speaking of course!) </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Haha, actually, that situation isn't hypothetical, it has been a year-after-year reality for Chevy! <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    What the f*ck are you talking about moron? This Cobra is the first Cobra to actually out do an SS or WS6. So as far as reality for Chevy, the reality is this...Ford Mustangs are built cheap, so ford produced more of them. Therefore the sales were more. Chevy doesn't produce cheap cars, but every f*cking year, the SS and WS6 outclassed the Cobra everytime. Your a moron!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    And yeah, if more mustangs were made than both the camaro AND firebird put together there is definitely a reason for that...and it's also the reason why the camaro and firebird are taking a siesta for a while...they couldn't give the damn things away!!!! logic would tell ya that if you don't sell the cars, you probably shouldn't make too damn many. i used to sell the firebirds at a local dealership and i can tell you that not very many of them left our lot and the ones that did were mainly v6 models. don't get me wrong...the ws6 is a great car. but...if you can't sell it, it really doesn't matter how great it is. ultimately, it's the money that decides whether or not a car lives or dies, and the f-bodys were losing more than they were making. it costs money to keep a car sitting around on a lot for months and there were quite a few SS's and WS6's sitting around out there wasting GM's money.
     

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