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Discussion in '2000 Pontiac Firebird MMS 421 Concept' started by 2003 ss R, Aug 9, 2002.
This car vs. jap. cars
This car wiil wip a japanese car anyday.
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Actually yeah it will Dumbass! Every car on your list has turbos... Drop two into this thing and the horsepower will reach 4 digits. <!-- Signature -->
I dont get it... the list of cars he posted dont even come close to this firebird, and plymouth is a jap now? since when? this monster would eat any jap car!
if we are gonna be comparing turbos then get the 800TT viper or even better the ligenfelter 427 twin turbo corvette that ran mid 9's with out NOS and beat the crap out of the viper. i would hate to see what ligenfelter coud do with this if it gave it the same package as the corvette.
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So fuxen Stupid lol Maybe most JAp cars but i own the 3rd fastest Jap Gto in North America 678 hp 1\4 9.3402 I Somehow doubt this would beat my Quart time if so No way it Could beat my track times this char from RallyArt costed 200k yen from the GT shop it only had Bhp of 487
Even with that Hp the Power to weight was much greater Use your brain before you say this can beat all cars from one Place.
On the Other hand I also Love How this car Ownz Without the Use of Super Chargers.. Great Use of Displacment here for a Stock Class car to have 600hp with no help.
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<b>So fuxen Stupid lol Maybe most JAp cars but i own the 3rd fastest Jap Gto in North America 678 hp 1\4 9.3402 I Somehow doubt this would beat my Quart time if so No way it Could beat my track times this char from RallyArt costed 200k yen from the GT shop it only had Bhp of 487
Even with that Hp the Power to weight was much greater Use your brain before you say this can beat all cars from one Place.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Then again youre lying. That is not sufficient HP on a GTO to run low 9s, which you couldnt do on street tires anyway.<!-- Signature -->
Well even if your car could run the 1/4 mile in 9.3sec. the new lingenfelter could do it in 9.2sec with regular street tires.
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Why do you people always think that turbos give the car an unfair advantage, I mean the displace ment this car has is another unfair advantage (so they cancel out(i guesse)). There are some tuner supras that might be able to beat this, but they dont look or sound as good. The 427TT could beat probably any japanese car. I would rather have this but i would have to change the wheels.<!-- Signature -->
this car would be crazy if it had nitrous or a turbo pontiac is stupid if they dont make it but yes it probably would smoke most japanese cars
for me that doeszn't matter
have you seen the video of 2 supras raping an an 800tt viper? i guess not...once supra had more horspower than the viper, the other had less...and they mauled its ass
and it no doubt costed ass loads more...as does that ONE lingenfelter 427tt...the guy payed well over 150,000 for it...and it got those times on...SLICKS...
it makes no #$%#ing difference where the cars were made you #$%#ing simps
I think you guys are all missing the point. This is a cool car that has some nostalgia to it. The 421 was a great engine from the 60's that powered many Pontiacs, mostly the Catalinas. I can not think of any stock Japanese car that could beat this, but I am sure there are some Jap tuners that could do it. I am anything but a fan of 95% of Japanese cars, but people got to be realistic and not just post absurd comments. I like to crack on those silly looking FWD sport compacts as much as the next American, but come on. Just respect a cool concept like this and cross your fingers that they might build one of these huge displacement small block cars(but obviously not in an F-body anymore).
I think this car is anything but stock. with 90hp/liter with an american engine, it obviously has turbo's and/or superchargers. Even though GTO's and TA's are my favorite American cars, I prefer Japanese cars over American cars every day of the week. I salute the Supra, the Rx-7, the Skyline, the NSX, the 350z, The SC430 etc.... Oh I know the Ligenfelter Corvette will beat these, not to mention the Hennessey Viper, but answer me this. Who the #$%# cares? will your car beat a Supra? can you make a Supra fast enough to beat this Firebird prototype? yes. Are their Japanese prototype cars with equal pimpness and blazing speed potential? yes. So get off your American muscle soapbox and realize that Americans do not make the best cars in the world. Other people make cars just as fast but they do it with more efficiency, smaller engines, more hp/liter, better gas mileage, better reliabilty, better design, better this, better that, better better better.
Of course it will
This Pontiac vs Mclaren F1 would be great. I mean 625hp vs. 627hp <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/amazed.gif"></A>