The 350mph Supercar

Discussion in 'Technical' started by ajzahn, Oct 28, 2004.

  1. A 2,000-horsepower, shape-changing, 350mph missile

    By Eric Adams / Popular Science


    It’s a mind-bendingly fast supercar: a 2,000-horsepower, shape-changing, 350mph missile. Outrageous? Sure, but cracking the 300mph barrier is inevitable, made possible by new technology and extreme aerodynamics. “Such a car will have to be substantially longer to better control the air flow and high-speed stability,” says Steve Saleen, creator of the racecarlike Saleen S7. As the driving environment changes, the car will morph into different configurations—longer for straight-line driving, shorter for curves—and alter wing shapes to modulate downforce. Driving at 350 mph will be far beyond the skills of most drivers, so active suspension, active steering aids, and collision-avoidance systems—the latter imported from the aircraft industry—will ensure that drivers’ reaction times won’t result in accidents. With such performance and versatility, the car will be a thrill at any speed.

    8 steps to 350 MPH:

    1. Power 2,000hp engine for performance driving, plus a hybrid electric for around town


    2. Contact Gel-filled tires made from new composites prevent disintegration at high speeds

    3. Control Manual transmission controlled by paddle shifters on steering wheel

    4. Stability Active suspension analyzes road ahead and adjusts for ride and downforce

    5. Safety Electronic steering and braking aids augment reaction to turns and other vehicles

    6. Awareness Sensors detect obstacles in road ahead, displaying graphics on head-up display

    7. Adaptation Morphing technology stretches car at top speeds and shortens it for turns

    8. Weight Structural composites eliminate need for bracing, minimizing overall weight
     
  2. That is pretty sweet, great car for the salt flats I guess. Amazing engineering non the less.
     
  3. i bought one
     
  4. 3
     
  5. ... if you are the Sultan of Brunei. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  6. I read that article a while ago, very interesting. They also talked with a race car designer, and asked him what he'd come up with if he could build the absolute fastest racer ever (assuming a human driver wasn't a limiting factor).
     
  7. sounds awesome but more like a dream than reality
     
  8. Crack the 300 mph barrier? A stock bodied firebird accomplished this long long ago.
     
  9. No more a stock-bodied car than a NASCAR, but still a far cry from the land rockets that are setting speed records.
     
  10. its great to lay out figures and ideas.. its better to detail how you plan to achieve them.
     
  11. Uhhhh no ass face, it's an official record, not nonsense dribbled by dumbasses like you on an online forum.

    Kugel & LeFevers '92 Firebird ran an average speed of 301.709mph with a top speed of 307.468mph and became the became the first stock-bodied passenger vehicle to exceed 300 mph.

    It runs a twin turbo 368ci Chevy small block.

     
  12. Stock bodied? Really?

    Just take a look at the pic! <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  13. just look at the record you stupid bastard.

    No wonder everyone hates you.
     
  14. tbh it doesn't look like a stock body to me... but it probably means something different to what i think
     
  15. Looks like it might be the stock shell with aerodynamic enhancements to me.
     
  16. This quote says everything:
    "it doesn't look like a stock body to me... but it probably means something different to what i think"

    To me the definition of stock is that nothing has been changed. (Hence it is stock)

    Apart from that discrepancy, nothing in what you have said implies that you are dealing with a revolutionary car. I suppose that, according to what you have said, I could take a stock Honda Civic, strap a Saturn 5 rocket onto the back, point it horizontal to the ground and say "Look, I made the fastest production car ever!" (Besides, it has the stock body!)
    Top fuel drag racing cars run blocks roughly the same size, and reach higher speeds than that in under five seconds!
    Wow! A 'stock car' has gone over 300 mph!? The world must be coming to an end!
     
  17. It isn't possible to fit a F-1 engine (the engine that on saturn was used in a cluster of five in the first stage) onto a stock Honda Civic, but if you fitted a smaller rocket engine to a car, made 100 of those you can say that you have the fastest production car.

    An empty F-1 engine has a weight of over 8 metric tons, and it produces almost 7 million newtons of thrust when running. It has a specific impulse of 260 seconds which means that it consumes 2600 kg of propellant per second. But say that you were to build a 30 ton car, 10 tons for the car and engine and 20 tons of fuel its acceleration would be outstanding. If we exclude the aerodynamic drag the acceleration from standstill would be 233 m/s^2 (24g) and increasing to 700 m/s^2 (71g). If we assume that lower weight of the car equals out with the aerodynamic drag the car would at the 7.5 seconds it has fuel reach a top speed of 6300 km/h.

    "Stock" classes usually imply that the stock chassi is used, perhaps also the engine, but modified. On these high speed cars typically weights are added and the drag is minimized, both aerodynamic and rolling.
     
  18. #18 catphish, Oct 31, 2004
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    Holy shit why do you even come to the technical forum? I’ve seen your posts and you’re a raging retard.

    Top fuel engines are relatively small. They are 500ci big blocks. In some cases there is production DOHC V-8s of 5 liters or less that are physically larger than these race engines.

    Nothing I have said implies that you are dealing with a revolutionary car?

    Funny because this car HOLDS THE RECORD, let me repeat that for your stupid ass, HOLDS THE RECORD. For the first stock bodied vehicle to exceed 300mph.

    Not Supra, Not Skyline, and not Civic. F-I-R-E-B-I-R-D.

    Is that clear enough for your stupid ass?

    What some dumbass kid on the internet thinks is a stock bodied car is totally irrelevant because the vehicle is officially recognized as holding the record by the sanctioning body that holds the events.

    http://www.bpeheads.com/firebird.htm
    http://popularmechanics.com/automotive/motor_sports/2000/1/pontiac_bonneville_salt_flats/index.phtml
     
  19. #19 MrMortigi, Oct 31, 2004
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    My point is that the reason for this thread was to define a car that could break the 350mph barrier (not 300), and was also capable of being an everyday car. By the look of it, that is not what that Pontiac Firebird is.
    Oh, and once you grow up, you will realize you don't have to be an ass about everything.
     
  20. My point is you're retarded and nobody gives a shit what you think, say, or do.
     
  21. "What some dumbass kid on the internet thinks is a stock bodied car is totally irrelevant because the vehicle is officially recognized as holding the record by the sanctioning body that holds the events."

    Yeah, and back to what I said. This car is no more stock-bodied than a NASCAR, which means that the record means WHOOPTY #$%#ING SHIT. That a governing body would qualify such a car as stock-bodied effectively makes their little competition farcical. It's pretty easy to give out qualification and awards to whomever you want when you're making up the rules.

    Piehole. Shut.
     
  22. False.

    When you are ignorant of the rules regulating what "stock body" is, you really shouldn't draw comparisons to a #$%#ing nascar.
     
  23. Told
     
  24. Didnt Lingenfelter also create a Newer gen firebird that almost did it. It made it to like 298 or something like that.
     
  25. can you tell me more about this Firebird. Every little detail! I heard about this and asked around, but no one knew about it?
     

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