This car is not the best...

Discussion in '2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT' started by bmwm3gtr200, Mar 18, 2003.

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    "It can't get three kids to soccer practice while carrying grocceriecs, and run reliably forever. It can't go off road, can't drive around town with little thought, and there is no place that you will be able to legaly test this car besides a track. So you can choose between a car that is fun around town, not a headache and a half to drive, can carry what ever you need, and give you the thrills you want at any time, not just on the track. Or you can get the 800 tt, and only enjoy it at the track, and not be able to do anything else."



    Dude, that applies like to damn near every car in your own personal top 10 list. Speaking of which, how can anyone prove your list is wrong? It's your own personal list, and was made subjectively. Don't tell me pure science and technical specifications determined that list.

    If you don't care what 12-year-olds think, why the hell are you even here talking with them? Does that make any sense whatsoever? It makes perfect sense if all you want is a flame war. And we have a word for people like that. "Troll".
     
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    You're absolutely right. In fact, I should probably go and ask the next Edonis owner I see how often he/she takes the kids to school in the car, or how often it is used for groceries.

    Do you say a blender is poorly engineered when compared to a stove because it can't heat your food? No, of course not, it wasn't designed to do so. Taking that in mind, how can you say any car is better than the 800tt because it can "get three kids to soccer practice" when that was not its intention?

    Where the hell do you get off determining how much I "respect" cars? Performance is what makes driving invigorating, what actually makes it fun. If I need to go off road I'll get an SUV (none of the cars you listed filled that criteria that you seem to think is important enough to list, and several cars don't fit any). If I want good gas mileage, or to transport people I'll get an economy car and a minivan, respectively.

    "can't drive around town with little thought"

    Would that necessarily be a good thing? I certainly don't mind the challenge of keeping my car on the road, even in the day to day grind. Just because it's not what you're looking for, doesn't mean everyone shares your opinion. Even if the 800tt was fairly competant off road, or could carry 10 people, it's not likely I would ever opt to do either. By your logic every car you listed is better than a Formula 1 car, and a Civic is better than the Enzo.
     
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    "It is a fast car, who gives a #$%#. It can't get three kids to soccer practice while carrying grocceriecs, and run reliably forever. It can't go off road, can't drive around town with little thought, and there is no place that you will be able to legaly test this car besides a track. So you can choose between a car that is fun around town, not a headache and a half to drive, can carry what ever you need, and give you the thrills you want at any time, not just on the track. "


    BUT THEN "YOU are not even looking at what a car is supposed to do"

    THE 800TT WAS MADE FOR HANDLING AND ACCELERATING




    "It is a fast car, who gives a #$%#. It can't get three kids to soccer practice while carrying grocceriecs, and run reliably forever. It can't go off road, can't drive around town with little thought, and there is no place that you will be able to legaly test this car besides a track. So you can choose between a car that is fun around town, not a headache and a half to drive, can carry what ever you need, and give you the thrills you want at any time, not just on the track. "



    YOU COULD SAY THE EXACT SAME THING ABOUT THESE CARS:

    1. McLaren F1
    2. Ferrari Enzo
    3. Pagani Zonda C12S
    5. Porsche GT2 996



    (BTW, the 800tt is not the best car, it is however one of the best accelerating and handling cars though.)
     
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    Actually you didn't look at everything either, or the performance catagory would've come up when comparing the 800tt to the volvo and model T, but You never did that.
     
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    We never finished.
     
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    You are absolutely correct also. Yoiu shouldn't sit there and compare two cars designed to do completely different things. I just got tired of people saying, "This is the best car," or implying that when it isn't.

    I too will get some other car if I want different things. For performance I would get a McLaren F1 LM, experience I would get an e30 M3, daily user a Volvo 240 Turbo Wagon, gas mileage a Schwin, luxury would have to be a Rolls Royce(Any), and to advance the industry I would have to go with BMW's Hydrogen powered 7 series(They do it better than anyone else at this point).
     
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    "You shouldn't sit there and compare two cars designed to do completely different things. I just got tired of people saying, "This is the best car," or implying that when it isn't."


    I don't think anyone here ever said, "the 800tt is the best car in the world." B/C It is not.

    Maybe Blueys sig. implied it, though.

    But like i've said, the 800tt is One of the best accelerating and handling cars in the world, and like i've said (which you know agree to) it should be compared Only with other Best accelerating and handling cars.

    Hopefully a strange comparison like this won't occur again, but it was an, ok, 11 page thread. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    This topic got a bit carried away when someone started talking about taking their three kids to soccer practise in a 800TT...

    This topic should be: "This car is not the best...at transporting kids to soccer practise".
    No, seriously this car isn't the best (performance wise) anymore since the 1000TT upgrade is finally availible at Hennessey.

     
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    It's still one of the best performing cars though. (at this website)
     
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    Check out the Speed 12 thread, it maybe as fast as the 1000 tt!!
     
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    Maybe around a twisty track, but in a straight line the 1000TT would beat it any day.
     
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    ?? if you could give a link, that would be great.
    Because i went there and didn't find anything supporting that? <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/confused.gif"></A>
     
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    u said the same thing in the other Thread...?
     
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    Oh yeah I did, didn't I? I guess since no one responded I tried my luck elsewhere.
     
  16. #166 1426 cid, Jun 14, 2003
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    Well, you didn't have to post that one article twice about the srt10 not handling bad. I mean, that's like the Worst article to use, to prove the srt10 can handle.

    Who ever tested the car there, is a bad driver. Compared to the MT tested the srt10 at, it's .6 seconds faster to 60. Much faster in the 1/4, doing 11.7
    And MT got a new Record for braking of 97ft from 60.

    IMO, if you want to prove vipers can handle, this is one of the best links:

    http://members.aol.com/Pdl2thmdl/table1.html

    Considering, there the GTS beat Every car on the track. (including a porsche 911T, and ferrari 355)

    (if you're going to defend the viper, do it right)

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    LOL
     
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    "U have a V-10 Viper and U STILL can't keep up with my I4 Supra TT "ricer"????"


    ?ummm... I don't know of many supras that can out accel. a viper.

    Also, i don't think there's such a thing as a I4 supra.

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    Only I4 TT Supras I know of are in the JGTC series.
     
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    it still comes down to the Driver to see really wins...?
     
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    I think it is fantastic that there is a Model T on this guys top ten list. There is definitly one my list as well. To be honest, i hate this car. I hate every car that people with very little knowledge about engines say is the best car on the road. This Viper being one of the prime examples, which is why i can't stand it. I hate this car so much that if i were offered 1 Model T or 10 of these Vipers, I would choose the Vipers just so i could sell them and by more Model Ts. I own a 1926 T and doubt very few people who like this Viper know how to drive a Model T, let alone keep it running. My hat goes off to the guy who has this list.
     
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    MY top 10:1.Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette.2.Callaway C12 Corvette.3.Lingenfelter 750TT Corvette.4.Saleen S7.5.Saleen Ford Mustang.6.Dodge Viper 800TT.7.Porsche Carrera GT.8.Mclaren F1.9.Ferrari Enzo.10.Monte Carlo SS.
     
  23. #173 Viper Man666, Jul 21, 2003
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    This is the best car list
    1.Dodge Viper 1000tt
    2.Dodge Viper 800tt
    3.Dodge Viper GTSR
    4.Dodge Viper SRT-10
    5.Dodge Viper GTS
    6.Dodge Viper RT/10
    7.Viper Comp. Coupe
    8.Viper GTS-W To see pics go to www.Dodge-Vipers.com
    9.House of power Viper
    10.Dodge Challenger (preferrably Plum crazy w/ silver stripes)
     
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    take it your a viper fan hmm...

    1. MY CAR! (1986 RED Magna, Red always goes Faster)
    2. SVS Dodge Stryker Viper TT
    3. Dodge Hennessey Series
    4. Dodge Viper(RT-10, GTS, GTSR ect.)
    5. Corvette
    6. Toyota Supra
    7. Holden Monaro
    8. Toyota Celica
    9. Subaru WRX
    10. Wiggles BIG RED car!
     

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