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Discussion in 'Classic Cars' started by 944turb0, Jul 18, 2006.
Because they were dirty or because they were Porsches?
some real spectacular barnyards.
also sounds pretty much like a barn car story to me:
Over the weekend I was invited along with our very own Mr. Shaughnessy on one of his Ferrari Barn Find Extravaganzas. We left San Diego Sunday afternoon headed north to the San Francisco bay area, after a few short hours of sleep we staged at P.ottis and company in Berkly and than headed into the city. Tom had to go in ahead of me to pick up the parts in Burlingame than I followed behind with my truck and 32 foot trailer through the city and the steep hills San Francisco is so famous for. The cars were located in a basement of a little row house just outside Golden Gate Park and anyone who has ever gone to the Golden Gate bridge has driven past this place without even knowing the cars were there. When I arrived to the nondescript location and entered the garage door barely wide enough for a car to fit through I was astonished to find a large basement filled with Ferraris and a couple Muscle cars. Tom had already purchased the cars and all we were there to do was pick them up and get out of the city before traffic closed in and we were stuck there with a couple oversized trucks and trailers. The score was a 250 PF Cab and two series three GTEs, although both of the GTEs were quite rough and neglected the PF Cab was in good shape and a restoration was started but never finished. Just when you think there are no more cars out there more pop up, I guess now the GTE parts store will be once again open for business <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
Holy shit! All those Ferraris were garaged in one of those shitty row houses? I probably drove past there before. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/sad.gif"></A>
LOL at the painting against the wall in the 2nd pic.
Portuguese Barn Find: Fact or Fiction?
Huge collections like the one in Portugal don't just happen. Cars are accumulated by someone with a purpose
By Tom Cotter/Sportscarmerket.com
One day this January, I received at least ten forwarded email attachments to a web site that featured photos of an eclectic collection of old cars in a decaying building. For the next week it seemed the web was literally blanketed with these images, each giving a similar story:
"Imagine moving into an old farmhouse in the Portuguese countryside, and, while walking around "the lower 40" of your new investment, you come across an old building. Curious as to what may be inside, you pry open the rusted door and for the first time in decades, one of the largest hordes of old cars ever discovered is exposed to sunlight."
I didn't believe that story for a moment.
Huge collections of cars don't just happen. Cars are accumulatedsometimes lovingly, sometimes notby someone with a purpose. I was sure this collection was not assembled by accident; nobody would simply sell an old farm and fail to mention to the new owners the stash of old cars in the barn.
I decided to investigate. I searched the web and ultimately came to an English language dead end at the Mazda Miata Club Norway web site. But I kept going, sending emails in English and hoping that some kind recipient would take a few moments to answer some questions. All indications were that the cars were hidden somewhere in Portugal, so that's where I focused my investigation.
Through a Cobra buddy, Don Silawski of Washington, DC, I contracted with a Portuguese translator, Clara Dixon. Clara would be my tour guide and try to unearth some of the naked truth regarding this huge stash. Clara also checked the Internet for news stories that may have been written in Portuguese newspapers about the cars. I was beginning to feel like a CIA sleuth
I must admit that for me, a lifelong barn-finder, a collection this large would be the discovery of a lifetime. My 15-year-old son, Brian, even tried to convince me to hop a flight to Portugal to see if I could actually find the collection myself.
I was eventually able to contact the photographer who was contracted by the cars' owner to shoot the photographs that would ultimately appear on millions of car-guy computer monitors beginning on January 20.
THE STORY BEHIND THE STORY
Manuel Menezes Morais shot the photos, but he was sworn to secrecy about the cars' location and the owner's name. However, he was able to obtain permission from the elusive owner to give me the following information:
The owner of the cars was a car dealer in the 1970s and 1980s, and decided to save the more interesting cars that came through his doors. When the barn was full, he padlocked and "soldered" the doors shut. (Perhaps welding was too permanent.)
Web sites varied on the number of cars: 58, 100, and 180 were speculated. According to Morais, there are 180 cars in the barn.
And, aw shucks, none of the cars is for sale.
So, what's in there?
I KNOW I've driven past it. I've been over the bridge a bagillion times. That's what's so tricky about these finds, is they're always just right there in front of tons of people waiting for someone to find them.
^^Yeah, but how does Shaughnessy finds all these cars. It's amazing what he has found in his lifetime. BTW he says that he's retired now, but did this find during his retirement.
That M.SHAUGNESSY is one lucky guy
Actually he is more of an extremely hard working man.
not much, but anyway:
Christies sold motor cars to the value of $2.4 million, with the top lot of the day being the 'barn find' Bugatti 57C which more than doubled its estimate (of $300,000-400,000) at $852,500, selling to a US private buyer.
That's because it's an awesome Bugatti.
The local paper here ran an article w/ way more info on this car. I kept it at home so if anyone wants it lemme know & I'll type a summary of it (the paper's website wants $3 for archived stuff... they can stuff that)
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Tom S (and others) work like detectives.
first they check which vin-cars are missing.
then they start from scratch, lookig for the factory records and first owner and then they try to trace its history till the point where the cars got lost.
must be a real dreamjob, if you're good at it!
I would loove to do that.
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Rare Bugatti sells for $852,500.
1938 classic sat untouched for 45 years.
An auction is as much theatre as business, and the star of Christie'a auction of "Exceptional Motor Cars" was a barn find like no other barn find: a a black-and-yellow 1938 Bugatti Type 57C Atalante coupe that had been sitting untouched in a garage outside of New York City for 45 years. The car came up for auction at the end of the sale of 39 cars in a tent beside the water in Roger Sherman Baldwin Park in downtown Greenwich.
The 1938 Bugatti had belonged to John w. Straus, heir to the Macy's fortune. He had collected cars but apparently lost interest in the 1960's when the car, which combines a supercharged engine with a convertible body that was switched at a later date, was garaged with others, not to see the light of day until the family decided to put it up for sale.
Bidding for the Bugatti got off to a flying start with noted restorer Wayne Carini, owner of F40 Motorsports in Portland, Connecticut, bidding on behalf of Joe Capasso Mason, Hartford, Connecticut. Soon it came down to Carini/Capasso in house against an unidentified telephone bidder. As the price went into the financial stratosphere, the bidding turned into a bull fight, with the two sides doing everything to knock the other out. Sometimes they came back quickly with a price, sometimes they mulled the opposition's offer then delivered a steep increase in an attempt to deliver a killing blow. At times the crowd gasped and applauded following long gaps and sudden hits; at other times you could have heard a pin drop.
Finally, Capasso shook his head; the price on the floor was $775,000 and he had reached his limit. Carini, in turn, shook his head at the auctioneer, Hugh Edmeades, who after making sure they were out of it, brought the hammer down for the telephone bidder, a private American collector, to resounding applause. With Christie's 10 percent premium, the final price was $852,500, easily topping the auction house's estimate of $300,000 to $400,000. But as Edmeades said afterwards, there is no way to really value such a car in almost original condition. "A car this rare and wonderful, finds its own level," he said. "It's a rich man's hobby."
"It's sad," said John Straus' son Bill, who attended the sale. "But the time had come to move on." Straus said he remembers his father driving the Bugatti to the commuter rail station in Westchester County to catch the train to New York- and leaving it in the parking lot. "No one noticed it," he said.
Peter C.T. Elsworth, Providence Journal-Bulletin
Interesting read, thnx.
How the hell does a man lose interest for fine automobiles? <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/confused.gif"></A>
Also, driving an 57C to the train for NY sounds awesome. I'd love to travel back in time and have a look in the thirties <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>
I think a man loses interest in fine automobiles WHEN HE BECOMES A PENIS LOVING GAY HOMOSEXUAL FAGGOT WHO LOVES PENISES. I came to that conclusion by process of elimination. Since I couldn't come up with a single other answer that must be it.
People, don't you what I just [email protected]?!?! I think I'm having a heart attack
yea <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/grin.gif"></A>, but its old..
I almsot faint every single time I see that. Jesus. Imagine finding that!