Exclusive Lamborghini to debut at Frankfurt '07

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  1. #76 ajzahn, Aug 18, 2007
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    this maybe is where they got thier inspiration from:

    F-22 Raptor Cockpit

    The F-22's cockpit is one of the very first "all-glass" cockpits for tactical fighters - there are no traditional round dial, standby or dedicated gauges. It accommodates the largest range of pilots (the central 99 percent of the Air Force pilot population) of any tactical aircraft. It is the first baseline "night vision goggle" compatible cockpit, and it has designed-in growth capability for helmet-mounted systems. The canopy is the largest piece of polycarbonate formed in the world with the largest Zone 1 (highest quality) optics for compatibility with helmet-mounted systems. While functionality is critical, the F-22's cockpit design also ensures pilot safety with an improved version of the proven ACES II ejection seat and a new pilot personal equipment and life support ensemble.

    The F-22's cockpit represents a revolution over current "pilot offices", as it is designed to let the pilot operate as a tactician, not a sensor operator. Humans are good differentiators, but they are poor integrators. The F-22 cockpit lets the pilot do what humans do best, and it fully utilizes the power of the computer to do what it does best.

    Using the power of the onboard computers, coupled with the extensive maintenance diagnostics built into the F-22 by the maintainers, that workload has been significantly reduced. The idea is to relieve pilots of the bulk of system manipulations associated with flying and allow them to do what a human does best - be a tactician.

    Aircraft startup and taxi are excellent examples of harnessing the power of the computer to eliminate workload. There are only three steps to take the F-22 from cold metal and composites to full-up airplane ready for takeoff: The pilot places the battery switch 'on,' places the auxiliary power unit switch momentarily to 'start' and then places both throttles in 'idle.' The engines start sequentially right to left and the auxiliary power unit then shuts down. All subsystems and avionics are brought on line and built-in testing checks are made. Then the necessary navigation information is loaded and even the pilot's personal preferences for avionics configuration is read and the systems are tailored to those preferences. All of this happens automatically with no pilot actions other than the three steps. The airplane can be ready to taxi in less than 30 seconds after engine start.

    Pilot/Vehicle Interface

    The GEC-built Head-Up Display (HUD) offers a wide field of view (30 degrees horizontally by 25 degrees vertically) and serves as a primary flight instrument for the pilot. The F-22's HUD is approximately 4.5 inches tall and uses standardized symbology developed by the Air Force Instrument Flight Center. It does not present information in color, but the tactical symbol set is the same that is used on the F-22's head down displays (HDDs).

    During F-22 canopy birdstrike tests, it was found that the HUD combiner glass would shatter the canopy. To solve this problem for EMD, the F-22 HUD will have a rubber buffer strip on it that will effectively shield the polycarbonate of the canopy when it flexes during a birdstrike from hitting the optical glass in the HUD and shattering. Design is also underway for a HUD that will collapse during a birdstrike, but would remain upright under all other conditions. Additionally, the team is investigating the possibility of having the HUD combiner glass laminated similar to household safety glass to preclude flying glass in the cockpit following birdstrike.

    The Integrated Control Panel (ICP) is the primary means for manual pilot data entry for communications, navigation, and autopilot data. Located under the glareshield and HUD in center top of the instrument panel, this keypad entry system also has some double click functions, much like a computer mouse for rapid pilot access/use.

    There are six liquid crystal display (LCD) panels in the cockpit. These present information in full color and are fully readable in direct sunlight. LCDs offer lower weight and less size than the cathode ray tube (CRT) displays used in most current aircraft. The lower power requirements also provide a reliability improvement over CRTs. The two Up-Front Displays (UFDs) measure 3"x4" in size and are located to the left and right of the ICP. The UFDs are used to display Integrated Caution/Advisory/Warning (ICAW) data, communications/navigation/identification (CNI) data and serve as the Stand-by Flight instrumentation Group and Fuel Quantity Indicator (SFG/FQI).

    The Stand-by Flight Group is always in operation and, although it is presented on an LCD display, it shows the basic information (such as an artificial horizon) the pilot needs to fly the aircraft. The SFG is tied to the last source of power in the aircraft, so if everything else fails, the pilot will still be able to fly the aircraft.

    The Primary Multi-Function Display (PMFD) is a 8"x8" color display that is located in the middle of the instrument panel, under the ICP. It is the pilot's principal display for aircraft navigation (including showing waypoints and route of flight) and Situation Assessment (SA) or a "God's-eye view" of the entire environment around (above, below, both sides, front and back) the aircraft.

    Three Secondary Multi-Function Displays (SMFDs) are all 6.25" x 6.25" and two of them are located on either side of the PMFD on the instrument panel with the third underneath the PMFD between the pilot's knees. These are used for displaying tactical (both offensive and defensive) information as well as non-tactical information (such as checklists, subsystem status, engine thrust output, and stores management).

    Integrated Caution, Advisory and Warning System (ICAW)

    To reduce pilot workload in flight, the F-22 incorporates the uniquely designed integrated caution, advisory and warning system (ICAW). This system's messages normally appear on the 3-by-4 inch up-front display just below the glare shield. A total of 12 individual ICAW messages can appear at one time on the up-front display and additional ones can appear on sub pages of the display.

    More than two years of detail design by pilots and engineers has gone into the filtering logic of the ICAW system and extensive testing of the system was done. In addition, the success of the Army's RAH 66 Comanche helicopter's ICAW system that uses a similar filtering approach gives the F-22 team confidence in the fundamental soundness of the design.

    Two aspects of the ICAW display differentiate it from a traditional warning light panel. First, all ICAW fault messages are filtered to eliminate extraneous messages and tell the pilot specifically and succinctly what the problem is. For example, when an engine fails, the generator and hydraulic cautions normally associated with an engine being shutdown are suppressed, and the pilot is provided the specific problem in the form of an engine shutdown message.

    The second is the electronic checklist. When an ICAW message occurs, the pilot depresses the checklist push button (called a bezel button) on the bottom of the UFD and the associated checklist appears on the left hand Secondary Multi-Function Display (SMFD). This function also provides access to non-emergency checklists for display to the pilot. In addition to the visual warning on the display, the aircraft has an audio system that alerts the pilot. A Caution is indicated only by the word "caution", while a Warning is announced with the specific problem - that is, "Warning. Engine Failure".

    If multiple ICAWs occur, their associated checklists are selected by moving a pick box over the desired ICAW and depressing the checklist button. Associated checklists are automatically linked together so that if an engine failure occurs, the pilot will not only get the checklist for the engine failure procedure in-flight but also the single engine landing checklist. The pilot can also manually page through the checklists at any time from the main menu. This is particularly handy when helping a wing man work through an emergency.

    Cockpit Display Symbology

    The tactical information shown on the displays is all intuitive to the pilot-he can tell the situation around him by a glance at the screen. Enemy aircraft are shown as red triangles, friendly aircraft are green circles, unknown aircraft are shown as yellow squares, and wingmen are shown as blue F-22s. Surface-to-air missile sites are represented by pentagons (along with an indication of exactly what type missile it is) and its lethal range. In addition to shape and color, the symbols are further refined. A filled-in triangle means that the pilot has a missile firing-quality solution against the target, while an open triangle is not a firing-quality solution. The pilot has a cursor on each screen, and he can ask the aircraft's avionics system to retrieve more information. The system can determine to a 98% probability the target's type of aircraft. If the system can't make an identification to that degree, the aircraft is shown as an unknown.

    Likewise, one of the original objectives for the F-22 was to increase the percentage of fighter pilots who make "kills".

    The Inter/Intra Flight Data Link (IFDL) is one of the powerful tools that make all F-22s more capable. Each F-22 can be linked together to trade information without radio calls with each F-22s in a flight or between flight. Each pilot is then free to operate more autonomously because, for example, the leader can tell at a glance what his wing man's fuel state is, weapons remaining, and even the enemy aircraft targeted. Classical tactics based on visual "tally" (visual identification) and violent formation maneuvers that reduce the wing man to "hanging on" may have to be rethought in light of such capabilities.

    Hands-On Throttle and Stick (HOTAS)

    The F-22 features a side-stick controller (like an F-16) and two throttles that are the aircraft's primary flight controls. The GEC-built stick is located on the right console and there is a swing-out, adjustable arm rest. The stick is force sensitive and has a throw of only about one-quarter of an inch. The throttles are located on the left console. Both the stick and the throttles are high-use controls during air combat. To support pilot functional requirements, the grips include buttons and switches (that are both shape and texture coded) to control more than 60 different time-critical functions. These buttons are used for controlling the offensive (weapons targeting and release) and defensive systems (although some, like chaff and flares, can operate both automatically and manually) as well as display management.


    Previous fighter cockpits were sized to accommodate the 5th percentile to 95th percentile pilots (a range of only 90%). The F-22 cockpit is sized to accommodate the 0.5 percentile to 99.5 percentile pilots (the body size of the central 99% of the Air Force pilot population) This represents the largest range of pilots accommodated by any tactical aircraft now in service. The rudder pedals are adjustable. The pilot has 15-degree over-the-nose visibility and excellent over-the-side and aft visibility as well.


    The cockpit interior lighting is fully Night Vision Goggle (NVG) compatible, as is the exterior lighting. The cockpit panels feature extended life, self-balancing, electroluminescent (EL) edge-lit panels with an integral life-limiting circuit that runs the lights at the correct power setting throughout their life. It starts at one-half power and gradually increases the power output to insure consistent panel light intensity over time. As a result, the cockpit always presents a well-balanced lighting system to the pilot (there is not a mottled look in the cockpit). The panels produce low amounts of heat and power and are very reliable. The aircraft also has integral position and anti-collision lights (including strobes) on the wings. The low voltage electroluminescent formation lights are located at critical positions for night flight operations on the aircraft (on the forward fuselage (both sides) under the chine, on the tip of the upper left and right wings, and on the outside of both vertical stabilizers. There are similar air refueling lights on the butterfly doors that cover the air refueling receptacle.

    >>> www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-22-cockpit.htm

    maybe the Lambo press release also will read pretty much like this <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
  2. LOL, just wondering if this is going to happen to the futurte Lambo driver as well:

    Langley Air Force Base Briefing: F-22 03-041 Stuck Canopy
    Date Released: Monday, April 24, 2006
    Source: Department of Defense


    F-22 03-041 Stuck Canopy
    TSgt Robinson 1st MXG/MXQ

    • On 10 April 06 at approximately 0815 aircraft 03-041 had a Red Ball for a canopy unlock indication. Attempts to clear the problems by cycling the canopy failed. The final cycling of the canopy resulted in it being in the down and locked position. The canopy would not cycle up form this position trapping the pilot in the cockpit. The aircraft subsequently ground aborted.

    • Attempts to manually open the canopy were unsuccessful

    • 27th AMU consulted Lockheed Martin and the F-22A System Program Office to determine alternate methods to open the canopy and extract the pilot

    • After all maintenance options were exhausted, the canopy was cut by fire department personnel and the pilot was extracted at approximately 1315

    • Trouble-shooting of the aircraft is in work

    • Canopy replacement cost is $182,205
  3. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

    ROTFLMAO at the supposid dash board!!!!!!!

    Jeremy Clarkson was wrong when he said "It appears Lamborghini has stopped being silly." They've turned a profit 2 years straight a first in company history & they've gone to a new depth of silliness.

    Funny to because cars like the Enzo & Zonda are designed to make one feel like an "F1 pilot". Lamborghini says, hey if you're stupid enough to pay us 1.5 million you can pretend to be an F22 pilot in a Murcielago with a Knight Rider dash board & only 80 more HP than the original with an F22 nose. LOL!!!!!!

  4. ? That's the F-22 RAPTOR cockpit
  5. Pretty much, a huge ripoff of money & attention for the Frankfurt show.

    "Here are the details from a gent who was in CA:

    - The new 1.5 million dollar Lamborghini has been such a hush-hush secret. It is NOT a 'Veyron-beater' however... not even close.

    - The idea behind this 'new lambo' was to make a rare collectible (only 20 will be built). It is essentially an LP640 with some performance tweaks, and the horsepower is about 20 more than the LP640. So no... its not a 700+ hp car. What will really make it unique is the body design, which is completely different from the Murci. It is inspired by a fighter plane (eg. F-22 lightning) and will look a lot like a jet plane. So you are essentially getting a murci with an extremely unique space-aged looking 'rocketship' body, with being only one of 20 people out there with one... supposedly only available in a 'military' color. So is it worth 1.5 mil? You decide.

    - 10 for the US, and the rest overseas. All that were offered to specific owners were bought immediately. From the initial deposit, another $300,000 euros are required to ensure your purchase, then another $300,000 before it gets shipped out to you. The car is to be built/released sometime in mid-2008. The actual concept car will be revealed at the Frankfurt auto show. Even the potential owners of this car have only seen drawings can concept schematics. So no... its not the scary looking Lamborghini Alar that is being custom built from the Diablo in Argentina.

    - Question is if the car will hold its value, and possibly go up in price? With a Veyron at the same price, its hard to say, since you get a lot more value for the buck with the Veyron. But then again only 20 of these 'Super-Murci's' will be built... vs. 300 Veyrons. I asked why they didn't want to make say, 40 of these cars, and they said that they never expected that these 1.5 mil collectibles would sell so well... and so quickly."

  6. Probably a declassified version the public gets to see. I doubt if anyone other than pilots & other military personel see the real advanced version of the F22's cockpit.
  7. SO what purpose does the FFX have?
    Stand in a garage of a very rich person, who is allowed to take it for a drive once a year?
  8. Was that about the same time he prefered a Lambo over a Ferrari?
  9. The FXX is used by 20 Ferrari clients to ACTUALLY TEST DRIVE & TRACK the car to provide information & testing results for future Ferrari supercars.

    Its actually used for something. Everyone knows the next Ferrari supercar will come from the FXX project.
  10. LOL.....................Right
  11. You do know he bought a Gallardo Spyder right?
  12. Nope.

    I've only heard Clarkson call the 430 maybe the best car EVER. 430 coupe or spyder & the proof is on you tube.

  13. And then he goes out and buys a Lamborghini. Funny huh?
  14. Yeah, but he still bought a Gallardo Spyder over the 430 Spyder now didnt he.
  15. Someone use the ban-hammer on that guy.
  16. designed to make the driver feel like an F1 racecar driver? lol, does the aura of Schumi sends vibes through their spines? does his soul and skill try to become one with the driver's? lol, sure.

    and how is the the Enzo supposed to make the driver feel like a racecar driver? with an F1 tranny that uber slow compared to F1 cars? or with a bunch of lights on the steering wheel?

    lets see, Enzo with 650 hp and 399 ( everone knows its more) units sell for 1 million. 660 hp+ lambo with a very unique interior and exterior and 20 units (and you were the one raging on about how Ferrari customers what their cars unique) cant sell for 1+ million?
  17. shut up please.
  18. FNAF forever is hilarious
  19. lambornima and FNAF are always good fro some laughs
  20. I bet it'll be a fatass
  21. I wonder if they can keep it under 1750kg...
  22. LOL!

    Thats ferrari marketing bs. What can an amateur driver do better than an experienced professional test driver?

    Both Ferrari and Lambo try to squeze as much money out of rich idiots with "special versions". Its always some special edition, limited production, high tech car with some sily excuse for its existence, but that excuse never is racing.
  23. LOL!

    Thats ferrari marketing bs. What can an amateur driver do better than an experienced professional test driver?

    Both Ferrari and Lambo try to squeze as much money out of rich idiots with "special versions". Its always some special edition, limited production, high tech car with some sily excuse for its existence, but that excuse never is racing.
  24. How many Ferrari's does he own? 5? 10?
  25. Not true.

    Why would they use a professional driver for the development of the car when the car is going to be bought by & used by amateur enthusiasts, regular everyday people & the few posers that will eventually get their hands on 1. Ferrari is just letting their fans participate in the development of the car.

    FXX has purpose.

    This new Lambo doesn't. And this shouldn't surprise any of you. I tried to warn you guys way back when I told you Lamborghini would rehash & produce pointless after pointless edition of the Gallardo the Murcielago & I told this board Lamborghini would in fact pull some sort of publicity stunt at the 430S's debut. Its so sad & obvious they are trying so hard to be Ferrari.

    Its a write up about that on Italiaspeed right now.

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