Fastest passenger planes in history

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  1. Didn't surprise me <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>

    Unlike the Concorde, the Tu-144 was a strategic bomber concept modified to civilian use. You know the Sukhoi T-4? Look at it. The shape, the delta wing, the aspect ratio, the canards and the engines. Then look at the Tu-144...

    Imagine that Boeing's entry to the B-1A program was equipped with seats. Then change the name of the country and the manufacturer.

    Gotta love the Soviets.
     
  2. What? No. The Tu-144 was one of the most famous cases of industrial espionage in history. They stole the Concorde designs (but the Concorde designers were given warning, so they changed the designs slightly, this is why the Tu-144 needed canards).
     
  3. #5 CitroenSM, Jul 13, 2014
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    The Boeing 2707 was to be an American challenger to the Concorde and TU-144. The 2707 was to have a cruise speed of Mach 3 making it fastest SST on the market. it was however scraped because of cost and market issues.

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    !The Boeing 2707 was developed as the first American supersonic transport (SST). After winning a competition for a government-funded contract to build an American SST, Boeing began development at its facilities in Seattle, Washington. The design emerged as a very large aircraft with seating for 250 to 300 passengers and cruise speeds in the range of Mach 3. This made it much larger and significantly faster than competing designs like the Concorde.

    The SST was the topic of considerable concern within and outside the aviation industry. From the start the airline industry had noted that the economics of the design were questionable, concerns that were only partially addressed during development. Outside the field, the entire SST concept was the subject of considerable negative press, centered on the issue of sonic booms and effects on the ozone layer.

    A key design feature of the 2707 was its use of a swing wing planform. During development the required weight and size of this mechanism continued to grow, forcing the team to start over using a conventional delta wing. Rising costs and the lack of a clear market led to its cancellation in 1971 before two prototypes had been completed."

    More : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_2707
     
  4. So this U.S. SST would have been the fastest. Kinda dumb that they didn't build it
     
  5. Kinda smart that they didn't
     
  6. That's commonly stated, but its not really clear that this is true. Certainly there is evidence that some subsystems may have been copied (especially the braking systems and engine control). However, if the high-level Tu-144 design was based off a stolen Concorde design, it is quite weird to think that both the Tu-144 program launch and first flight occurred before the Concorde. It's also quite odd that the French would be interested in taking pictures of the canards at Le Bourget (indeed, the espionage seemed to go both ways).
     
  7. #9 nappyjb37, Jul 15, 2014
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    Fun fact! The iconic design of the 747, the bulge produced by placing the flight crew a level above the passengers, was the result of American and European SST projects (the upper-level of the 747 originally contained no passenger seats). Early in the project it was thought that subsonic air travel would become obsolete, but that subsonic air cargo would remain a robust market indefinitely. Thus, Boeing placed the pilots and flight deck in a location where they would not interfere with a front cargo door, assuming most airlines would want to retrofit their 747s for cargo service.
     
  8. That list was not accurate.
     
  9. I was surprised by #3 but not #1 and #2
     

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