HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

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    Stand by for action: the $200,000 Monaro
    By Joshua Dowling
    The Sydney Morning Herald
    Friday June 7 2002

    Holden's special vehicle division is secretly working on a Porsche-priced super-coupe.
    Holden's performance car partner, Holden Special Vehicles, is developing a road-going Monaro-based supercar to rival Europe's finest. And, at an anticipated $200,000, it will have an exotic pricetag to match.

    Sources within Holden liken the secret project to Porsche's limited run of million-dollar Grand Tourer sports cars. Drive understands only 100 examples would be built by hand.

    The car would be capable of up to 300kmh and accelerate faster than a Lamborghini. It would have unique body panels, a high-powered engine and a wider stance to improve its high-speed stability and cornering ability. This computer illustration is a guide as to how wild the car could look.

    It is believed HSV wanted to build the cars this year, its 15th anniversary, but overwhelming demand for the current coupe has delayed the project. According to the source, a release date of "some time next year" is now likely.

    It is understood HSV is now in the final stages of preparing the business case for such a vehicle. The expense of unique body panels and a wider track would be enormous.

    HSV's business plan must also address the matter of how many people would buy a Holden for the price of a Porsche.

    HSV hinted at plans to develop a super-performance arm of its empire when it unveiled the high-powered HRT Maloo. The car, with modified panels and a lowered roof, was called a "concept only" but was a big clue to HSV's future direction.

    The Maloo's 6.2-litre Chevrolet V8 from the Callaway Corvette is expected to power the Monaro super-coupe, although the car almost certainly won't be called a Monaro. Historically, HSVs have not worn the same badge as their Holden donor cars.

    When contacted this week, HSV refused to comment. However, HSV has said in the past that a supercar was not beyond the realm of possibility as it aimed to expand the brand.

    HSV has long been considered Holden's performance partner, in the same way as the – M badge is to BMW and AMG is to Mercedes.

    It is understood HSV wants to move to the super-performance level, having recorded healthy profits with the most successful Commodore to date.

    Holden has recently appointed senior executives to key positions within HSV, possibly to pave the way for a significant expansion.

    Rival Ford released a high-performance T-Series range two years ago but the initial vehicles were not deemed a threat to HSV.

    However, reports of more powerful versions of the next Falcon (see separate story) are believed to have prompted HSV to find new ground.

    Meanwhile, HSV is building 20 coupes a day at its Melbourne factory – and still there is a two-month waiting list. Remarkably, the maker claims that the arrival of the coupe has not dented HSV sedan sales.

    The $100,000 flagship 300kW GTS accounts for one-third of coupe orders – and so far only two buyers of those built have – deleted the rear wing.
     
  2. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    I don't think a HSV fan would have the money to buy a $200000 car. People with that much money would be looking for a car with more class and a brand with a different image.
     
  3. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    yer standard.
     
  4. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    hmmm seems a nice idea<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    Lets see what I could get for around 200k.

    Well the Porsche 911 GT3 sells for 224k. One of the best handling and braking cars in the world and 0-100km/h in less than 5 seconds.

    Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec. Over 300kw (yes thats what I said), AWD, exceptional Braking and handling, 0-100kmh and 400 metres in low 4's and 12s respectively, and all for around 150k.

    Dodge Viper ACR. Around 150k base price when converted to US $$. 10,000 for a RHD conversion, a few more bob for importing and taxes and tarrifs added, theres 200k better spent than a Holden IMO.

    TVR Cerbera and Tuscan. The red Rose package for the Cerbera 4.5 puts its power to 440bhp (330kw) and weighing only 1100kg! 1/4 miles in the 11s and 0-100km/h in under 4 seconds. Price is around 50,000 english pounds. Tuscan also about 45,000 pommy pounds, ultra rare (unlike a bloody holden) and light weighing 1100kg.

    Corvette Z06. I know it is GM but I don't care. Who could argue with it's performance? It is probably one fo the only GM cars I would think about keeping. Around 50grand US, import taxes and extra like the viper 10,000 RHD conversion and your looking at not much more than 150grand.

    All of these cars are nearly or over 300km/h sports cars too. GT3 is rated at 302km/h top speed. It has high gear ratios as it acclerates slower and it doenst have that much torque either.
    Take that speed limiter off the Nissan and it's said to get to 190mph, or 306km/h.
    Viper? Well 192mph for the GTS. One could only think an increase of power & torque and a decrease of weight would help propell higher top speeds.
    TVRs bunch are all over 300km/h rated. Tuscan S is 190mph and Cerbera 4.5 is 195 for the standard, and probably 200mph (320km/h) for the Red Rose.
    Corvette is rated at 175mph which is a out 280km/h. I have read in some american magazines they got it upto and even a slight bit over 180mph. I would beleive it too, so say 290km/h isnt out of the question. But who really needs to do 300km/h anyway?

    On the same token I wish HSV the best of luck. They are attempting to crack into the most competitive and lucritive market in the world of the automotive indistry. If they are as sucessful as they anticipate I can only see this as a positive for Australia and the Aus auto industry.
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  6. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BaRRa</i>
    <b>I don't think a HSV fan would have the money to buy a $200000 car. People with that much money would be looking for a car with more class and a brand with a different image.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Yeah I reckon there would be a few...people said the same thing about the 100K GTS. In one of my Street Commodores magazines there is a guy who supposedly spent $140,000 doing up a VT Clubsport, so there is obviously going to be a few people I think.<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    But will there be enough to make the development costs worth it?
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BaRRa</i>
    <b>But will there be enough to make the development costs worth it?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Depends on sales I guess.<!-- Signature -->
     
  9. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Holden Nut</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BaRRa</i>
    <b>But will there be enough to make the development costs worth it?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Depends on sales I guess.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    That is why I don't think Holden will develop this car for production. It would be too much of a gamble when they are already on top of the sales charts.
    Aren't they making one to race in the Nations Cup?
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BaRRa</i>
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    <b>But will there be enough to make the development costs worth it?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Depends on sales I guess.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    That is why I don't think Holden will develop this car for production. It would be too much of a gamble when they are already on top of the sales charts.
    Aren't they making one to race in the Nations Cup?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Yeah ya never know. I hope they do put it into production, would be good to see a locally built car from either Ford or Holden that had Lamborghini like performance. I think they are making one to race in the Nations Cup but I haven't read much about it.<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    well i guess same for ford theyre still tryin to break the barrier they set on 1999 for 0-60 in 15 minutes and 1/4 in an hour and a half
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from WakkaWu</i>
    <b>well i guess same for ford theyre still tryin to break the barrier they set on 1999 for 0-60 in 15 minutes and 1/4 in an hour and a half</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Nice one buddy, good to see the level of maturity in these forums is so high.
     
  13. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    One question: who's gonna buy? It's clear that only a fanatic with botomless bank-account would buy this car. After all, I expect people with that kinda money to be more logical in spending them...<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    hang about. HSV's cars are limited at the moment because of the chassis they are based on HSV do a world class job transforming the existing chassis into what they are underneath their cars.

    And HSV (not Holden) costing 200 large is going to have it's own HSV chassis or at least a great base model. But at 200 large, the only way HSV will sell them is with a fully specific designed chassis.

    That'll fix steering feel, handling and they can work on the weight from there. Best of luck if you ask me. But only if they come up with a new chassis.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 1q2w3e</i>
    <b>hang about. HSV's cars are limited at the moment because of the chassis they are based on HSV do a world class job transforming the existing chassis into what they are underneath their cars.

    And HSV (not Holden) costing 200 large is going to have it's own HSV chassis or at least a great base model. But at 200 large, the only way HSV will sell them is with a fully specific designed chassis.

    That'll fix steering feel, handling and they can work on the weight from there. Best of luck if you ask me. But only if they come up with a new chassis.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Only if they come up with a whole new design, then the PERHAPS can sell it... If they base the car on the exsisting ones, they'll be #$%#ed!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from 1q2w3e</i>
    <b>yer standard. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    ???<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

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    agreeing with ya chief
     
  18. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    go HSV then they need somethin good.












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  19. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from lamboistight89</i>
    <b>go HSV then they need somethin good.












    I love Jennifer!!!!!!!!<IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"></b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->HSV already make awesome cars, this one will just be even better hopefully if its made.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <b>I don't think a HSV fan would have the money to buy a $200000 car. People with that much money would be looking for a car with more class and a brand with a different image.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    i felt like quoting you for no reason, i just wanted to know where you got that avatar from because that is one of the coolest ones that i have ever seen.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Sorry I haven't replied earlier, trial HSC exams..........
    I made it using an avi editor and extracted the frames and used a gif editor to make the pic.<!-- Signature -->
     
  21. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    It's time to buy a new car, and you're in the market for a big saloon. You've got about $200,000 to spend. You could go for the new Benz E55 with 350kW, 0-100km/h in 4.5~, and Mercedes build quality. Or an M5. Or you could buy a $200k taxi with 2-doors, and more power than its built to handle. Yeah right. Dream on, HSV.
     
  22. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    I like this mentality how people seem to think that Europe is the only place capabale of making class sports cars. By the way did u know Mercedes makes for a good taxi in Israel?
     
  23. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    hey, Impreza is a Legend, BEWARE of JAP cars hey, where do u think Subaru's come from, hold on, don't tell me, i got it , Japan. If u think WRX's are good then you have more problems thatn a Holden supporter, you proably are a holden supporter. The only decent rally car is Lancer EVO VII, any thing less is crap
     
  24. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    What makes them better?
     
  25. Re: HSV working on a $200,000 super monaro

    What makes them better?
     

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