Re: 2005 NSX with pics !!

Discussion in '2001 Honda NSX-R Concept' started by Chii, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Hope not.<!-- Signature -->
     
  2. Great plan.<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. 2005 NSX with pics !!

    Pics are taken from BESTCAR magazine. They've been pretty accurate at getting TOP SECRET insider info, BUT they are known to make wild guesses on the final production styling. Let's hope that the next gen NSX doesn't look like the pic below, because IMO it's butt ugly! Like a knock off form of the Eclipse. yeck!
    I've translated and summarized what the Article say about the Next Gen NSX. According to BESTCAR, Honda have finally decided to stick to the 3.5 liter V-6 powerplant that they spend little $$ developing instead of a high-tech V-8 everyone's speculating about, BUT with 3 electric motors (aka IMA-integrated Motor Assist) added to help produce a total of 400HP, similar to (and definitely based off of) the concept vehicle, DNX (Dualnote). The new V-6 engine, according to Bestcar, is different from that of a typical NSX V-6 Vtec engine in that it has much longer piston stroke than the traditional VTEC engine, BUT revs up to no more than 7000rpm. This new engine design is great for those torque freaks out there who complains that Honda cars doesn't give you that slam-to-your-seat-feel-while-you-accelerate because unlike the Vtec design that has quick short strokes and high top end power but relatively lower torque figures, this longer-stroking 3.5 liter V-6 will have lower HP output than your usual Vtec engine of the same displacement BUT excellent torque #'s in the low rev range that could be in the neighborhood of 300 lbs.ft.

    BUT the question you're probably asking is, WHY of WHY a V-6 instead of V-8? The article stated that in order for Honda to build a 3.6 liter V-8 that challenges AND anihilates the rival F360 Modena's 3.6 liter V-8 (400HP), Honda engineers stated that some 800 million U.S. dollars are required to fund the development and testing of this new engine into production, but too bad for us the top brass at Honda replied, "NO". Nevertheless, Honda engineers showed to Bestcar that the thchnological capability is already there for them, but the costs of putting forth this kind of technology in a production car is not justifiable.
    Why??
    1) High gasoline consumption rate if 3.6 v-8 engine to produce near 500HP is to be used.
    2)If it's ever gonna be made, the V-8 3.6 liter will still be able to qualify as LEV, BUT the requirments will tighten up in the not-so-distant future and what is considered LEV at 2005 (new NSX's intro)will be substandard 5 years later.
    3) Petroleum is phasing out.
    4) Gas prices will CERTAINLY go UP, NOT down.
    5)Honda is the automotive industry pioneer and leader in environmental-friendly cars. One of their primary philosophy and goal as a responsible car manufacturer (besides making reliable, durable, practical cars while at the same time create a high performance machine with NO sacrifices to the above mentioned) is to keep the pollution of their vehicles to a minimum. Now a 3.6 liter V-8 that puts out near 500HP *CAN BE* tweaked to produce less pollutants with effiicient combustion and good catalytic converter system to convert unburnt gasoline fumes to water vapor, but nevertheless the gas-guzzling nature of extremely high-output compacted v-8 that redlines at 9000+rpm will consume large quantity of fuel that pollutes by using up more fuel anyways, which makes it also a very expensive car for the owner to maintain.
    For many many years Honda hoped to address these issues with no compromises -This is probably THE main reason why the full model change didn't come earlier- while hoping that they can still reach the desired goal of ultimate performance. It seems to Honda that Hybrid technology is the key. To bad for us, huh? I personally like to see a Honda V-8 in the NSX, but according to Bestcar Magazine's inside scoop, that's not gonna happen for the 2005 NSX.

    What do you think?
     
  4. Looks nice but the back is weird...<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. Hope it's not like that, eh?<!-- Signature -->
     
  6. How can they even call that an NSX? Should have just made it it's own model based on the NSX. So much change. Pretty much the same as giving a Viper a back seat. It wouldn't be the same.<!-- Signature -->
     
  7. I hope that comes out as Honda Dualnote instead of NSX... Don't you think so?<!-- Signature -->
     
  8. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Chii</i>
    <b>I hope that comes out as Honda Dualnote instead of NSX... Don't you think so?</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Well, just to let you know that BESTCAR isn't as accurate in the actual looks of the car as their inside scoops...Since Honda insider didn't release any blueprints for the 2nd Gen NSX. So the computer-enhanced pics modded from a Dualnote is their best attempt at guessing what it'd look like.
     
  9. Well, nobody expected this version of the NSX either, everybody think the NEW NSX will be comeing out in 2002, but now, it's all in 2004.<!-- Signature -->
     
  10. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Chii</i>
    <b>Well, nobody expected this version of the NSX either, everybody think the NEW NSX will be comeing out in 2002, but now, it's all in 2004.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Will they use the body of Dualnote for the new NSX...or something similar?
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  11. the head looks ok..
    but the tail..<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. I just don't like it too much...<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. It looks like...that it is smiling.<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. all I can say that the NSX will lose its appeal to hardcore enthusiasts like us. Should they go with the Dualnote-like design and hybrid engine, I don't think I'd want to pay $80,000 for it. Instead I'll get myself another good used 91-94 NSX-coupe and mod the engine up to 580BHP turbocharged (YES IT CAN BE DONE, BUT YOU GOTTA REINFORCE THE ALUMINUM ALLOY BLOCK), and some serious sets of Brembos to stop all of that power efficiently.
     
  15. can anyone tell me difference between Acura NSX and Honda NSX, why are they both NSX's? -- I think they are both very buitiful cars...<!-- Signature -->
     
  16. honda nsx and acura nsx are the same, in japan there are no acura's. Acura is an american branch meant to distinguish honda's luxury brand. Kinda like lexus is a nice toyota...<!-- Signature -->
     
  17. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Compaq</i>
    <b>can anyone tell me difference between Acura NSX and Honda NSX, why are they both NSX's? -- I think they are both very buitiful cars...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I think Acura's NSX only have left hand drive, and they don't have type S type R etc for the NSX...<!-- Signature -->
     
  18. <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Chii</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Compaq</i>
    <b>can anyone tell me difference between Acura NSX and Honda NSX, why are they both NSX's? -- I think they are both very buitiful cars...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I think Acura's NSX only have left hand drive, and they don't have type S type R etc for the NSX...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    Actually the type S version of NSX WAS available in the U.S. as Acura NSX at one time: The Zanardi edition NSX. 51 were made for the U.S., Alex Zanardi himself owns #1 of 50, and I have the #50 of 50. The #0 was a Prototype that was displayed as show car at 1999 auto shows all over thwe U.S., and from what I've heard, someone just bought it from a dealership somewhere. That lucky guy!
     
  19. You are also very lucky!^^<!-- Signature -->
     
  20. hehe, thanks for saying that Chii !
    I hope that all will be well in my life so that no circumstances nor anyone take my Zanardi away! I love this car more than anything in the world, even after I test drove the faster Z06!
    To those of you that wants their piece of the American Dream:
    Work hard and smart, and never ever give up! The day of reward for all of your hard work will come! I'm a living proof! I worked extremely hard almost every day of my life for the last 18 years (I worked since 13 years old), messed up my lower back at 14 years old, and the problem will always stay with me, but the payoff, at least for me to be able to own the Zanardi, was well worth the pain!

    If you want it BAD enough, you too can achieve the impossible !
     
  21. Man, nothing to say but CONGRATULATIONS!!! I hope you to achieve all your dreams and I hope you the best for someone who have earned it after working so hard.
     
  22. #22 Nayuki Minase, Oct 25, 2002
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    haha.... kinda like me..... I messed up my back at about 14 too.... but I just got started really working now... I'm 16... and i already have a decent car.... fun car... anyways, it's a del sol... if you want to know about it, you can find it on www.cardomain.com ... honda, del sol, it's called nayuki... you'll find it in about ther 3rd? page....
     
  23. Looks sweet!
     
  24. Where's the #$%#ing pic?!?!?!<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/angry.gif"></A>
     
  25. ya how come i can't see the (2005 NSX) pic
     

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