Still slow with the supercharger

Discussion in '2001 HSV VX2 XU6' started by realice, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    no, turbo is poor mans power becuase it is "hollow" power all it has is HP, which is what all the boy racers want they dont know what Nm is. so they go crazy when the hear about a 700 HP supra but in reality the thing only has 450 Nm torqu!!!
    supacharger has the power the hole way through the gear not just at the end.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from AVFalcon</i>
    <b>Yeah but it will be faster and sound nice deep turbo sound in a few months you will see falcons with blow off valves and 5 inch exhausts on them. The VY SS wont have a 260kw V8 engine unlike the XR8 and the t series will have a 330kw v8 unlike the clubsport and R8 VY.



    SO I REST MY CASE FORD RULE IN PERFORMANCE AND LOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    How do you know what the VY SS will come with? As much as you may not like it, Holden could easily get 260kw...probably without even taking the rocker covers off too. And as for looks? I think the looks reflect current sales...<!-- Signature -->
     
  3. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from AVFalcon</i>
    <b>Yeah i know so imagine what the dun up versions will have ford will turn the tables and kill holdens in sales and keep on beening the faster car .</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Why do you call yourself AV Falcon? My cousin works for Ford in Geelong in the assembly plant and when I said "AV" he said he had never heard that name given to the new car. He referred to the car as "Barra" and the engine "Dingo"...and he said that cause the AU was so bad in sales, they probably wouldnt use AV to get off the whole "A" thing...<!-- Signature -->
     
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    yeah but the ute sales are double than holdens you wanker
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from greese monkey</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from fattie81</i>
    <b>if the xr6 had a supercharger it would be faster then the GTS 220i</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    IF... that is the key word.

    holden are getting a new v6 and it's gonna kick arse.
    the supercharged buick 6 is heaps old but still does the job for now.
    this car looks heaps betta than the xr6 by far.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    the new XR6 is going to be turbo charged as well <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> ALL ALLOY <!-- Signature -->
     
  6. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    exactly my point, the xr6 looks like dogshit
     
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    yeah fair enough, i guess it was pretty narrow minded of me to make a comment like that.

    i take it back
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from bodybuilder</i>
    <b>yeah fair enough, i guess it was pretty narrow minded of me to make a comment like that.

    i take it back</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    No don't take it back, thats ur opinion and u have every right to express it, i am not going to stop u!!! <!-- Signature -->
     
  9. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    Hey the new falcon xr6 and fairmont ghia will have a turbo 6 with 210kw now take that no holden will keep with the AV falcon.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mattclarke</i>
    <b>Hey the new falcon xr6 and fairmont ghia will have a turbo 6 with 210kw now take that no holden will keep with the AV falcon.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Oh wow 210kw, HSV have 200kw engines ready for the XU6 so settle down, the 10kw won't make that much difference. <!-- Signature -->
     
  11. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    Yeah but it will be faster and sound nice deep turbo sound in a few months you will see falcons with blow off valves and 5 inch exhausts on them. The VY SS wont have a 260kw V8 engine unlike the XR8 and the t series will have a 330kw v8 unlike the clubsport and R8 VY.



    SO I REST MY CASE FORD RULE IN PERFORMANCE AND LOOKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    yeah but 210kw is standard STOCK. engineers have been playing around with the turbo/engine and have it cruising on around 270kw, imagine what people like AVO and such could do to that! The figures that I have quoted are from June Motor 2002<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    Yeah i know so imagine what the dun up versions will have ford will turn the tables and kill holdens in sales and keep on beening the faster car .
     
  14. if the xr6 had a supercharger it would be faster then the GTS 220i<!-- Signature -->
     
  15. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from fattie81</i>
    <b>if the xr6 had a supercharger it would be faster then the GTS 220i</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    IF... that is the key word.

    holden are getting a new v6 and it's gonna kick arse.
    the supercharged buick 6 is heaps old but still does the job for now.
    this car looks heaps betta than the xr6 by far.
     
  16. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from fordrockhardcore</i>
    <b>yeah but the ute sales are double than holdens you wanker</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Okay you can have your big ute sales, and Holden can enjoy 2nd most small car sales, 2nd most medium car sales, 1st family car sales, 1st prestige car sales...Oh and did it ever occur to you that there is only like 2/3 SS Utes rolled off the production line a day, and that there is up to 3/4 months wait on getting one? It is infact harder to get an SS ute than SS sedan!<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Holden Nut</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mattclarke</i>
    <b>Hey the new falcon xr6 and fairmont ghia will have a turbo 6 with 210kw now take that no holden will keep with the AV falcon.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Oh wow 210kw, HSV have 200kw engines ready for the XU6 so settle down, the 10kw won't make that much difference. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    and it will be turbo so its 'poor mans power'<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from realice</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Holden Nut</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from mattclarke</i>
    <b>Hey the new falcon xr6 and fairmont ghia will have a turbo 6 with 210kw now take that no holden will keep with the AV falcon.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Oh wow 210kw, HSV have 200kw engines ready for the XU6 so settle down, the 10kw won't make that much difference. </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    and it will be turbo so its 'poor mans power'</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    But the XU6 has forced induction aswell, so they both have what you call 'poor mans power'
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from realice</i>
    <b>no, turbo is poor mans power becuase it is "hollow" power all it has is HP, which is what all the boy racers want they dont know what Nm is. so they go crazy when the hear about a 700 HP supra but in reality the thing only has 450 Nm torqu!!!
    supacharger has the power the hole way through the gear not just at the end.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Yeah I like turbos because their power and torque is strong straight away and there is no lag with superchargers. But I think turbos are better for extreme hp applications...its the turboed cars that always win at horsepower heroes at summernats.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    330 you keep on dreaming ford cant even get past 270
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from heheheheheheheh</i>
    <b>330 you keep on dreaming ford cant even get past 270</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I hope your joking. Just wait a couple of months my friend..........<!-- Signature -->
     
  22. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BaRRa</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from heheheheheheheh</i>
    <b>330 you keep on dreaming ford cant even get past 270</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I hope your joking. Just wait a couple of months my friend..........</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Why do you automatically assume the BA will be better than the VY? I must admit Fords new package does sound promising but no one really knows a great deal about what the VY will be like.<!-- Signature -->
     
  23. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Holden Nut</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from BaRRa</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from heheheheheheheh</i>
    <b>330 you keep on dreaming ford cant even get past 270</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I hope your joking. Just wait a couple of months my friend..........</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Why do you automatically assume the BA will be better than the VY? I must admit Fords new package does sound promising but no one really knows a great deal about what the VY will be like.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I was commenting about the "ford cant even get past 270" bit.<!-- Signature -->
     
  24. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from bodybuilder</i>
    <b>exactly my point, the xr6 looks like dogshit</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Looks are based on a personal choice. If you think it looks like dog shit then thats ur decision (so don't try and blame us for it). I guess not everyone agrees, they still seem to sell ok. <!-- Signature -->
     
  25. Re: Still slow with the supercharger

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from AVFalcon</i>
    <b>Yeah i know so imagine what the dun up versions will have ford will turn the tables and kill holdens in sales and keep on beening the faster car .</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Well Ford have achieved becoming the faster car with the T series in some cases..but it hasnt seemed to affect their sales<!-- Signature -->
     

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