18 cylinders only 550 hp

Discussion in '2000 Bugatti 18/4 Veyron Concept' started by ghost of freedom, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: 18 cylinders only 550 hp

    18 cylinders and only 550 HP (not that its not alot) is just a waste of money and whatever metal they used for the engine ... extra cylinders cost money.. therefor.. u will pay more money for those cycliners and all the other stuff in the egnine, where as they could have made a W or V12 that could have pumped out the same HP and Torque.....

    but the problem is.. that when a person hears "18" he imidietly thinks this car must be great.. but its not neccerely is.. its all about status and shit..
     
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    so if its a typo, then this car must have 1550 bhp rite?
     
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    the 16/4 has 4 turbos
    6.3L making 550hp sounds about right
     
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    with 18 cylinders, no matter how small, it should and must put out more that 550hp in a car. see, even with the 16/4, 1001 hp is nothing 4 a 16 cylinder wit 4 turbos, wit that it should have about 1200ph if its tuned right, but then again i dont design super cars so maybe theres an explaiation with the 550hp
     
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    only 550 hp out of 18 cyl.? thats so sad that its not funny.
     
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    It's already been mentioned I know... this W-18 isn't turbocharged or supercharged at all. Also, the 16/4 is going to be produced (I think it's going to cost 1 million US, according to Car and Driver), but this isn't, it's just a concept. I guess most of Bugatti's potential buyers agreed they'd rather have a quad-turbo W-16 than this 18.
     
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    how much HP does the production car gonna have ! ?

    950 ? i think its gonna be lower
     
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    Unsupercharged, under-revved, and under capacity. Still a kickass engine, but would it fit in any conventional car???
     
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    another thing w/ the low hp is that Bugatti jus wanted 2 make sure it could BE done in the 1st place. and then they could test and play w/ turbos, blowers, and higher preformance alloys (in cylinders, valves etc)
     
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    Go to hell.
    Bugatti structures their cars beutifully
    If you dont appreciate a w18 than go and kiss my ass
     
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    I dont know why all you poeple are surprised, its logic..if it has 18 cylinders and only puts out 550 hp did it ever occure that maybe the cylinders in the engine are quite smaller than average?

    Another example of this type of engine would maybe be the Aston Martin Vanquish which packs a V-12 but puts out 450hp.

    And for the guy that compared this engine to a modified V-8 with a blower and other accesories is a moron
     
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    screw old cars with blowers any civic can waste it on the free way we wasted a peice of shit hunk a metal whos runing a 10 second quarter mile with over 600 hp on a stock civic o nthe freeweay and it was a stock 90 civic dx 4 door lol i even have a video if you dont beleive me oh and i think this car has more horespower than that probably over 1000 oh wait never mind its all engine ten whats the point of this shit when you have a mclaren
     
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    What the... Can someone please translate. Anyway does anyone know the Torque figures for this. It might explain something. Till i know what the torque figure is im staying out of this argument
     
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    u guys gotta realize that this concept was made not 2 hav a ridiculously potent engine, but just 2 prove that an 18 cylinder engine can b made. The turbo chargers and other junk would b added if this car ever goes in2 "production" which it isnt.
     
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    Yea it is kinda dissapointing considering the 16/4 Veyron has 16 cylinders and has 1001.1 hp. I saw this thing and I thought because of the 16/4 specs that this thing would get around 270mph atleast.
    I was also expecting alot more horse power.
     
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    How the hell do you get 550 hp out of 18 cylinders when they have 1001 hp in a 16 cylinder engine????? WTF?
     
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    ^^^^^Read before you post.

    #1:It's a concept

    #2:Has anyone else made a car with 18 cyl.?Probably not.Why stick 4 turbos in an engine that's never been made before?

    #3:Last time I checked 550 hp for a European car is pretty good cause euros generally get more power for 1 hp.

    #4:Why does everyone have to type the same thing at least 5 times so you guys can get it in your head?
     
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    ISNŽT A 6.2 LITER PRETTY SMALL FOR 18 CYLINDER, MAYBE IS SOMETHING ABOUT CYLINDERS SIZE BUT I MEAN IF HONDA CAN MAKE AFOUR CYLINDER 2.0 LITER WITH 240 HP (S2000) WHY BUGATTI MADE A 18 CYLINDER 6.2 LITER 550 HP?

    AND FOR THE GUY WHO SAID ABOUT THE (4.5) FOUR CYLINDER ENGINES PUT TOGETHER, THE FACT THAT YOUR CAR HAS 100 HP DOESNŽT MEAN NOTHING, I MEAN THE NEON SRT/4 HAS 230 HP ANS IT'S STILL A FOUR CYLINDER AND IF YOU PUT 4.5 NEON SRT/4 ENGINES TOGETHER YOU GET 1035 HP.
     
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    ISNŽT A 6.2 LITER PRETTY SMALL FOR 18 CYLINDER, MAYBE IS SOMETHING ABOUT CYLINDERS SIZE BUT I MEAN IF HONDA CAN MAKE AFOUR CYLINDER 2.0 LITER WITH 240 HP (S2000) WHY BUGATTI MADE A 18 CYLINDER 6.2 LITER 550 HP?

    AND FOR THE GUY WHO SAID ABOUT THE (4.5) FOUR CYLINDER ENGINES PUT TOGETHER, THE FACT THAT YOUR CAR HAS 100 HP DOESNŽT MEAN NOTHING, I MEAN THE NEON SRT/4 HAS 230 HP ANS IT'S STILL A FOUR CYLINDER AND IF YOU PUT 4.5 NEON SRT/4 ENGINES TOGETHER YOU GET 1035 HP WITH 18 CYLINDER YOURS IS NOT THE ONLY FOUR CYLINDER ENGINE.
     
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    Easy with the caps-lock key dude...


    To answer your question. No, the displacement isn't expecially small. Remember, the Bugatti EB-110 was powered by a 3.5 liter V-12. Small displacement means small reciprocating parts like pistons, con-rods and valves. This, in turn means higher/smoother revving and (ironically) more peak power.

    As to the output being low... Remember, this is a luxury car. Designing an engine is a balancing act. You can't have lots of power AND refinement. You have to compromise. Cosworth got 500bhp and more from the 2 liter engines in the Ford Escort "Cossies". But they were loud, harsh and tempermental.
     
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    C'mon, it's a concept
     
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    why why WHY do all these people (the quote is just na example) fail to notice what's important here? no 550hp doesn't have to be a typo (as suggested earlier on the forum).. and why do all these people only compare no. of cylinders and power? the engine is 6,2l and MANY cars of similar displacement reach similar figures. the amount of cylinders is not the point here cause it's possible to even get over 1000hp with 6cylinders. PLUS.. 6,2l divided by 18 cylinders give a reasonably small displacement per cylinder, which means the piston, rods etc are lighter and reaction times of the engine are much shorter than in engines with larger displ/cylinder where a much larger weight has to be put into motion... which results in better performance <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A> and isn't that what we want? anyway, as written before - it is just a concept, never meant for production and concepts usually serve to show the direction in which a company wants to evolve or (as probably in this case) its capabilities.. and in this bugatti has succeeded.
     
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    How the hell do you get 550 hp out of 18 cylinders when they have 1001 hp in a 16 cylinder engine????? WTF?



    the 16/4's 16 cylinder engine has four turbos in it. One thing I have to agree with you is that the 18 cylinder sucks big time, it should at least ge more than 750plus hp out of a 18 cylinder.
     
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    all bugatti w18's have 555hp
     
  25. Re: 18 cylinders only 550 hp

    a stock v12 makes about 550hp, stock w18 should make about 700+hp
     

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