2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compariss

Discussion in '2003 Ford Mustang SVT Cobra' started by Vanilla Ice, Sep 26, 2003.

  1. not just in the straghts, and not just in the corners. I mean over all, that includes ergonomics, fun to drive, the interior comfort, and interior/exterior styling.

    edit: S*IT, the titles too long, oh well. you know what it meant.
     
  2. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 25th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    For interior comfort I did notice the Cobra has considerably less head room especially in the back seat. But I did think like the Cobra's seat fabric and materials alot better.
     
  3. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 25th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    Well considering the 25th anniversary edition Camaro SS never actually existed cuz that would make it a 1992...in which there was an anniversary edition but it came with a 305tbi motor which was good for some high 15's. And of course the 03'Cobra would trash it...so no this is not a logical comparison. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    But since I'm assuming you mean the 35th Anniversary SS...well MM&FF already did a comparo...

    The Cobra won in the 1/4 mile by only about 2 tenths of a second.

    It won in the road course race by only 2 100ths or something like that and it's funny cuz it has more power and IRS <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    But I thin they gave the Camaro the Interior for being better, although like most critical stangers they said something about the bump on the passenger side.

    However I'm 6'5" I fit very nicely in my SS but I test drove an 03' Cobra a long while ago...and loved it, however the room wasn't as nice as my Camaro...although I'd still by one <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  4. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 25th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    realy sorry about the 25th and 35th thing. but how about fun to drive?

    edit: its fixed.
     
  5. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 25th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    I think it comes down to personal preference really...I love both cars. Finally the Mustang has some grunt, and my SS is a freaking blast to drive everyday I drive it. People really do understimate just how well it corners even though it isn't IRS...I mean it was barely beaten by the 03 Cobra around the track which does have IRS, so I think that says a lot.

    But when it comes down to raising hell with some pure American Muscle, I still think it comes down to preference.
     
  6. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    Id take this mainly becase of the added power and cause it can do 0-60 in 4.6 seconds. I still like the camaro too. Like many have said before its personal preference. Sad to say it though but this cobra finally ends the ancient argument of which is better. LONG LIVE ALL
    MUSCLE CARS!
     
  7. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    Funny how in the beginning of your post you're talking about personal preference being the deciding factor and by the end the Cobra is better?
     
  8. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    All of my chevy friends say that the only reason cobra beat the camero was because it is supercharged. I say if for was to put an equal engine in, such as a 351, it would beat the camero worse than the supercharger. It would basically be a cobra R vs. camero.
     
  9. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    but the displacement isnt the only factor. just becuz the Camaro(not Camero) has more ci dosent mean it is automaticly faster. And the supercharger actually does make it faster, and if u eather 1: take the sc off. or 2: put the exact same sc on a LS1 Camaro SS, the Camaro would win. and the Cobra R is a upgrade of the Cobra, so how would that work!
     
  10. #10 Mantronix, Dec 2, 2003
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    Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    Wrong. The issue of putting superchargers on both engines has been debated over and over again. And in the end, a supercharged cobra engine puts out more power than a Camaro engine. Bare in mind that the supercharger the 2003 cobra comes with is not a top notch supercharger like a vortech for example. If you were to take a NA cobra and a NA camaro, The modular DOHC cobra engine will put out much more power with a supercharger than the camaro engine, which is basically a detuned corvette engine.

    Link for a 2001 Cobra:
    http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/yourcar/01mustang_cobra.html


    Link for a 2001-2002 Camaro or FBODY:
    http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/yourcar/01-02fbody.html

    End result: 490HP for the Cobra and 470 HP for the FBODY. also remember that the the cobra is using a smaller displacement engine than the FBODY and still manages to outpower it when introduced to forced induction. Ford engines basically respond better to forced induction.
     
  11. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    Have you considered the weight difference in both motors? Is that a factor at all???
     
  12. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    Have you conidered the LS1 is an aluminum block and heads? What do you mean the mustang would win... I would like to see that race, being a cast iron block beet an aluminum block with the same specs...
     
  13. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 25th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    LOL, the Mini has more interior space than the Mustang.
     
  14. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    Cobra would be my choice. The last edition SS's were cool, but Id stick to the cobra even if it wasnt a better perfroemer, simply cuz it looks better. Even then, replace the 281 in the cobra with a 351 and the cobra will still perform better. And even then, the supercharger in the cobra isnt even at maximum psi. if u tune it to max u can get somewhere around 460-470 horses. Imagine throwing an even better supercharger in there and improve the psi of THAT. Either way, im not much on superchargers, but hell, if the stang comes stock with it, ill use it.
     
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    wrong. this is just one of many superchargers you could fit on these cars. ive seen some to go on ls1 boasting 150-200hp. never the less the mustang supercharger claims 460 horses, the f body like 410. the ls1 325hp, mach 1's(cobra engine not supercharged)300hp. supercharge the mach 1's engine and u get the cobras engine, a 90hp boost. 90hp from a supercharger is not incredibly inpressive just average. race the 325hp camaro against the cobra 390hp and they both would run most definetly a low 13. the camaro with 70 less hp still is about even with the cobra so even a cobra with 460hp and a camaro with 415hp, the camaro would technically win on this ratio. ai dont know where u got ure ratio from (490hp cobra-470hp for f body) but thats just even more in favor for the f body by a real life ratio. and thats that.
     
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    Nope. The mach 1's engine is not a Cobra engine minus a supercharger. It was a '99 cobras engine. '01 is at 320, and '03 minus SC would be more, seeing how the only engine part to change over was the crankshaft. If I were to guess I would say 330-335. The SC was not just there for power; it was there for tuning too. 11s for a grand or less.

    So, some SCs for F-bodies are good for 200HP? So, by factory numbers (<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>), it would be 525. The KB supercharger for the '03 will put out 550, off the rear wheels. So stock, with 390 crank, and dynos of up to 360, 550 RWHP equates to 596 crank. And you have to consider the Cobra is factory SCed, so going by my estimate (330) it would mean a gain of 266. w00t.

    "Race the 325hp Camaro against the Cobra 390hp and they both would run most definitely a low 13.” well take into consideration the Cobra has an IRS, tricky launches, but I have heard of some stock '03s running high 12s on svtperformance.com. Lets look at the road course. Both handle about the same, but the '03 is more nimble, and from rolls, accelerates faster. Win '03.
     
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    Well, durrr the Camaro would win if u put the same SC on it. Its 1.1L bigger. But the Cobra R isnt an upgrade of the Cobra. They use TOTALLY different engines. The Cobra R uses a 5.4, the Cobra a 4.6. Both are supercharged.
     
  18. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    the 5.4 is not supercharged.
     
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    I coulda sworn it was. Anywho, they shoulda made more of them.
     
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    Thank you, for backing up my statement. Way too many people like him think that the 03 cobra engine is just a 01 engine with a supercharger. Some people just cant bare the fact that the smaller ford engine outpowers the chevy engine when introduced to force induction. Anyways, there are a few 03 cobras with the ken belle supercharger putting out 600RWHP
     
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    Did you bother to check out the sites that I posted? Thats where i got my real life info from compared to your so called technically win ratio. Also, the 03 cobra and the camaro ss have been compared on the track and the cobra came out on top. And no thats not that...THIS IS THAT..NUFF SAID
     
  22. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    holy crap, 600 RWHP?! DANG! So they came from SVT? Or from some aftermarket dealer?
     
  23. Re: 2003 SVT Cobra Vs. 35th Comaro SS (a even more logical compa

    uhh read the quotes from z06 guy and master cobra. They agree if you sc the camaro that it WILL be faster then the cobra. Common fair is fair right? If the camaros such a POS why with 65 less hp is it almost neck and neck with the cobra. sure the cobra might be capable of pulling a tenth or a few on the camaro but your comparing a na car with 65 less hp being that close. So if you even put on a piece of crap sc that say put out 50hp on the camaro it would probably be able to beat the cobra. On the track the cobra would win but not by much and if the camaro barely looses to the cobra with 65 less hp then how close would it be if the camaro had that 470hp and the cobra had the 490hp. Now its only a 20hp difference. HP isn't everything dude. My dad's SL55 mercedes has 493hp and comes stock with a sc and its as fast as a 405hp na Z06. Wake up man. I give credit to master cobra for having the cojones to say that a car he doesn't care for as much(the camaro) is in the same league as the cobra. Stock the cobra is very capable of beating a camaro. I'm not saying ones better then the other, they're both fast cars, but your obviously biased.
     
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    65 HP less eh? Look at some dyno charts. By you're saying the SS had less than 2% drivetrain loss. I dont think so. I bet much more that it just underrated.
     
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    Ok well it sounds like you've seen these dyno carts. Post the link or show me where you got this info to back up what your saying. How much hp do you think the camaro has? If you can prove to me that the factory stock 325 hp is wrong and that gm completly messed up rating this I'd gladely except your proof. I'll be waiting...
     

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