all lexus' are ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in '2001 Lexus SC430' started by oh5bellies, Aug 9, 2002.

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    Because... They don't break down, they have more tunning potential and, they have a little more of a sport feel to them IMO.

    Also for the guy who said he would buy a 330i just wanted to let you know... i raced a 330i with the same mods(Exhaust and Intake) i have and killed it.

    The exaust and intake for the 330i add less HP then just my exaust in fact they add nothing... just sound and a weight loss so just my exhaust put me over the 330i<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Please, are you kidding me? What's the tire wear like on the is300? I read the manual and they said the z-rated tires last "substantially" less than 20k miles. Also, bmw's feel rock solid compared to lexus' especially the 330i compared to the is300. The is300 is a bit twitchy and it doesn't absorb small bumps for crap. I like the is300 quite a bit, but at the same rime i like the bmw better, or even an audi a4.
     
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    My dad owns a 98 Lexus ES300 and a 2000 LX 470 and he's very happy about his purchase. I wanted a GMC yukon denali instead of the LX 470 but that was his decision. I like the ES 300 better. Although the IS 300 is an ugly peice of crap. AMERICAN MUSCLE CARS WILL KICK YOUR JAPANESE IMPORT ASSES.Lets do a comparison

    0-60 mph
    Chevrolet Corvette Z06 3.9 seconds
    Lexus IS 300 6.8 seconds


    Chevrolet Camaro 5.1
    Toyota Celica 8.4



    ITS OBVIOUS WHICH IS BETTER
     
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    indeed
    check this...
    for those who think Lexus is crap

    in 1989 (when it was introduced) Lexus sold 16302 cars... german automakers said ...Toyota's luxury division is no threat...

    in 2000, Lexus sold 206037, the RX300 SUV boosted its cars sales indeed... but no one can argue that Lexus was the first luxury brand to reach the 200000 mark in the US in one model year.

    when Lexus arrived, it changed a lot of the rules for German automakers... Lexus ewere better build had better quality and good engines.

    This one, the SC430 looks pretty cool indeed, and its a vbery well done hardtop, though my fave Lexus has to be the GS430, because it was such a step from its predecessor...

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    It would be the first time, when german automakers give a comment about another car company, especially about forgein car companys. Who told you that??? You are really wrong about that, they have never given a comment about others, and they will never be. And you think >Lexus is better, than a german car company? First, german cars are in america more expensive than in germany. Why? Cause of the high american taxes on european cars, not on japanese cars. A comparable german car (or better) to this Lexus costs in germany less, than this Lexus here. And why do they copy Mercedes design, if they are really so great? Or better, why are they running behind Mercedes, trying to become the same style and image? A big TV car tester in germany, has tested several cars (smaller sedans) in all categories. There was a Lexus, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Saab, and some others. Lexus didn't nearly get the first place. if I would have nearly 60000$, I would buy a BMW, or Audi, or Mercedes. I can get cars of those companys, which are faster, have better handling, better working motors, which are very good built and which are sometimes even more luxurious than a Lexus. Don't misundertand me, if I would have to pay american prices for german cars, I would maybe think about changeing to Lexus too. In the end, I think, if they want to become such a great company like Mercedes, or BMW, or Audi (or even like VW, which has luxury fast cars too), they should get their own stly, and not copy the german cars. Thats my opinion.
     
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    Amen to that. Why do must they copy all of Mercedes' ideas it really aggravating.
     
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    hey,

    to that guy who said Henry Ford made the first car, check your history a lil harder,

    Henry Ford did not create the first car,
    He created the first production car,
    there were 2 people making cars before good old Henry was,
    they didn't sell enough and went out of business.
    Henry also created the production Line.
    in which such people as William Harley and Arthur Davidson and many others decided to use after they created their first motorcycle in 1914.

    man I can't believe I remember that from grade 7...

    but besides history,

    not all Lexus's are ugly infact the GS450 is quite a nice looking car.
    I'm not a fan of lexus however they are overpriced and not sporty enough. but it is wrong to say they are all ugly. <IMG SRC="http://www.supercarforums.com/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

     
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    thx brandon. But the 2 car companys before Ford went out of business? American companys? Cause Benz has invented it, and didn't went out of business. So you surely mean 2 american company before Ford, cause their have been much more european companys, before america started producing cars. On the other points, I agree with you, more or less, but the same way.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I think all the lexus's are nice just they went astray on the sc thats an ugly car<!-- Signature -->
     
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    first- lexus' are some of the most beautiful cars around.

    second- i wud never by a german car. All those companies funded and manufactured for the Nazi war machine. Mercedes made cars, BMW made airplane engines and airplanes, Volkswagen was commisioned (excuse my spelling) and first started by Adolf Hitler. Porsche was started by the son of the founder of Volkswagen.
     
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    oh my god, I really thought there could be one rant, please only one, where I can post something without getting replys of, sorry but, stupid idiots. Funny is, that I could think, such comments come from Israelis, cause I think they would have the right for some criticism, but they only come from americans normally. What year we have? 1940??? Even Israelis drive german cars today, they don't talk shit like you, they know it's 2001, the old Nazi regime has nothing to do with german companys today. I really hate to explain to every stupid idiot, coming out, thinking he knows all. Imageine you are the leader of the BMW or Mercedes company in 1940, just imagine it. If you don't do, what the regime tells you, you and your family, your children and your friends and your relatives get killed. That wasn't easy for them, and they have known, that they wouldn't have helped anyone with this, cause they would have been replaced by someone else. Have you really ever thought, that BMW and Mercedes have liked it, to let jews work for them, treated by the regime soldiers? Ever seen Schindlers list? Or read about how the Siemens company tried to save as much jewish and chinese victims in germany and china during WW2 as possible? I'm quite sure you know nothing about that. And whats really ignorant from you, you say no german car, cause of WW2. And what do you think is Lexus? Founded by Toyota, Toyata built engines, cars, trucks for the japanese empire during WW2. Forgot Pearl Habour and the other hard fights that time? And you say nothing against that? You are one of the most ignorant guys I know, sorry. Give me some feedback.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I forgot, You would never buy a german car? I would neve sell one to you! Keep on driving you Kia or Lada or whatever.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    i didnt understand your question...<!-- Signature -->
     
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    wow, you are fast, it's because you are from Israel. Read Buhandi's post here, and then my answer. And then you understand the question, maybe (if my english is not too wrong <IMG SRC="http://www.supercarforums.com/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">)<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Buhandi</i>
    <b>first- lexus' are some of the most beautiful cars around.

    second- i wud never by a german car. All those companies funded and manufactured for the Nazi war machine. Mercedes made cars, BMW made airplane engines and airplanes, Volkswagen was commisioned (excuse my spelling) and first started by Adolf Hitler. Porsche was started by the son of the founder of Volkswagen.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    you know whats funny too? You sitting in front of your IBM PC, and don't know that IBM sold computers (or what could be called a computer that time) to the Nazis. You feel your ignorance now?<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Damm!


    thats a long post...
    not many people know that stuff..

    i own a german car.. a porsche.. and many people i know own a german car as well - a BMW, VW, Mercedes etc..

    Buhandi in WW2 there were people that helped!
    this people risked there live when helped...

    you can see the movie "Schindlers list"
    its a very long movie but it makes you
    understand what happened - IMO its a very good movie..

    i hated the germans when i was little...
    but as you grow older you understand that it wasn't that ALL the germans wanted WW2 to happened...<!-- Signature -->
     
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    thx EandE, I have 3 israeli friends, and they think the same way like you, not like Buhandi, thx<!-- Signature -->
     
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    sure....<!-- Signature -->
     
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    which is why I don't have an IBM. And fump said that Toyota made cars for the Japanese government in WW2. Check your history. Toyota was founded in 1947.
     
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    And why drove they Toyota trucks in WW2? And the other japanese car companys??? Do u think they sat around that time and did nothing? Or why drive an american car? Companys, founded by people which have slaughtered 400 million black people in 200 years? So, you drive no german, no japanese, no american car then. Australian cars? Oh no, they killed Aborigines. What we have in the end? Italian cars? remember Mussollini and his facist government? K, french cars? Go back to Napolean, conquered whole Europe and killed millions. let's fly trough the time, and you'll find everytime a horrible event, would you make generations after what has happened make responsable for whjat their ancestors did? What car company do u choose now? What car do u drive?<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Buhandi</i>
    <b>which is why I don't have an IBM. And fump said that Toyota made cars for the Japanese government in WW2. Check your history. Toyota was founded in 1947.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    hey you know what, I neither have the motivation, nor the time to defend anything anymore against ignorant people which live in 1940. I don't have anything against americans, I have relatives there and I like em, but the truth is, that there are some ignorant people. This is a map for you. It has been made for people like you.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Good grief guys, grow up. WWII is long past. Get over it. Besides most all of the foriegn car manufacturers have become largely American owned and opperated. You can't really buy a foriegn car anymore. Almost all the cars that are sold here in the states also have been produced in the states. Acura, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mistubishi, Mazda, Audi, Mercedes-Benz (now Daimler-Chrysler), VW, BMW, and many other companies who were originally from countries that were our enemies in the war, all have assembly lines here in the states. Don't Mercedes-Benz of North America and Porsche of North America sound familiar? If you've ever bought a Mercedes or a Porsche here, that's most likely where they've come from. Sorry to burst your bubble.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Oliver Peck</i>
    <b>Good grief guys, grow up. WWII is long past. Get over it. Besides most all of the foriegn car manufacturers have become largely American owned and opperated. You can't really buy a foriegn car anymore. Almost all the cars that are sold here in the states also have been produced in the states. Acura, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mistubishi, Mazda, Audi, Mercedes-Benz (now Daimler-Chrysler), VW, BMW, and many other companies who were originally from countries that were our enemies in the war, all have assembly lines here in the states. Don't Mercedes-Benz of North America and Porsche of North America sound familiar? If you've ever bought a Mercedes or a Porsche here, that's most likely where they've come from. Sorry to burst your bubble.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    hey, thx, someone with a brain. And someone recognized that this is past. But I have a question, which one of those cars is owned by an american company "Acura, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Mistubishi, Mazda, Audi, Mercedes-Benz (now Daimler-Chrysler), VW, BMW"? As long as I know, noone of those companys is owned by an american company. I'm not sure about Acura, cause they are very rare in Europe, but the others aren't part of any american car companys. Next question, do they really say "Mercedes-Benz of North America and Porsche of North America"? Thats a nice marketing strategy to make people believe, they buy an american car <IMG SRC="http://www.supercarforums.com/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">. In the end, I'm pretty sure that all japanese companys produce in their own country, cause they can't practice the "Kaizen - way" of producing in america. The only car from your list produced in america is the Mercedes M-Class (could be one or two more), but VW produces in germany and east europe, Audi most times in germany, Mercedes in germany, India and one time in america (the M-Class, you know). But it could be possible that you talk abot parts of cars, right? Like an injection system. The CDI injection system, used in european diesel cars, invented by Bosch, produced with one assembly line in america, 3 in japan, and 18 in germany. But thats all marketing stuff. <!-- Signature -->
     
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    I forgot, Porsche only produces in germany in Stuttgart, nowhere else <IMG SRC="http://www.supercarforums.com/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     
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    I agree with evryone that said that the sc430 is a nice car. and yes the person that wrote they hated lexus proably does like azteks and other crap cars like it.So don't say anything about it cuz you know nothing about it.The only bad thing i have to say about the sc430 is that it does not come in a manuel.
     

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