AND PPL COMPLAIN BOUT AMERICAN CARS!!!!

Discussion in '2002 Ferrari 456M GT Scaglietti' started by The El Man, Aug 9, 2002.

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People complain about American cars havin big engines andc little power. How aboiut this 7.5l with only 440BHP. LAME!!

We actually its not because POWER TO ENGINE SIZE DOES NOT MATTER TO HOW GOOD AN ENGINE IS!!! GET A GRIP PEOPLE!!

Put just a point to whining Jap Lovers, Ferrari not just Yanks build huge engines that dont have "a lot" of BHP per litre.

See some real cars at this site

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Actually, you are wrong. The engine IS 7.5L. The HP/L is 59.15, if you simply multiply that by 7.5, you get exactly 443.625HP. Its not basic math, just basic logic.

Hey Racepics, im not sure whether you mean that it would have more or less HP if it were a production car, for now ill assume that you mean more seeing as how it is a Ferrari.
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no actually you are wrong . Scuderium is right .

a ferrari 456 has a 456x12 = 5472 cc engine ..so its a 5.5 l engine

and 442 /5.5 = 80 hp/l .. thats not bad for a gt . a car that wasnt designed to be high revved 365 day 24/7 , and is more a highway cruiser than an track racer <!-- Signature -->

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i agree with this guy, and not to mention a '02 Z06 vette
would smoke this thing , id still love to drive this thing though<!-- Signature -->

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May I remind you all, its just a concept car...
I'm sure "if" Ferrari was going to produce the car it wont be making 440 hp...<!-- Signature -->

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Its a mistake, moron... its 5.5 litres...<!-- Signature -->

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<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Scuderium</i>
<b>Its a mistake, moron... its 5.5 litres...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Actually, you are wrong. The engine IS 7.5L. The HP/L is 59.15, if you simply multiply that by 7.5, you get exactly 443.625HP. Its not basic math, just basic logic.

Hey Racepics, im not sure whether you mean that it would have more or less HP if it were a production car, for now ill assume that you mean more seeing as how it is a Ferrari.

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Directly from the official Ferrari website the displacement for the 456M GT/GTA is 5,474 cc. There was a typo on the supercars.net website obviously.

Where did you get that idea? And even if this package were a concept, it does not include any changes to the engine.

If you don't want to sound stupid check things out before you post.

- Steven<!-- Signature -->

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<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from vetteboy79</i>
<b>i agree with this guy, and not to mention a '02 Z06 vette
would smoke this thing , id still love to drive this thing though</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

how can you even compare thÃ½s to a vette, thÃ½s Ã½s a 2+2 coupe not a 2 seater all out super sports car, the ferrarÃ½ combines style elagance luxury qualÃ½ty and speed Ã½n one car and the vette has no luxury (Ã½nterÃ½or made of plastÃ½c) no style (very boxy and has pratÃ½caly no contour ends) no elegance (Ã½ts a vette, need Ã½ say more) and Ã½n 20 years when you go apply for a REAL job and show up Ã½n a vette and others show up Ã½n a ferrarÃ½ they wÃ½ll laugh at you, the only thÃ½ng the vette has Ã½s performance, when ferrarÃ½ wants to make an all out performance car for the masses to afford Ã½t would probably smoke a vette.<!-- Signature -->

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Nice try there trying to justify american cars huge displacement and low output but almost every ferrari is putting out 110 hp/liter which they consider to be an accomplishment. Plus the information on this car here is wrong so... nice try basing a whole theory on 1 car with mistakes in its specs.<!-- Signature -->

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<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Cheezwizfire</i>
<b>Directly from the official Ferrari website the displacement for the 456M GT/GTA is 5,474 cc. There was a typo on the supercars.net website obviously.

Where did you get that idea? And even if this package were a concept, it does not include any changes to the engine.

If you don't want to sound stupid check things out before you post.

- Steven</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Sorry about that, im going to start doing as so many ppl have suggested (not normally to me), including myself and start checking my references straight from the source. thanx for the info.

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If you look at ferrari road car history.......its quite rare for ferrari to push an engine to its HP limits. <!-- Signature -->

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<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Scuderium</i>
<b>Its a mistake, moron... its 5.5 litres...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

exactly.

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This wasnÂt designed to race the Z06 but could still beat it on certain tracks. The top end power is better. I wouldnÂt expect it to be a bad handler either considering itÂs a Ferrari.
Besides, compare it to another American 2+2 coupe and compare those stats.
99% of American cars are junk.
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Comparing this car to any Corvette is pointless because people with the money to buy either will not make that comparison. Whoever said the engine is 5.5L is right and a real car expert would not even have to check to know that 7.5L was not accurate.

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<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from gsolinas</i>
<b>This wasnÂt designed to race the Z06 but could still beat it on certain tracks. The top end power is better. I wouldnÂt expect it to be a bad handler either considering itÂs a Ferrari.
Besides, compare it to another American 2+2 coupe and compare those stats.
99% of American cars are junk.
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this was the first Front engined Ferrari in 20 years (it came out before the Maranello)
and in engine development the italian engineers decided to schew the high tech gizmos that abound in modern engines and instead go for the brute power of a large engine.

The sound of this engine coming to life is harmonoius.
And whoever dares to ever compare this Ferrari with a jap pocket rocket shouldn't be allowed to post here anymore.<!-- Signature -->

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<b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Scuderium</i>
<b>Its a mistake, moron... its 5.5 litres...</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

Actually, you are wrong. The engine IS 7.5L. The HP/L is 59.15, if you simply multiply that by 7.5, you get exactly 443.625HP. Its not basic math, just basic logic.

Hey Racepics, im not sure whether you mean that it would have more or less HP if it were a production car, for now ill assume that you mean more seeing as how it is a Ferrari.
</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

no actually you are wrong . Scuderium is right .

a ferrari 456 has a 456x12 = 5472 cc engine ..so its a 5.5 l engine

and 442 /5.5 = 80 hp/l .. thats not bad for a gt . a car that wasnt designed to be high revved 365 day 24/7 , and is more a highway cruiser than an track racer </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

NO SHIT!!! If you would review the quotes you would see tha i admitted that I was wrong, and apologized, but you didnt, did you?

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Yeah, Steve the Bugatti fan! This car does have a much smaller engine than posted. And as for the person who said they would rather have a z06 over this, that is because you have no class. Not only would this car hold its own (im not saying it would win, but it can easily take on any 'normal' car), but it has a MUCH more comfortable interior. Not to mentiod that little horse on the hood makes it more desirable than something with two crossed flags...<!-- Signature -->

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<!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from The El Man</i>
<b>People complain about American cars havin big engines andc little power. How aboiut this 7.5l with only 440BHP. LAME!!

We actually its not because POWER TO ENGINE SIZE DOES NOT MATTER TO HOW GOOD AN ENGINE IS!!! GET A GRIP PEOPLE!!

Put just a point to whining Jap Lovers, Ferrari not just Yanks build huge engines that dont have "a lot" of BHP per litre.

See some real cars at this site

http://lameroad.topcities.com </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->This car is awesome. Are you ratting on this car because It isin't a 1988 with a \$200 body kit? What the hell are you talking about buddy?<!-- Signature -->

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(rolls eyes at incredible ignorance)
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