Please read my entire post before you post a reply. For years muscle cars have always had the idea of "we may not be able to beat a exotic now but you take that money you would have used to buy the exotic and buy a muscle car. Now take the difference and put it in the muscle car then go race the exotic and you will most certainly win." That still holds true, but now these compact cars have taken this muscle car idea and used it against them. For example someone driving a $15,000 civic wont be able to beat some one in a $28,000 camaro ss thats just comon sense. But you take the $13,000 and invest it in a civic, and what do you get--one quick civic and one pissed off ss driver. Now this idea of civics beating muscle cars only exists to this point because once the muscle car driver starts putting money in his car it is all over. But when it comes to tuning on a budget, a factor that many of us must worry about, it is damn near impossible to beat the compact imports.