Beginner Bikes!

Discussion in 'Trucks and Motorcycles' started by Kemper, May 14, 2006.

  1. I currently own a Ninja 250R and I've ridden my brothers GT250R, the ninja's smaller and you sit in a more upright position, which I find more comfortable, but if you're a tall person the GT250R might be the one for you.
     
  2. I'm about to buy my mate's old Suzuki GS500F as my first bike, so I look forward to keeping you posted on how I go!

    He's had it for a couple of years now while he's been getting his full licence (maximum a learner rider is allowed on a state of NSW, Australia licence is 650cc)... and now he's about to move onto a bigger bike and selling this one to me.
     
  3. Have fun mate! I test rode a GS500 for a mate, not a bad bike.
     
  4. I probably should go for my motorcycle license soon.
     
  5. Maybe a repost, but got my knee down while leaning. Took 7 years and 40kkm to archieve. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  6. Cheers. Yeah every review I've heard on it says its as good a first bike as any.
     
  7. lol my mate just wrote off his first 250 after less than a month of riding
     
  8. question - what makes a more powerful bike a bad idea for beginners? is it simply that they go to fast, or is it that its unwieldy because powerful bikes tend to be heavier?

    a friend of mine is selling willing to sell me his 06 ducati s2r for 5k with about 15k miles. its 380lb dry, and all these 250cc are not much lighter than that. im not scared by the fact that his bike is 800cc, because i'm not an idiot. unless there's a lot more to consider, his s2r will probably be the bike i'll learn on.
     
  9. Weight isn't an issue. It's just like someone learning to drive in a supercar or something innit. Your mistakes are magnified when you've got more power to play with.
     
  10. well, weight IS an issue when you're 5'10" 160. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    but i can handle that. i just want something that's easy to ride and easy to handle. since im a responsible adult, i can handle not twisting the throttle until i have the confidence level to go fast safely, so i think im just going to go for it.
     
  11. I've been learning to ride on a Kawasaki ER-5. absolutely love it. about 50hp and 180kgs so definitely enough power to be pretty hilarious and to feel safe(r than my first assumptions) amongst the other traffic but not so much that it's scary to open up should you need to - 30-70mph is over pretty quickly, so merging onto a motorway is no problem at all.

    very forgiving controls - very unlikely to loop it if you drop the clutch accidentally as it just stalls, doesn't really weigh a ton so pretty easy to control at low speeds, and catch if you do over-balance whilst coming to a stop. I'm just over 6' @ 160 and I was on the bike for a few hours at a time and found it quite comfy. didn't get a sore arse or anything but the lack of weather protection did get tiresome after a couple of hours (esp in the pouring rain overtaking lorries)

    U-turns, slow-speed filtering/traffic, hill starts etc. all pretty easy to get right - you have much more opportunity to just concentrate on riding and enjoying yourself instead of being worried you're going to bend it the whole time

    I'd assume that a CB500/GS500 would be very similar. almost all riding schools over here use similar machines - 500cc commuters
     
  12. That looks really good. A perfect balance between sportbike and standard. Theres one on Craigslist right now but its rust and gross, and not much less than my buddy's ducati. And its black on black, and screw that.

    Oddly enough, another bike i've kinda drooled over is a Harley XR1200, which is the same sort of balance but between a standard and a cruiser. Nice looking, but definitely too much for me.
     
  13. consider maintenance on a Ducati. Parts and servicing will be amazingly expensive in comparison to a GS500/CB500/ER-5 etc. insurance is likely to be a ton higher, as well as fuel costs, cost of tyres, replacement parts when you drop it etc. a commuter is more likely to shrug off not-perfectly-adhered-to service intervals compared with a ducati.

    As alluring as a Ducati is, it will be a money pit.

    don't get me wrong, it will probably be absolutely lovely but IMO as a first ride it's risky.
     
  14. true, he did say its gotta get a 15k service coming up soon. not sure exactly what you do for those. that probably why he wants to be rid of it. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  15. It's probably a major service so it's likely the valve clearances will need doing
     
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  17. I my experience brakes , gearing and throttle response are vastly more sensitive on a more powerful bike , and you think your going to be able to exercise some will power and no twist that throttle , but in reality you will not.
     
  18. Its torque and tires.

    At least was in my case. Faster bikes tend to have better parts, but you sometimes forget how much heat affects traction. Then you get used to the throttle response, but forget that the difference between modulating throttle and whipping it.

    Yep, no will power in reality, so get that bike. Ride it on track or on road with good run of areas and frieds to help you. There are only riders who have fallen and those who are going to fall, make sure you do the landing smoothly. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  19. Get him to teach you some basics of riding or something if you want to learn on a big bike. It's easy to say you won't twist the throttle until you're ready, but you're much better off with something you can handle.

    Imagine a road situation where you must react quickly, perhaps a car is coming at you from the side or swerving into your lane on a highway, you need to be quick with the controls. If you over-do it on a corner and don't have the confidence to lean in more, it's over. Like Simmo says mistakes will be magnified
     
  20. one thing I have noticed since getting on my own bike (which is, admittedly far too powerful for a beginner like me) is that although the controls are all in the same place, and I have the ability to make it move down the road, the actual way the bike handles is completely alien. it's a LOT less forgiving. the way you steer is different - you really have to consider body position and learn to use your bodyweight to steer.

    the ER-5 that I learnt on is the easiest thing to ride for someone with limited experience. The VFR really isn't.

    With that all being said, despite being scared witless a lot of the time it's a hell of a lot of fun - I've put about 250 miles on it since Saturday and I am getting used to it, but I can see it taking a few years before I'm completely at ease with it. The bike is a lot more talented than I am.


    EDIT: oh, and it's literally impossible to resist seeing exactly how fast it is. #$%#ing ludicrous. I steamed up my visor shouting "HOLY FUUUUUUCK!" the first time I did it, and I'm sure I'm yet to open it up fully.
     
  21. Got my first bike yesterday. It's a used 2009 Honda CBR125R.

    I didn't have a chance to ride it yet.
     
  22. Nuda 900R /thread
     
  23. I have a 2001 R6 that is buried in storage. Don't like it at all. I am currently looking buying a 2003 TL1000R from a buddy for 2500$. And am trying to decide if I should buy a new Harley street Bob.

    I am also trying to find a decent RC51
     
  24. I've been riding for quite a few years. Learned on a 1996 YZF600 And dirt bikes
     
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