Best Jap. car ever?

Discussion in '1998 Nissan R390 GT1' started by TurboPorsche, Mar 27, 2003.

  1. is this the best car from japan?

    if some one can think of a car from japan, from any year that is better thin this car, please post it, i'd like to know, also please tell why the car you say is better is better, because i have not found a better car then this, from japan. (ignore price <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    787B.......the only japanese or rotary powered car to ever win Le Mans so far. powered by a R 26B quad rotor engine it produced 700hp @ 9000rpm normally aspirated with 840.61 nm @ 6500 rpm.
     
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    The Mazda 787B is the only japanese or rotary powered car to ever win Le Mans so far. powered by a R 26B quad rotor engine it produced 700hp @ 9000rpm normally aspirated with 840.61 nm @ 6500 rpm.
    The Mazda was in a lower catergory & thus the top line companies had cars that where more powerful (read faster).
    Its main rival that fell away were Mercedes.

    Peugeot was quick but failed very early in the race.

    Mercedes where very quick but their last car failed 2/3 into the race.

    Jaguar where also quick but their lead car #$%#ed up & fell well back.

    Any 24hr race is more about "Survival of the fittest" than who is the fastest.

    Only in the last 3 years 2000 + 20001 + 2002 has Audi been the fastest & the fittest combined.

    For 1991, the Mazda was easily the most reliable and to match the rivals may have been allowed to turbo the 4-rotor engine taking it's 700hp to over 1000hp. Then it would have matched the Mercedes & other turbo cars. Problem with that would have been its reliability failing just like the others did at that time.


     
  4. #4 RaveRacerR390, Mar 28, 2003
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 25, 2016
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    Also, the Toyota GT-ONE. a twin turbo V8 like the R390 but displacing only 0.1L more. it produced 447.4 kw / 600.0 bhp @ rpm and 650.0 nm / 479.4 ft lbs @ rpm. The GT-ONE was able to pull lap times 10 seconds faster than the Le Mans winning 787B. Well this car shouldn’t be here as its NOT from Japan. It was designed and made by TTE, (Toyota Team Europe) which is based in Koln, Germany.
    In 1998, it almost achieved the miraculous by winning in its debut year but only because of transmission failure on car #29 whilst it was in the lead with less than one and a half hours left in the race. Porsche breathes a sigh of relief as victory is handed over.
    Toyota returned in 1999 and 5 hours into the race its chances of winning greatly increased as the AMG Mercedes Team pulled out their remaining #6 CLR when Peter Dumbrecks #5 Mercedes became airborne and crashed into the trees. Toyota begin to look invincible, this year they must make it, surely the dream result. But listen to the pundits, they are talking about a BMW victory.
    The leading Toyota gets a puncture, spins, hits the wall and is out. No worries the #2 car is almost just as quick, if not quicker and it takes up the battle. Toyota still have a third car in wings driven by the Japanese. Then the next Toyota crashes heavily and is out, Boutsen is sore but OK. The three car team is suddenly a vulnerable single car team.
    While all this is going on BMW, an efficient German machine, well honed and well resourced calmly move into the lead, the Toyota plot has fallen apart ! As the race builds to its climax everybody has their calculators out, the Toyota is quicker, the BMW uses less fuel, fewer pit stops, it could well make it, but the Toyota is the fastest car on the track. It will be down to spilt seconds. To make the public understand the plot the second place, hard charging Toyota gets a puncture at the furthest point on the track, it is unbelievably unlucky!
    It is now down to the lone BMW to heroically fight its way to finish. BMW are worried about debris on the track, so they pit for new rubber, they have the time and are playing it safe, they surely can’t lose now. More is fuel added so it should run to end now. At precisely 16:00 hrs the 1999 24 Heures du Le Mans is over, BMW win, in the end by a safe margin.


    Heres a high-res of the 1998 racer. it takes too long to load so i'll give u the site.
    http://www.tte.de/image-bank/lemans-image-bank-GT-One.html
     
  5. #5 RaveRacerR390, Mar 28, 2003
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 25, 2016
    Re: Best Jap. car ever?

    Also, the Toyota GT-ONE. a twin turbo V8 like the R390 but displacing only 0.1L more. it produced 447.4 kw / 600.0 bhp @ rpm and 650.0 nm / 479.4 ft lbs @ rpm. The GT-ONE was able to pull lap times 10 seconds faster than the Le Mans winning 787B. Well this car shouldn’t be here as its NOT from Japan. It was designed and made by TTE, (Toyota Team Europe) which is based in Koln, Germany.
    In 1998, it almost achieved the miraculous by winning in its debut year but only because of transmission failure on car #29 whilst it was in the lead with less than one and a half hours left in the race. Porsche breathed a sigh of relief as victory was handed over.
    Toyota returned in 1999 and 5 hours into the race its chances of winning greatly increased as the AMG Mercedes Team pulled out their remaining #6 CLR when Peter Dumbrecks #5 Mercedes became airborne and crashed into the trees. Toyota begin to look invincible, this year they must make it, surely the dream result. But listen to the pundits, they are talking about a BMW victory.
    The leading Toyota gets a puncture, spins, hits the wall and is out. No worries the #2 car is almost just as quick, if not quicker and it takes up the battle. Toyota still have a third car in wings driven by the Japanese. Then the next Toyota crashes heavily and is out, Boutsen is sore but OK. The three car team is suddenly a vulnerable single car team.
    While all this is going on BMW, an efficient German machine, well honed and well resourced calmly move into the lead, the Toyota plot has fallen apart ! As the race builds to its climax everybody has their calculators out, the Toyota is quicker, the BMW uses less fuel, fewer pit stops, it could well make it, but the Toyota is the fastest car on the track. It will be down to spilt seconds. To make the public understand the plot the second place, hard charging Toyota gets a puncture at the furthest point on the track, it is unbelievably unlucky!
    It is now down to the lone BMW to heroically fight its way to finish. BMW are worried about debris on the track, so they pit for new rubber, they have the time and are playing it safe, they surely can’t lose now. More is fuel added so it should run to end now. At precisely 16:00 hrs the 1999 24 Heures du Le Mans is over, BMW win, in the end by a safe margin.


    Heres a high-res of the 1998 racer. it takes too long to load so i'll give u the site.
    http://www.tte.de/image-bank/lemans-image-bank-GT-One.html
     
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    its took me atleast 10 minutes to load that picture so appreciate what i've just done.
     
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    no way
     
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    is that it? can u be more specific?
     
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    I know what you are sayin, bro. What does this guy have against you taking 10 mins to upload your pic????? Maybe it didn't take him that long because his CPU is faster and he is just bein a Dick about it!
     
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    Well, atleast it's one of the best.
     
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    i think hes answering to the thread question.
     
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    i think the point of this forum is the best NON RACE jap car and if i am correct i agrre and by a long shot the 2 closest to it would be the nsx and r34
     
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    this is a NON RACE japanese car
     
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    what!? its not!?
     
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    whats not???
     
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    let me rephrase that: the Toyota GT-ONES not from Japan!? hows that possible?
     
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    no, its not from Japan. it was designed and tested in Koln, Germany.

    BTW did u even read my post?
     
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    If it is not from Japan. What about the engine then?
     
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    i think Toyota Team Europe may have designed it too
     
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    I will agree that this is one of the best Japs ever.
     
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    Oh and how in the hell can any of you other people type such long messages?!?!?!? Shit who would want to type it and who would want to read it?
     
  23. Re: Best Jap. car ever?

    could quite possibly be the best jap car ever.
     
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    easy, just copy and paste. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
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    I know eh. i dont even read the long msgs. Too much blah blah blahing.

    Anyways, i would say the R390 would be one of the best Jap cars to date, im its bound to win the LeMans sometime, if theyre still working on improvements..... are they? anyone know?
     

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