Call now and ugly wing comes for free!!!

Discussion in '2000 Ford Focus FR200 Concept' started by Formula1Mclaren, Feb 14, 2003.

  1. Why o why have american cars fallen in to this deep dark whole. Were know for V8 not...well this. I know people will disagree, but i dont give a shit.
     
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    I agree, I have yet to see an American company make a decent engine that puts out reasonable power that's smaller than 4 litres, and has less than 6 cylinders.



    BTW - I race with a stock 1990 Civic SI and I've beaten cars that were in a higher class than me, cars such as 2002 WRX's, misc. Subaru's from 1996 - present, an Audi TT rally edition, a souped up Subaru Justy, etc. (still better cars of course - except that one Mustang, it was hopeless in those races, got close to last almost every time), I wasn't in the same class, but I beat their times, the list was accumulated over the course of a few races. This was rally racing of course, and my car pales in comparison, but it's still capable of competing so I'd consider it far from being "retarded".
     
  3. Re: Call now and ugly wing comes for free!!!

    I agree, I have yet to see an American company make a decent engine that puts out reasonable power that's smaller than 4 litres, and has less than 6 cylinders.



    BTW - I race with a stock 1990 Civic SI and I've beaten cars that were in a higher class than me, cars such as 2002 WRX's, misc. Subaru's from 1996 - present, an Audi TT rally edition, a souped up Subaru Justy, etc. (still better cars of course - except that one Mustang, it was hopeless in those races, got close to last almost every time), I wasn't in the same class, but I beat their times, the list was accumulated over the course of a few races. This was rally racing of course, and my car pales in comparison, but it's still capable of competing so I'd consider it far from being "retarded".
     
  4. Re: Call now and ugly wing comes for free!!!

    I agree, I have yet to see an American company make a decent engine that puts out reasonable power that's smaller than 4 litres, and has less than 6 cylinders.



    BTW - I race with a stock 1990 Civic SI and I've beaten cars that were in a higher class than me, cars such as 2002 WRX's, misc. Subaru's from 1996 - present, an Audi TT rally edition, a souped up Subaru Justy, etc. (still better cars of course - except that one Mustang, it was hopeless in those races, got close to last almost every time), I wasn't in the same class, but I beat their times, the list was accumulated over the course of a few races. This was rally racing of course, and my car pales in comparison, but it's still capable of competing so I'd consider it far from being "retarded".
     
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    First of all, it's all just amateur rally racing, so nobody really has any significant experience, or exceptional ability (well, I like to think I do<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>, but of course I have to get a bit more experience under my belt first).

    Second, the Civic SI (particularly a 1990) pales in comparison to cars like the WRX, TT rally edition, etc., but (and this is the reason I pointed it out) that just goes to show that it can compete when a good driver/codriver combination is behind the wheel. Which, IMHO, goes to show that even the 1990 Civic SI is a pretty quick, nimble car.

    There were a lot of cars, some are bound to come in behind others, some of the people I beat were slower than me, there were a lot of WRX's that came in ahead of me as well (I had no reason to expect to possibly come in first overall, that would be foolish<A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>)

    A good example for you is SCCA Pro-Rally. Open class cars generally take the first few positions, but once you get to about 5th overall you start to see Group-N cars ahead of Open class cars, does this mean that a production WRX is better than a modified EVO or WRX or Tibouron? of course not.

    Do you get what I'm saying now?
     
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    oh, and I just realized that I was giving him an example of Honda's being Capable (even their lowest end car, though a 90 Civic SI generally performs better overall than a '90 Prelude), I forgot to mention that in one of those races I came in 8th overall, first for my class, in another I came in 3rd overall, first in my class, in another I came in 12th overall, 3rd in my class, well you get the idea.
     
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    V8' are good, but this car is supposedly faster than a ZO6 since it does the 0-60 in 3.5 seconds. Although it is stupid to make a sports car with 4 cylinders, if it's got a powerful turbocharger, then it should be capable of running with sports cars carrying V8's.
     
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    the ford rs200 evo has about 2 liters & puts out 600 horses
     
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    Yes, and isn't it a racing engine?
     
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    This is made by Ford Europe, moron.
     

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