Camaro MIGHT be a diesel

Discussion in 'American Cars' started by KRSONe1, Sep 18, 2006.

  1. Either I failed to express myself, or you are kind of missing the point of my post. 14 years ago the diesel explosion began, diesel luxury cars were looked with suspition. And now 14 years later most of the high end cars sold come with a diesel engine (even maserati is making one for the QP !).
    However the Diesel Sportscar market is still pretty untapped. Mind you that the AMG experience wasn't a good one, and only now with the 330cd did BMW jump into it. People are not looking yet towards diesel as a sports car, that WILL change. But again the market has to change, and it does so from the top. Chevy isn't a top brand, even more so in Europe. Plus the concept of a "bad ass american muscle car" with a diesel is laughble - atleast for now
     
  2. No, but PT falls in the same category as the mini, beetle, its a retro car. It doesn't matter if its diesel or not. People won't care.
     
  3. Exactly, thats why American companies have not been successful in europe since the 50s and 60s. They try to be european, something that europeans can do much better.
     
  4. I think it depends more on what it's power is and the price than anything. If it has the power they're looking for, at a price they're ok with and it gets better mileage by a good margin than the gas engine it will at least be considered.
     
  5. When buying a sports car mileage isnt that important.
     
  6. basicly, ever since they started to compromise they sunk, its ok that they make small adjustments - remove the fat ass XXL seats, and the gazilion cup holders - but the concept cannot loose its character
     
  7. European market =/= American market

    You are thinking from the american perspective
     
  8. the 177hp toyota 2.2 diesel I4 has 300lbs of torque...
     
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  11. I know I'm a yank and might be missing somthing but... Don't price, power, and gas mileage matter everywhere? Keep in mind I'm not talking about some random guy off the street. I'm talking about someone who is intentionally looking at Camaros. IMO if the TD fits the bill power/price wise it will be considered, especially since it will get better mileage.

    To me it seems the biggest thing against it is that it is a TD and not gasoline. That would "kill" some of the American muscle car heritage vibe, which is the primary reason someone in europe would probably buy it. I'm not sure how big an effect it would have on the buyer, but that to me seems to be the biggest reason it wouldn't work.
     
  12. your last post = all my other posts
     
  13. Ok. I guess I didn't have your earlier posts straight in my head about what you said. Too bad even if they do it we probably won't get it here. I can only imagine what us crazy Americans would do with a TD in a muscle car... Talk about torque! Plus the gains over stock would probably get it well into the 400sHP with basic mods, and the TQ would be through the roof. Sounds like a good muscle car to me <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  14. holy #$%# that's twice tonight!" <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/angry.gif"></A>
     
  15. American cars have the same seat size as their foreign counterparts. And please explain to me how a cup holder per seat (generally how its done) is bad in any way?
     
  16. Just as an example i've seen Fiat's 1.3 Multijet engine (wich GM shares) reaching 150 hp reliably with only ECU modding ...
     
  17. It's not bad. It's not what Europeans look for or want. Jesus Christ how hard are these concepts to understand.
     
  18. I have used the cup holder in my car 3 times in 4 years, I use my car everyday. Most europeans eat at a table, not inside the car.
     
  19. Don't people drink coffee or anything in their cars? I don't eat in my car hardly ever, but I always drink. The only real gripe I have with my Jag is that there is no cupholder. I constantly drink tea. So I had to get a stupid cupholder that looks like shit, and to boot there was no good place to hang it so it hangs from the handle of my glove box.
     
  20. I've never seen that, the closest thing I see is a random chick drinking water on her way out from the gym
     
  21. Really... That seems very strange. I just can't imagine that no one drinks coffee on their morning drive to work or whatever. I bet they do in France and Italy, they love their espresso <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A> It's their fault we Americans are all into lattes and stupid coffee drinks in the first place.
     
  22. Have no ilusions 90% of all people hit the cafe for an expresso before work, but an expresso is served and drank in the cafe.
     
  23. Silly Europeans, don't you guys know you can drink and drive at the same time??? It's more efficient that way.
     
  24. Drinking in car = distraction = more car crashes = grid locks

    how is it efficient ?
     
  25. can't you take a quick sip at a stop light?
     

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