can't beat da viper!

Discussion in '2002 Ford GT40 Concept' started by Jmac, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: can't beat da viper!

    I think it can beat the Viper, 'cos with an all-aluminum (surely be lighter than Viper's V10) 500 bhp engine CENTRALLY MOUNTED (balance is very important), and the apparent lighter and higher aerodynamic body, I think it's a winner.
     
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    IF only all you people could shutup until the specs come out on the car, then we will se who is the best. Yes the vipers are good but if this car is anything in todays aspect as it was in the 60's then just about ALL cars in todays market including the VIPER should watch themselves because the old GT40 put every car to its limits in the 60's and it will probably do the same in this era as well.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from Rockwood</i>
    <b>IF only all you people could shutup until the specs come out on the car, then we will se who is the best. Yes the vipers are good but if this car is anything in todays aspect as it was in the 60's then just about ALL cars in todays market including the VIPER should watch themselves because the old GT40 put every car to its limits in the 60's and it will probably do the same in this era as well.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->Damn Straight
     
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    Let me make simply

    GT-40!!!!
    IS
    LIGHTER
    THAN
    VIPER!!!!
    MEANS
    FASTER!!!!
    BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I am going to hate both the 2003 Viper and this when they come out cause I going to Have such a hard decision deciding which to buy!!!!!

     
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    I JUST LOOKED AT THE SPECS ON THE 65 GT-40 AND WITH 390 HP WAS VERY FAST. IT HAD A TOP SPEED OF 200, AND IF THE NEW ONE IS THE SAME DESIGN BUT BUILT TWICE AS GOOD AND IT HAS 100 MORE HP THAN THE 65,ITS GONNA BE PUSHIN IN THE TOP SPEED OF AROUND 215. FORD DID SAY THAT THEY WERE GONNA BUILD IT TO COMPETE WITH FERRARIS AND LAMBORGHINIS NOT VIPERS AN CORVETTES.(THEY ARE PROBEBLY TALKIN ABOUT F50 AND DIABLOS)- MY MONEY IS ON THE GT-40.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from nicktraffic</i>
    <b>SHUT UP ABOUT VIPERS! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT! THIS CAR ISN'T EVEN A RIVAL TO THE VIPER DUMASS THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! I BET IT COULD BEAT A VIPER ON A REAL TRACK, NOT SOME STUPID "SPEEDWAY" I MEAN LE MANS! WITH REAL CORNERS + STUFF! I BET IT COULD BEAT IT IN A LINE TOO AND IT LOOKS BETTER! THIS CAR IS KICKASS!

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!ME SICK OF VIPER PEOPLE!!!!!!AAAAAAAARRGH!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->


    Youre right....viper isn't in competition in this car....but you're an idiot...obviously the viper isn't going to beat a LeMans car on a LeMans track moron. That's why viper's not a real LeMans car....It's just a speed demon that owns any car that wants to race. And this could't even come close to keeping up with an 800tt...so shut your mouth and only speak when you know what you're talking about.
     
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    Hey ferrari 13, please educate all of us dumb Americans, please...
    Shut the hell up! Ferrari rocks no question, but they are not the be all end all of cars. Cars have many different classes, American cars are created with different classes and different price brackets in mind. There are things to racing besides the Nira races and Lemans too. So save yourself the trouble of showing how arrogant you are and go chat with your import snob buddies. WTF are you doing on this forum anyway?

    And you don't spell moron with an "a" you stupid sh**<!-- Signature -->
     
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    they are.. and that is the point.. be all end of all of all cars. everything else have imitated them and succeeded others have failed.. that is why when comparing a supercar that big F always pops up... u dont' go to supercars.net to read about the new neon or stratus... So don't go questioning other poeple on why they are here. moran
     
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    This is great, everyone is saying that the viper won't perform on Le Mans tracks or "real" race tracks. Is everyone on crack? Have you ever heard of Team Oreca vipers? They're the one's that won 24 hours of LeMans, Daytona, Sebring and the American LeMans series several years running. I'll admit that a 500hp mid engine will probably out handle the Viper but we know almost nothing about this car yet! I think it is fairly ignorant to say that the Viper is an inferior car. And keep in mind that the new viper was designed with Chrysler's racing efforts in mind. But this is not a viper forum! I believe Ford is targeting the 360 modena and several other european exotics. But we won't know until Ford slaps a price tag on it.
     
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    I questioned Ferrari 13's presence because he said nothing of value. It makes me mad sometimes when people spout trash they may or may not be able to back up. All 13' did was trash a huge catagory of cars, insult the people in the forum, and then spout a one line opinion. Thats crap. I responded in kind.
    Ferrari rocks. They make incredible cars. But how do you define the "best" car company? Companies are a funtion of profit. By that measure, Honda may be the best. Do you agree? Neither do I. There are, as I said before, many types of cars and companies, so don't trash a whole segment of them based on country of origin. Thats why I hate all the import snobs who simply hate US cars because they generally can't compete with imports in some areas. US cars market to a different crowd and different price brackets. The most prevalent charecteristic appears to be cheap HP, and Domestics do that well. In addition, they do compete at International events, not just on the strip. So don't blow them all off as redneck peices of trash. Thats arrogant.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    I'm sure this would wipe the floor of the vipers arse. Even the new viper for 2003. it may have a larger displacmement engine but the gt40 has a mid-engined mounted donk which is lighter and producing the same power, whilst having a lower centre of gravity and better aerodynamics. We can't compare both cars for 2 reasons. 1) becasue they were not intended for the same class, and 2) because none are relased yet (2003 viper im talking about) hence they have not been tested. But as the GT40 would have a better power/weight ratio it would also be lighter so handling im sure would be over 70mph in the slalom.
    Both great cars, both Different leagues.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Ok, this is a SICK car! It will probably Tear the SHIT out of the viper, but the viper is also nice. Don't get me worng, it nothing to creme your pants over, but this is a classic car with a fresh update done to it. I hope I see this on the street someday.<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. Re: can't beat da viper!

    go buy a car and driver they already tested it and here are results
    0-60 in 4 seconds
    0-100 in 9.2 seconds
    standing 1/4 1.5 seconds
    top spedd 185(drag limited)
     
  14. Re: can't beat da viper!

    sorry 1/4 mile in 10.5 seonds
     
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    suck on that you stupid sons of bitches
     
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    are you talking about the GT40 or the 2003 viper? reply to Tickford: the weight of this car was not listed nor the center of gravity. I agree that in all probability that this should beat the viper in handling but we don't know for sure. I'm not discrediting this car rather I'm defending the Viper, Dodge already has a 'competition coupe' version of the new viper built with the track in mind. This coupe has 520hp and 540lb-ft of torque and was built for the track, I think that many would be surprised by its handling capabilities because most think that a big front engine rear drive car cannot handle well. I will say again: we can't say what the competition for this car will be as Ford has not put a pricetag on it, and whether or not Ford will even build it. We can speculate but what is the use in speculation?
     
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    My issue of car and driver says 1/4 mile in 12.2 seconds, not 10.5. Stop trying to bend the truth. Suck on that bro.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    F**k off viper! We are talking about the art of auto mobile construction but not some sort of stupid truck engine. If both got on track, I am sure GT 40 can beat Viper.
     
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    This isn't a 1/4 mile car... It'll destroy the viper on a track... 40 years later - still kick your ass

    Obviously itll swallow up to a 427, so don't worry about that viper in the 1/4 mile, she'll catch up...
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from nicktraffic</i>
    <b>SHUT UP ABOUT VIPERS! YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT! THIS CAR ISN'T EVEN A RIVAL TO THE VIPER DUMASS THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! I BET IT COULD BEAT A VIPER ON A REAL TRACK, NOT SOME STUPID "SPEEDWAY" I MEAN LE MANS! WITH REAL CORNERS + STUFF! I BET IT COULD BEAT IT IN A LINE TOO AND IT LOOKS BETTER! THIS CAR IS KICKASS!

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!ME SICK OF VIPER PEOPLE!!!!!!AAAAAAAARRGH!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    I know what you mean dude im sick and tired of people comparing Vipers to everything i mean ive seen people compare Viper's to civic Si's i mean comeon give Honda a break. But still you cant compare a legendary RACE CAR like this to the viper and besides this thing would beat a viper anyway except of course for the 800TT but thats a different story.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    yes it can you fool. wtf do you think you know? viper for starters relies on 2 more cylinders and 2.5 more litres, and the ford still outguns it in a straight line, let alone a proper race track like LM.
    Even better, it looks so much smoother than the viper, and doesnt have a 65 metre high spoiler on the back. the only viper that would come close to the gt40 is the henessy ms 800. but why bother, coz it would still handle like a viper. The two cars just cant be compared to each other, as its simply not a fair fight.

    but then again, both cars are american, but for once, the yanks made a fine automobile, seen here as the gt40. its about bloody time.
     
  22. Re: can't beat da viper!

    I believe it is between Saleen and Roush not RUF. RUF builds Porsches. Perhaps you should read Autoweek or Motortrend.
     
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    im pretty sure gt40 can beat the viper, but does it stand a chance aganist ferraris new f-60 which will come out at about the same time?
     
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    Yeah sorry about the RUF it is the Roush. I don't know that it will be able to beat the F-60 but the F-60 is also like 300,000 and the gt40 is only 100,000-125,000 hey its your money.
     
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    yea, i have heard the price of the f60 to be even higher than that...somewhere around 500k, for the fact that the f50 was 420k.

    so in reality compare it to the tvr speed 12 or the mclaren or the jaguar xj220 or something like that not a 100k supercar...the 360modena is 150k and we all know this will kill the modena.

    but oh well, how come the f60 is brought up every time just wondering, have they even built a working prototype yet? havnt seen the pics or the data kind of a thing so i dont know....if so plz post a link, i love ferrari and would like to see what the production f60 is like <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif">

    i would take it to saleen and roush and have a co-partnership on making the car <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> probably be better that way <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> oh yea through steeda in there too, for the fact the steeda q mustang is the fastest tuner mustang out there, beating saleen roush <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> 175mph avg speed at the nevada open road challenge <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"><!-- Signature -->
     

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