Ferrari let off without punishment

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  1. #1 Bugatti4evr, Sep 8, 2010
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    Ferrari has avoided further punishment for its actions at the 2010 German Grand Prix, after appearing in front of the FIA's World Motor Sport Council (WMSC) in Paris on Wednesday.

    On lap 49 at Hockenheim, Ferrari driver Felipe Massa conceded the lead to team-mate Fernando Alonso after receiving a radio message from his engineer Rob Smedley saying: "Fernando is faster than you. Can you confirm you understood that message?"

    After the race the team was fined $100,000 by the stewards for breaching Article 39.1 of the sporting code, which bans team orders, and Article 151c, which forbids teams bringing the sport into disrepute.

    However, Reuters has reported that, on leaving the hearing, head of Italian motorsport federation Angelo Sticchi Damiani told reporters Ferrari had escaped further sanctions

    After the German Grand Prix team boss Stefano Domenicali, who was present in Paris for Wednesday's hearing, insisted the radio communications were purely informative and not instructive.

    "We gave information to Felipe about what was the situation, because we have already seen in the past that certain situations could not give the best result to the team," he said after the race. "That was the information we wanted to give and we leave the drivers to understand and take notice of it in order to make sure the team, in terms of the global results, gets the best."

    The governing body has now ordered a review of the regulations, which is an indication that the team orders ban will be amended or scrapped altogether.

    F1 chief executive Bernie Ecclestone, as well as FIA president Jean Todt, were present for Wednesday's proceedings.

    Ecclestone refused to comment beyond saying a press release will be issued shortly.
  2. What a complete farce.
  4. What s surprise.
  5. good. Any step towards transparency of the FIA is good.
  6. Still an expensive call, $100,000 for 12 words.
  7. You're absolutely right. It's not the first time that teams orders are isued on F1 team, but only now a team is punished. In 2008 Hockenheim McLaren also used team orders but no investigation was made or penalty was issued. And that team order most likely gave the WDC to Hamilton.

    But of course FIA favors Ferrari. Oh wait, something's not right...
  8. After what happened to Hirvonen last year, I really cant blame them.
  9. How is it a step towards transparency.
    The rules were very clearly broken, it was a rule put in place as a result of Ferrari's indiscretions and mysteriously the former team principal of Ferrari heads the WMSC on the eve of the Italian GP and doesn't even give them a slap on the wrist.
  10. this. Ferrari is F1.
  11. transparency in that they dont intervene with everything. FIA intervenes way too much.
  12. laissez faire =/= transparency
  13. Enforcing the rules isn't intervening. And not punishing someone for breaking the rules isn't transparency.
  14. eh guess yall are right on this one.

    I just hate how the FIA constantly digs is grubby little fingers into everything.
  15. They had been punished already, guys, by a fine. This was merely about additional consequences and it'd be inconsequent if Ferrari would be punished more compared to other team calls (minus 'crashgate' of course).

    The real good news is that they're going to review the regulations and probably (here's me hoping) come up with a definition of a team order, as article 39.1 doesn't cover even that [a definition].
  16. Or just get rid of the no team orders shite. It's a team sport.
  17. Ya, either way would be an improvement compared to the current situation
  18. Someone suggested that if two teammates are running one if front of the other, the team can allocate the distribution of points. I think this is a great idea, so the right driver still gets the win, and no on track shenanigans. This is what should happen, maybe only implemented at 2/3 of the season though.
  19. Oh how I'm surprised.
  20. They should just swap Alonso's and Massa's points from that race. I don't see what is wrong with that.
  21. Ideally, yes, but changing points after the fact is a big no-no in the eyes of the FIA.
  22. Then perhaps the FIA should remove the 2008 WDC from Hamilton since MCLaren also used team orders that year.
  23. Can you provide any detail regarding this?
  24. #25 Vladislaus, Sep 14, 2010
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