For some reason...

Discussion in '2004 Evolve S40' started by Veyronman, Nov 15, 2004.

  1. ...the rear wheel camber makes me want to puke!

    but yeh, proper awesome car...i wish my 340 was like that <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  2. yeah they tilted it to much
     
  3. i agree with both of you
     
  4. Heck yeah, you'd be lucky to get 5000 miles out of those tires. What a waste. You rarely see a car with this much track potential, and they put it into a 4 door FAMILY sedan. F*ck auto manufactures. They don't know sh!t about what the customers want.
     
  5. Heck yeah, you'd be lucky to get 5000 miles out of those tires. What a waste. You rarely see a car with this much track potential, and they put it into a 4 door FAMILY sedan. F*ck auto manufactures. They don't know sh!t about what the customers want.
     
  6. Heck yeah, you'd be lucky to get 5000 miles out of those tires. What a waste. You rarely see a car with this much track potential, and they put it into a 4 door FAMILY sedan. F*ck auto manufactures. They don't know sh!t about what the customers want.
     
  7. i think it was exaggerated to much, and set up for some drifting?
     
  8. The tire is less than half an inch from the fender, why the hell would anyone want that?
     
  9. You guys know that can be changed w/ some suspension work, right? but that is annoying...
     
  10. The rear wheel chamber is a bit large, but it's not insane or anything. I think it looks OK considering it isn't really a nasty car to begin with, so I don't mind the minor design abnormalities.
     
  11. I wonder if the rear wheels would fit if they weren't put in such a huge negative camber.
     
  12. I've seen exaggerated camber a lot more recently on heavily modified cars ('rice'd out') It doesn't look good- it looks like something's broken. Maybe it's a fashionable interpretation of what happens when folks try to lower ride hieght without a proper suspension kit.
     
  13. It's to have a better cornering behaviour as the grip surface on the outside tires is bigger with a negative camber.
     
  14. If I had this car, I'd modify the sides of the rear bumper and the wheel arch so that it covers the wheel. Kinda like a wide body kit thing, but just for the rear wheels.

    Hmm, correct me if I'm wrong, but those rear tyres will spray mud all over the sides of the rear bumper won't they? Also, over time as gravel and pebbles hit it, it will ruin the paintwork, not to talk about the fact that the rear wheels will also throw stones at the cars behind it and smash their windscreens. I've been in an accident like that and it wasn't pretty.
    Slight design flaw me thinks. It might even prevent the car from being released like that in some countries, like the UK. Volvo might have to modify it themselfs.

    The camber is really exagerated, most likely for drifting, but very impractical for normal roads, as someone here said, those tyres won't last much more than 5000 miles with that camber unless you swap them round, if they can be swpped.
     
  15. they probably could
     
  16. No, they couldnt, the rear tires are 11" wide for gods sake. Just because the photos show heaps of negative camber, that doesn't mean it will be released like that, in fact it probably won't.
    And just as a point of interest, high negative camber is rarely used in drifting these days <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  17. No, they couldnt, the rear tires are 11" wide for gods sake. Just because the photos show heaps of negative camber, that doesn't mean it will be released like that, in fact it probably won't.
    And just as a point of interest, high negative camber is rarely used in drifting these days <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  18. No, they couldnt, the rear tires are 11" wide for gods sake. Just because the photos show heaps of negative camber, that doesn't mean it will be released like that, in fact it probably won't.
    And just as a point of interest, high negative camber is rarely used in drifting these days <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  19. No, they couldnt, the rear tires are 11" wide for gods sake. Just because the photos show heaps of negative camber, that doesn't mean it will be released like that, in fact it probably won't.
    And just as a point of interest, high negative camber is rarely used in drifting these days <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  20. No, they couldnt, the rear tires are 11" wide for gods sake. Just because the photos show heaps of negative camber, that doesn't mean it will be released like that, in fact it probably won't.
    And just as a point of interest, high negative camber is rarely used in drifting these days <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  21. Dude - Volvo's blurb says:
    "Following on the heels of last year's Volvo S60 R SEMA dream cars, Evolve has once again created a show car, this time in the shape of the exciting new S40 sport sedan. Sold to Evolve Cars, Inc. for $1, the Volvo S40 is strictly a VCNA Marketing exercise designed to build interest among the aftermarket enthusiast segment."

    Read it again and pay special attention to the bit that says "Evolve has once again created a show car" - SHOW CAR

    The whole purpose of this car is to demonstrate the crazy things that can be done to an S40 - as such there's not even the slightest of intentions for this car to be commercially available as a turn-key model - let alone from Volvo itself. Being a show car it doesn't matter if they would only get 5,000 miles from those tyres, because this car wasn't made to drive anywhere near 5,000 miles in its lifetime - it's made to sit still and look pretty while showcasing the performance mods available from Evolve for Volvos.

    Read the blurb before commenting so as not to make a fool of yourself.
     
  22. i wouldnt as much as say that
    as much as anyone i am an enthusiast that loves the purpose built car. the elise the corvette and such

    but there is a market out there full of idiots and they have money too

    auto manufacturers can be stupid sometimes but for the most part they know what they are getting themselves into
     
  23. Ah you should really read the post above you.

    Anyway it is a show car/designed to look like a race car. If you have ever noticed a track car they have a vast amount of negative camber as to provide a larger contact area while cornering.

    If you have ever seen a Road car cornering hard the wheel is on an angle. Say the car is turning hard left the outside right wheel will be on an angle like this / /.
     
  24. He he he i read it
    wasnt referring to this car specifically
    confusion
    just stating how auto manufactures know a bit more than someone with an opinion
     
  25. Sorry my mistake man.
     

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