Further proving that MB has no idea how to build cars.

Discussion in '2002 Mercedes-Benz CLK 55 AMG' started by england r the best, Aug 10, 2002.

  1. Re: Further proving that MB has no idea how to build cars.

    OH... and no1 mentioned lexus. im not a jap fan, but they look better, are cheaper, and will last 4eva, so they also kik the mercs ass. my grandad is a twat because he has a clk320.
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    i kind of agree with the person becaue i prefer audi and bmw over mercedes but its only because mercedes has automatic in all of their cars. howver, they do build good cars. bentley cost way too much (i still like em though) but uh i believe more people can afford this than bentleys, rolls royces, or aston martins. the jaguar xj220 had bad handling. see what its concept was and see what's its reality waz and you wont say the same thing about jaguar xj220's being godly. the mclaren is now being duplicated (same specs everthing believe me i checked) for about 200k so eat it. lastly i'd like to say that mercedes is capable of building a performance oriented car, but you have to remember that mainly all high priced cars are (old peoples cars) in your terms becasue only old people have enough money to purchase them in general. dont believe that mercedes can build an awesome car oriented only in performacne.

    mercedes benz clk-gtr (we should know these two)
    mercedes benz clr
    mercedes benz clk-gtx (7 liter v12 700 hp...VERY FAST)
    mercedes benz clk race car (900 hp i dunno engine)
     
  3. Can not compete with the likes of Jaguar, Audi, and BMW.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from lotus87</i>
    <b>Can not compete with the likes of Jaguar, Audi, and BMW.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I can tell, you haven't seen the Mercedes SLK Komepressor. This baby has about 400 horses pumped into a 2500 pound car. This would kick a Jaguar in the butt. Jaguar's arent fast anyway!
     
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    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from lotus87</i>
    <b>Can not compete with the likes of Jaguar, Audi, and BMW.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->I can tell, you haven't seen the Mercedes SLK Komepressor. This baby has about 400 horses pumped into a 2500 pound car. This would kick a Jaguar in the butt. Jaguar's arent fast anyway!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Does anyone know what the hell car this guy is talking about? I know my cars pretty well and I never heard of that car. Is he talking about the SLK 32 AMG? It doesn't have 400 horses, its got 356hp from a supercharged engine. And yes Jaguar sucks.

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    "Further proving that MB has no idea how to build cars"
    what u sayin man? - is that why MB is one of the leading manufacturers in the world today? or why so many ppl buy em? is it cos they have no idea how to build cars?
     
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    Well I'll definatley agree that I am not a huge fan of Jaguar, especially since they were bought out by Ford (Not to knock on good ol' american craftmanship or anything though). But has anyone ever heard of the Jag XJ220? I dont believe it is quite as fast as a Mclaren or anything, but it sure as hell hauls ass. Its definatley comparable to the MB CLK-GTR (at least in price <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> )
     
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    i think when the price hits those levels, and if your rich enough to afford one, it doesn't really matter....and yes, jaguar does suck...even in F1
     
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    <b>Well I'll definatley agree that I am not a huge fan of Jaguar, especially since they were bought out by Ford (Not to knock on good ol' american craftmanship or anything though). But has anyone ever heard of the Jag XJ220? I dont believe it is quite as fast as a Mclaren or anything, but it sure as hell hauls ass. Its definatley comparable to the MB CLK-GTR (at least in price <IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/servlets/cMsg/html/emoticons/smile.gif"> )</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Nice car. Held the worlds quickest car title for 5 minutes before the release of the Mclaren and cost Jaguar a heap of money, it nearly sent to company under. Probably why they wound up being brought out by Ford. Put it this way, it didn't help matters much at all.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from lotus87</i>
    <b>Can not compete with the likes of Jaguar, Audi, and BMW.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->We will have to wait and see.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    MB beats the crap out of Jaguar. And also Audi...
     
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    THAS RITE MB ALL DA WAY
     
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    im a big fan of MB, MB's engine is fine, but im a little bit dissappointed with new MB models such as new e-class and clk-class,
    these cars have a very very very bad butt!!!they dont even looks sporty enough to have MB labels on them! but the new sl is really really okay!!!
     
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    MB is a good company, it's just unfortunate that they're a part of Diamler Chrysler.
     
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    MB not only competes with Audi, Jag, and BMW, but also puts Audi and Jag to shame, and cetainly gives BMW a run for their money. the only decent Jag in the past 10 years was the XK8 and the XJ220 (which doesnt count b/c its totally out of its class as far as the cars we are speaking of in this thread). Audi may make decent sporty cars, but aren't built with half the craftsmanship that BMW and MB are built with. and MB still comes out on top of Audi.

    Now to say that MB can't even compete with BMW is just plain stupid. BMW may come out on top for the most part when comparing them as sports cars, but MB definitely has the edge as far as luxury goes. And as far as sportiness goes, BMW certainly isn't leaps and bounds ahead of MB. keep in mind that BMW has been about sport just as much as they have been about luxury since their beginning. MB has only been about luxury until the last decade...and i'm not saying that the SL hasn't been MB's flagship sports car from the beginning, but BMW no longer has an 8 or 12 cylinder coupe to rival the SL. and BMW stopped making the comparable 800 series b/c it was junk. MB is trying to put a little bit of sport into all their cars nowadays. so being new at it, they are certainly nipping at BMW's heels, and i wouldn't put it past MB to surpass BMW someday.

    I don't want to sound like a BMW hater. i love both BMW and MB...and for the most part BMW has the edge over MB in the performance department, but once again, that is b/c MB has been focused more on luxury, comfort, and safety over the years until very recently. yes BMW's 300 series outperforms MB's C-class. but the M3 just barely outperforms the CLK55 AMG and DOES NOT outperform the C32 AMG or the SLK32 AMG. BMW's 700 series will outperform MB's S430, but not the S500, S600, or any CL-class. however, the M5 will outperform any E-class or any other comparable MB vehicle.

    bottom line is that MB hangs right in there with BMW on performance and is definitely a competitor. as far as this thread goes, i'm not crazy about the new look of the CLK. i kinda like the old style better. and i would certainly take an M3 over the 2002 CLK55 AMG b/c i dont like the look of the new CLK, and i would certainly take the M3 over a 2001 CLK55 for performance reasons. the M3 is just a beautiful car, and while MB did well fitting the new CLK55 with excellent performance, i don't like the look much...besides, the performance difference between the two is too marginal to consider now that MB has made a better performing CLK55.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from lotus87</i>
    <b>Can not compete with the likes of Jaguar, Audi, and BMW.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    you = troll.
     
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    Ha thats quite silly. silly to point where i feel like ripping your face off and then feeding the rest of your worthless body to starving ethiopian children. Thats how silly this subject is my friends yes. Its true Its true. If i had to rate the 4 cars u compared, this would be how it goes:

    1.Mercedes= 'Tha realist'
    2.BMW= 'Whole lotta game'
    3.Jaguar= 'ATM'
    4.Audi= 'Not wit that Guy!'
    YES i am the greatest!

     
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    jag xkr is better than this pile + jag xkrr pisses on top of the nazi staff car. and aston martins, well they're not even worth comparing to this overpriced, overrated and overheavy car. AND WHY IS IT AN AUTOMATIC? BECAUSE ITS AN OLD PEOPLES CAR.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    Mercades are some of the most luxorious cars out there. Can't find many better cars. Germans know how to build good cars. Look at the Porche!
     
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    your car knowledge is almost as bad as your spelling you illiterate fool! look at rolls royce, bentley aston martin..... and try telling me the mercedes is more luxurious.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    i must say that i'm a big fan of all this jag bashing. I really really hate jags. And while i am myself a BMW fan and would never dream of buying a MB, i do believe that MB has the luxury that BMW lacks at times as 'sunny' has pointed out. The interiors of MB are absolutely beautiful.....the only thing i disagree with that 'sunny' said was that the 8 series beemers were crap. I LOVE THEM, but hey thats just me.
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from england r the best</i>
    <b>your car knowledge is almost as bad as your spelling you illiterate fool! look at rolls royce, bentley aston martin..... and try telling me the mercedes is more luxurious.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->he said some of the best. Not the best, and i love bentleys and astons. But how much more do they cost than a merc.

    Your a twat if thats the way you compare cars, of course Bentley is going to be more luxurious. Most of its owners get driven around in them and if they drive them they drive them for the torque and unmatched luxury.

    Don't argue that Jaguar is more luxurious than mercedes because its not. A friend has a XJR and the back seat has very little leg room and a low roof, compared with my parents E55 which has a ton of room up front and in the back.

    Im dissapointed that merc didn't make this model CLK more like the origional (my dad also drives a CLK55) I dont consider this car better than the XKR. But if i was going to spend that money I'd get a Porsche or a new E55 or M5.

     
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    I'm a big fan of Jag bashing too, though I love Aston Martin and Bentley, etc... But about the previous Audi bashing going on... No build quality? Riiiight, read any article over the last two generations of A4, and I belive you will notice a line somewhere in there, especially about the new A4 stating: "Mercedes and BMW could learn a thing or two about materials and build quality from the interior of this car." I've seen that line 3 times... Not to say I don't love Mercedes, or BMW, but Audi do not get the credit they deserve... And as far as performance is concerned.... Ok, you can take your CLK55 for probably over 60,000 dollars... Then I'll take my 34,000 dollar S4 and add a 600 dollar chip, and you just got your ass whooped straight line at least. :). So, it's a different thing. All the car companies listed here are good, just slightly different ideas and such, but Audi doesn't deserve the bashing it got a bit ago, look at their R8, it's not like they don't know how to engineer a car. But hey, I drive an Audi, so I'm a wee bit biased. Hell, I love them all!
     
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    no kidding
    and the slk230 kompressor has 185 horses, dumbass!
    and if you meant the slk32, it has only 349 hp dumbshit!!
    and the slk230 does weigh 2500 pounds, but the slk32 weighs 3500lb and handles like crap<!-- Signature -->
     
  25. mercedes benz are the best in the plante

    they make a very good sport cars, and saloon cars, and every thing
     

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