to give you just a few: cornelius taticus, a roman historian, alludes to Jesus as Christus, the founder of christianity who was sentenced to death by Pilate. lucius of samosata mentions jesus a few times as the man who was crucified in palestine and introduced a new cult into the world flaveous josephus,seutonius, plinius secundus, tertullian, thallus, phlegon, justin martyr, and many more also make similar mentions of him. Most of these men were Roman or jewish historians.
to give you just a few: cornelius taticus, a roman historian, alludes to Jesus as Christus, the founder of christianity who was sentenced to death by Pilate. lucius of samosata mentions jesus a few times as the man who was crucified in palestine and introduced a new cult into the world flaveous josephus,seutonius, plinius secundus, tertullian, thallus, phlegon, justin martyr, and many more also make similar mentions of him. Most of these men were Roman or jewish historians.
to give you just a few: cornelius taticus, a roman historian, alludes to Jesus as Christus, the founder of christianity who was sentenced to death by Pilate. lucius of samosata mentions jesus a few times as the man who was crucified in palestine and introduced a new cult into the world flaveous josephus,seutonius, plinius secundus, tertullian, thallus, phlegon, justin martyr, and many more also make similar mentions of him. Most of these men were Roman or jewish historians.
to give you just a few: cornelius taticus, a roman historian, alludes to Jesus as Christus, the founder of christianity who was sentenced to death by Pilate. lucius of samosata mentions jesus a few times as the man who was crucified in palestine and introduced a new cult into the world flaveous josephus,seutonius, plinius secundus, tertullian, thallus, phlegon, justin martyr, and many more also make similar mentions of him. Most of these men were Roman or jewish historians.
everyone should be agnostic, in the middle (IE balanced belief)... not to either extreme of the sides.
just don't take a book so literal. thats all I mean. Ask questions, go outside the book. and understand... in 2000 years, A LOT of change (technologically, socially, etc) can happen and understand that people tend to hate change. Also, pretty much all the artwork before the 1800s was influenced by the church (well... really until 1830 and then cameras started coming less than a century later) since it had the most money and artwork can make people see views better than writing... also, i'm sure it wasn't that hard to brainwash a lot of people back then (lack of reading/knowledge from outside [news paper], etc)
oh i thought you were saying to take a bit of this and a bit of that. Have a foot in all camps so to speak.
well.... i just hope what i said made sense. its not like science is all fact either, its mostly theological as well... as someone pointed out... its not like theres only 3 religions out there.... theres hundreds out there. just the "big 3" cause wars.
well... you could consider the american (and other countries as well) constitutions as ever changing bibles... the thing i notice with most everyone is just a repeating pattern. Grand parents teach mothers and fathers stuff, mothers and fathers are more likely to be with the time (compared to grand parents), and son and daughter are even more likely to be with the times (compared to the parents), while parents are less with the times (compared to the sons and daughters), and grandparents are even less with the times( compared to the sons/daughters and parents [the change factor]). Its just VERY SLOW on going pattern... then again, most people don't account for things that take TIME to acchieve (species evolution, earth evolution, etc), cause we are pretty mucht impatient creatures.
you could... if you just see the bible as a textbook for the way to live rather than the book that holds the key to eternal life.
-Josephus: He was born several years after the supposed death of jesus. He didn't write anything about Jesus until almost 100ad but at first glance it would appear to be excellent evidence of Jesus. However there is strong evidence that the few lines refering to Jesus were inserted or atleast heavily modified by christian apologists. He may be the only historian to refer to Jesus by name but its difficult to tell if he ever really wrote about Jesus. -cornelius tacitus: Never mentions Jesus by name. Probably the strongest evidence around but its still pretty weak. He makes mistakes in the title of pilate and only talks about christians and "christus". Perhaps he had some documents pertaining to the death of Jesus but its unlikely as he doesn't seem to know Jesus's name and its doubtful the romans would refer to him as christ or messiah. Most likely he was simply repeating what christians said about heir own religion. He claims christians were killed to distract romans from a fire. -seutonius: talks about christians and "chrestus" causing trouble no mention of "jesus" specifically. Chrestus is a common name from that time period and suggesting it meant christ let alone jesus is really pushing it. He also fails to mention anything about a fire in rome and killing christians as a distraction. -plinius secundus: Wrote a letter to them emporer discussing the execution of christians, the stubbornness and madness of early christians and groups of people leaving the religion. He makes no reference of Jesus, I don't know why you listed him. -tertullian: A christian apologist who converted around 190ad, not very usefull as he wasn't born anywhere near the time Jesus was supposed to be around. -thallus: Most of his stuff has been lost vague references about an eclipse at the time of jesus death, would have been impossible if the gospels are true anyway. -phlegon:doesn't mention jesus -Justin martyr: Christian apologist born in the first century, not very helpful. Just repeats existing doctrines. So far we have: 0 witnesses alive during Jesus life. 1 reference to jesus by name, which is quite likely a fraud and is even denied by early christians.