Discussion in '1987 Merkur XR4Ti' started by FeLiX93, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: Merkur XR4Ti

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  2. Re: This car has the wrong name !!

    I have a Sierra, it was very slow so I put a V8 in it.

    Now it doesn't work.


    Congratulations, you're an idiot. Don't forget that this car also costs over a million less than the Mclaren. And unless you've driven one, shut up.

    yeah plese shut up. Where are these things built anyway? it sounds like a german name but im not sure.

    Its a joke people, its a f**king inline 4 what do you expect, I'm outta this shitty forum....

    These cars were built in Koln, Germany. The inline-4 "only" made it outperform it's competition, mercedes and bmw. Not bad for a ford.

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    first of all, supercars is either terribly wrong on this car's stats or im looking at the wrong car. My friend has a sierra cosworth rs. it has a merkur nameplate and is the car in the picture, except his runs a 14sec 1/4 mi. and 0-60 in about 5.5 secs. his is slightly tuned but regardless this car has some serious potential

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  10. #10 mzrts12, Aug 9, 2002
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  11. #11 FeLiX93, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: Merkur XR4Ti

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    Wow, thats a nice picture! You're right, this car is quite capable... And the website is alright.<!-- Signature -->
  12. Some history

    I thought about buying one of these and researched the history a while back. I dont remember dates but ill tell you the story.

    Ford wanted to import its european sierra to america in the early 80's to do battle with the bmw's that were selling so well to the yuppies thanks to the high ecomomy caused by president reagan's economic plan. But they also did not want it to run the risk of it competing against established ford nameplates such as the mustang, so then ford europe president bob lutz proposed that another ford branch should be created, and this german manufactured car company was to be called merkur. He came to this name because mercury translated into german is merkur. Merkur was to an early attempt at somthing that ford had attempted many times and not experienced any real success with up until the focus, selling the same car in europe and america. Merkur was to also spawn a whole family of bmw competitors. That in my oppinion they were eventually trying to get rid of fords identical twin the mercury brand with a name plate that people would think to be more sporty. So they did what you do when you move into a new market, start with a small well built car the xr4ti, the t was given because of the turbo charger. This was a well built car was more than able to hold its own against the its competiors with class leading handling and a strong engine. But the most of the problems with this car eventually came to a marketing problem.

    First off as a general rule of marketing a product should have a name that is easy to remember and pronounce and merkur was not easy to remember and even harder to pronounce. In a rather embarassing moment for ford the name merkur was mispronounced in several of their comercials for some time before it was finaly fixed. Another problem was the dealers ford distributed the car to. They wanted merkur to appear an upmarket brand so they had lincoln mercury dealers sell it. This became a problem because as they soon found out sales men working for that were used to sellig giant lincolns did not know how to sell a small german car with great success. This led to it not being a sales success to justify all the These problems eventualy led to the end of a fine car and a company with real potential.

    The bottom line on this car is that if you are considering buying one do it. It only failed becuase of marketing problems with no problems under the hood or in the chassis.<!-- Signature -->
  13. This car has the wrong name !!

    Where i come from (England) this is a ford sierra has a whale tail and is driven everywhere by owners at full throttle regardless of pedestrians, traffic, or anything. you know this ?
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    this is not the ford sierra, it was made by a german company (merkur) but used ford parts, later on ford bought them out.
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    No, sorry but your wrong...theres a ford badge on the front and everything.<!-- Signature -->
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    wanna make a bet, that badge sais merkur my neighbour has one and it sais merkur.
  17. #17 SuperSonic, Aug 9, 2002
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    you are quite mistaken although the two cars in question are in a round about way the same car, Merkur has always been a Ford company, they used the SHO Mustang 2.3L turbo engine on these but they made a few modifications to it, being like the Cavaliwer/Sunfire, Talon/Eclipse, Camaro/Firebird, it's been done with lots of other cars, they made this car and the ford version, but sold them with different options to split thier income on the cars so the could hold a legal monopoly of the automotive world, if I've lost you it's all basic economics, this car is actualy a Merkur XR4TI<!-- Signature -->
  19. Re: This car has the wrong name !!

    it's the cavalier and the sunbird.....the sunfire is completely different
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    Actually the new Cavalier and the Sunfire arethe same car with a differnent body kit<!-- Signature -->
  21. Re: This car has the wrong name !!

    Sorry shefx but you don't know what you are talking about. While the Merkurs (The Scorpio included) were built in Germany, they were just another division of Ford. They made up the Merkur name to make it sound exotic and Europian, but Ford, being the Putts' that they are sold the cars through Mercury dealers. Now I ask you this; What does a Salesman who is used to selling big ol' Grand Marquies with the V8 know about a little 2-door Europian sports coupe with a 2.3 litre 4 and a five-speed??? That's why Merkur was only here for four short years (1985-1989)
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  22. #22 shefx, Aug 9, 2002
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    Re: This car has the wrong name !!

    supersonic you really want to annoy me dont you, i'll just have to pull out some REAL pictures of the MERKUR XR4TI and show you, arg darn whipersnapers. http://www.merkurtech.com/magarticles/cd-sep84/cd-sep84-02.jpg . there yah go a nice big picture for you to see the MERKUR emblem.
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    different badge yes, but underneath this is just a ford. in the same way, that the Kia Elan, is a piece of shit!...damn...I mean is a Lotus. Its nice to see you went to the trouble of scanning a picture but it doesn't change the fact - that.....
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  24. Re: This car has the wrong name !!

    dude no its a merkur,merkur is its own company they also made the scropio ,which is also a very good car. merkur is just another division of ford, just in europe.
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    So shefx, the fact that in Europe there is a Ford Scropio is nothing more then a big coincidence??? WOW! And you'd think a big company like Ford would get that name copyrighted or something. Well shefx, you may be wrong, but at least you're Canadian. That makes two of us.

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