I Think its retarded that...

Discussion in '2000 Hennessey Viper Venom 800TT' started by LaCosaNostra, Dec 17, 2002.

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    2.7 is not w/o slicks (i don't know where supercars.net got that #)

    Venom 800tt (street tires, from MOTORTREND):
    0-60: 3.21
    1/4 mile: 10.71 @ 137.6 mph

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    i'm too lazy to read big ass posts...so i'll just say that if u don't like Vipers...then i don't like u!
     
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    you have a camaro thats mad!!!!!!!!!i love the 69 model but i still love your camaro i know some people say their not special but thats there opinion
     
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    i like the old Corvette sting rays more!
     
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    the early "vipers" (cobras) are faster though, but the sting rays are very nice (12.8 @ 112 in 1/4 with 427s!) <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    But the Modern Day Corvette's are still nice...
    as i like Vipers...but not the Cobra's...
    i can't remember what this is leading to...
    but i'll just carry on like i know what i'm goin' on about!
     
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    SHUT UP! I like Ferrari's, Porsches and other "piece of crap sports cars" you are talking about. But I don't hate the Viper 800tt, it's fast as hell, and I respect it for that.
    But guess what? Speed in a straight line isn't all that I care about! I'd take a Ferrari anyday.
     
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    do people stil think this is a straight line car...?
     
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    if people would just go to hennesseyperformance.com or look at the dodge viper comparisons between other cars by MotorTrend, AND LOOKED AT THE TRACK TIMES WHICH I'VE POSTED HUNDREDS OF TIMES, people wouldn't think that.
     
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    or just put 1 + 1 together and ask urself y whould a straght line car(drag car) go production...?
     
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    the problem is different people difine strait line cars and different things. from your previous posts i can tell your definition and mine are not the smae to me a it is any car that can accomplisn better than avg accleration and has to have some kind of resemblence to the musscle cars of the past the hanlding factor doesnt have anything to do with it it can still be a strait line car even if it can make truns and make them well enough to win lemans GT2 class at the first try
     
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    well my opinion of a Straight line car is a car that only drives in a straight line...
    hence callin' it a straight line car...
     
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    yep that makes sense but the reality is there are a lot of fast cars out there that handle amazing but have no strait line performance at all

    "a car that only drives in a straight line">>> in the past cars where made with primarily strait line performance in mind but i dont think it would be safe to say that any auto manufacturer makes a strait line car(by your definition) so the viper will have to do.
     
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    Simply put, the viper is no straight line car.
     
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    y can't people all make messages that short...?
     
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    by Bluey's definition no production car in the world at the present time is a strait line car.
     
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    yes.......what's your point???

    I agree with Blueys' defintion, because no car manufactorer makes a 'straight line' car.

    That's why they have suspension on all cars and why all cars are able to turn and take corners.
    Now i'm pretty sure no production car is made to go just in a straight line, if that happened a car company wouldn't sell any.
    Sure there are cars that out perform others when it comes to handling (dodge viper can do that) but that doesn't mean they're straight line cars. (if the vipers a straight line car, and it can out handle porsche 911, ferrari 355, supraTT, NSX, vette, on a track, then those cars must be straight line cars to???) come on, the vipers not a straight line car.
     
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    since no car is made to perform only in a strait line cars that do better than average cars in a strait line have become known as strait line cars the definition of the term so to say has evolved over the years much like the word "supercar" has now become a term used to describe extreemly luxurios, high performance toys for rich ppl the term was coined in the 70 and was originally used to describe modified muscle cars.
     
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    "since no car is made to perform only in a strait line, cars that do better than average cars in a strait line have become known as strait line cars"


    Oh, now i get it, so according to your statement, because a......lamborhgini, ferrari, mclaren are faster than a "average car" in a straight line (or a lot of sports cars for that matter) those cars "have become known as strait line cars"???????????
     
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    No, strait line cars by my definition wold have to have some relative signifiace to the muscle cars of the day ie. front engine rear drive set up and also strait line performance would have to be one of the most important elements when the car waz desiged. ie. the viper strait line performance waz a major factor when they designed it same with the F-bodies, etc.
    Any car that i would consider a mordern muscle car id consider a strait line car. Muscle cars of the past were not at all good handling cars but u cant expect much more b/c of the tires, suspension set up, heavy sheet metal bodies but thanx to the advancements in automotive design the handling of these cars has improved.

     
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    Yeah, you're just going back on your previous statment.

    And you're just singling out American cars.

    The ferrari 550 is front engine, rear wheel drive.

    And to say any production car (or in this case, ALL american sports cars) are made with straight line performance as a main factor, is kind of bogus. The ferrari F50 does 60 in 3.3 seconds, so does the McLaren......oh that's right according to you these cars were also made for handling (which they were) YET cars like the vette, and viper are made for straight line performance only?
    if that were true, then look at the MOTORTREND comparison i keep posting, the viper seems to beat F355, 911, NSX...exc.

    Also, like i've said before, the viper was made to be a 90s version of the cobra, and as most ppl know, who know cars, the cobra was made with handling especially in mind. And i'll say this again, YOU'RE JUST SINGLING OUT AMERICAN CARS.
     
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    i kno i am singling out american cars the term "strait line car" is the same thing as a muscle car do japs make muscle cars? do europeans make muscle cars? as u said before no car maker in the world really makes a strait line car but for the sake of argument a lot of ppl still choose to use the term and thats ok but the definition has to be slightly bent to fit cars being made today to most ppl the term simply means a late model muscle car
     
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    "do japs make muscle cars? do europeans make muscle cars? "

    NO

    and do japs make straigt line cars? do europeans make straight line cars? do americans make straight line cars? NO

    (america did, BACK IN THE 60S AND 70S)
     
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    i agree but not completly b/c there are people out there who still chose to use the term but the definition has evlovled since the 70s so its not exactly the same thing u would call a strait line car clearly you refer to only the muscle cars and actually by the '74 things were pretty much gettin wrapped up its more like 63-72
     
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    IMO, the term "straight line car" shouldn't be used, because it's not true.
     

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