If I see one more flame on this car, we're gonna have words!

Discussion in '2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept' started by SSfearSS, Aug 9, 2002.

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    "SSSSPIT----Ting"....."Lookie Her uncle Mamma, dis damm ole Chevy is loud like my tractor or, or, like when put pop cans on our tires when we were knee high ta grasshoppur." YEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAA

    ps. Sorry, but picking on American car lovers is like beating shit out of migits,,,,"IT'S SOOOO MUCH FUN!!!!!!!"
     
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    "What do you know about cars? What do you know about anything? Cuz it's not ferrari or it's not Porsche? Give me a damn break this car is not just about acceleration moron and drives on the race tracks, and it's top speed is well over 220 mph."

    And obviously that's all it takes to be a good car in your book, some numbers on the internet, or from a track. I guess that's what makes me different, I see a car as more than its sum of parts and numbers. Because if you want something fast, like one of the guys said, get a bike, and save $100,000. If you want the name Porsche on the back, and that's all, then get a 944, or a 914. I want somewhat of a balance. I'd like a nice name that went fast, and had a fun personality. But I can't afford that right now, so I deal with what I have.

    That's my 2¢
     
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    yes the lingen#$%#er is teh fastest STREET LEGAL car its no way inhella production car when are poeple goign to realize that and what car with 770 hp and weighs 3300 lbs is gonna handlegood?! find me one and il beleiev u but i havent seen any lately

     
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    Check this out......everyone is always saying how jap cars have more tech. involved in them thats why there "sooooooooooooooooo awsome" and shlt like that.....first off they never mention why there so great....take note they never mention how much it takes to re inforce their gay 4 cyl. motors to be able to handle their 1000+bhp. and on top of that im going to bring up the obvios...name a gook car that can handle the 427tt vette.....that DIDNT cost 120,000+ you cant....you need a 800hp supra to come CLOSE but not win. all i got to say is american power and if you wanna talk about real cars go to europe
     
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    Look you arrogantly prejudiced @$$hole, if you're going to try to make a point, at least learn to spell, ok?

    Anyway, can you name ONE North American Hybrid that's available to the public?

    And yet, already Japanese manufacturers are bringing out performance hybrids, when American manufacturers don't even have one hybrid. Picture a 400hp, 450lbft, AWD NSX that gets 40mpg, goes from 0-100 in under 4 seconds (it's coming here in 2005). I'd consider that pretty high tech.

    Stock, NA Japanese cars with small displacement can perform as well as stock NA American cars with large displacement in their class, and they actually last (I've had enough bad experiences with American cars to tell you that their build quality is crap). I'd consider that pretty high tech.

    The record for gas mileage at 70mpg comes from Japan. I'd consider that pretty high tech.

    Smaller components on a more compact car that's more reliable. I'd consider that to be pretty high tech.

    Small cars that generally have more interior space than American cars, yet also have higher crash safety ratings than American cars. I'd consider that to be pretty high tech.

    Ever tried rally racing in a Mustang? Cars that make far better race cars for rally racing. I'd consider that to be more advanced (which relates to being more hi-tech).

    More efficient drivetrains. I.E. less drivetrain hp loss, hell some of Japan's AWD drivetrains suffer less hp loss than some of America's best RWD drivetrains. (compare the hp loss on a Skyline or Impreza to a Mustang SVT cobra, or Camaro SS, and you'll see what I mean). I'd consider that to be pretty high tech.

    No domestic car can even compare in hp/litre in an NA engine (whether or not it makes a difference in performance - it does, but I don't want to get into that argument here - doesn't matter, it's still a matter of bragging rights, and American manufacturers have bragged about hp/litre before, until Japanese manufacturers started beating them)

    Not to mention the introduction of various technologies used by American manufacturers today such as: VVT, ATTS, AWS, Night time Windshield night vision projection, Fuel injection, countless safety features, etc.


    Cost is high because of better build quality, not what it takes to get to that level of performance, and How about a TT Skyline GTR, that would only cost about the equivalent of $80,000 (USD) in Japan, and would be able to run pace-for-pace with the 427tt vette. And an 800hp Supra will win (though not always), not just "come CLOSE", if you don't believe me I can post a few clips. Anyway Drag racing is useless, and is no real test of a car's performance.

    There's not one 4cyl. Japanese car (that I know of) with over 800hp (a modified 2.0 litre WRX has that much power, check out Cobbtuning, there are a few other 4cyl. that run that much power, but most are V6 engines, and the ones that run over 1000hp are not 4cyl.)
     
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    This is gay as hell. Who cares about supras and skylines? I would take any N/A muscle car over one, then throw a turbo on it and walk all over any supra. And if im buying a performance car i could care less about how well the fuel economy is on it, seriously, and for thise porsche douche bag, most of us dont want to spend $150,000+ on a car just because it handle's good. This is THE CAR!
     
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    Ah, you poor delusional noob. Yet one more person who thinks that all the stock Japanese cars we get here are the best available and the normal price. Dude, they cost the exact same as the cars in their class (i.e. a Skyline GTR costs about the same in Japan as a Base Corvette does here, there are many more examples), and there are far faster versions of ALL Japanese cars than what we get here.

    And the point was that the cars have more technology in them (thus proving whots-iz-name wrong), not that they get better gas mileage.

    Read what I wrote (and the post it's in response to) THEN post.

    I dunno where the $150,000+ comes from, was not even discussed earlier.

    What does Porsche have to do with this? We're discussing Japanese cars, not German cars.

    Suit yourself, for you this may be THE CAR, as for me, I'm not going to obsess over one car that likely will never be made, I'll go after a car that has some form of quality control behind it, is a much better design, and can actually function as a well balanced, al-round car, I.E. fast, durable, handles well, agile, and can reach a high top speed as well.
     
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    FINALLY!!!,,,Someone that knows what the hell they are talking about....

    I am not a huge fan of Japanese cars my-self but, I truly believe they make a better car(I like European cars).

    Having Patriotism to my country is one thing, but if my country knowingly produces inferior products for me to spend my hard earned money on,. How patriotic is that??

    Maybe one of these days Amercan Car Manufactures will produce something that is not design to be thrown away after 4 years...Until then.....**** um...and ill keep talking shit.

    Much Love.....
     
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    Uhh? Fuckm much love?
     
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    It's called capitalism people. American manufacturers for the most part build cars to make the most money possible. Build quality, technology and all of that are not at the top of the list for them, money is. It's as simple as that. You can say all you want about American cars but what it all comes down to is the sales. To the idiot who said that you have to replace an American car after 4 years I could give you hundreds of examples of American cars lasting well past 300,000 km without any major problems.
     
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    well its sad to see foreigners talking crap about american cars. Most of them cant even change their oil without their mommies standing by them holding their peckers for them. I love to see foreigners trying to kill themselves in their aluminum go-carts. i dont have ant sports cars but let me hook my chevy truck to one of your "supercars" and ill drag you all over the country without even breaking a sweat.
     
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    You know very little about the outside world.
     
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    i cant stand people like u talkin shit outta your ass goin to every forum u can find and creating a crap topic like: 'a 800TT will kick this POS ass!' or:
    a sledgehammer will kill this...'
    so u can stick your shitty sledgehammer up your shitty ass and shit all over it!and u do it for:
    1.attention
    2.cos u know that the car YOU ARE flaming will beat your car in most aspects
    3. cos you are a retard.
    so, have a nice day. punk.
     
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    ok,lookin back on it, i can see wat u mean about not makin much sense, but i will put it a different way for u.
    i mean, hes complainin about ppl flamin this camaro, ppl saying that this car will smoke it. if u look in nearly every skiline and supra forum, u get ppl flamin skilines and supras, sayin that the ZL-1 or sledgehammer or wat ever others will smoke this and shit on it, so i dont blame all the people who flame the american cars. we get the same abuse as well you know. ok, maybe i was stereotypin that dude who started this topic, but hey, its not his fault, its just the impression i got. first impressions can be misleading.
     
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    Number one... I am an a mamerican. I love loud cars. AMERICANS LOOK FOR MORE IN CARS THAN POWER, LIKE LUXURY, LIKE PORSCHE. I dont want to give porsche a bad name and be like "IT IS THE BEST CAR EVER ADN CAN BEAT THIS PIECE OF CRAP" becuase ofr 1 this isnt a piece of crap, and 2 a porsche couldnt beat it. My point is I wouldnt mind a more luxurious car than this. A little mroe style, uniquness if you will. But it is an amazing peice of engineering.
     
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    **** YOU rustang. Noone asked your opinion. In the last forum i talked shit to piss yall off. In this forum im being serious. GET A LIFE. GET OUT OF THIS SAME DAMN CAR FORUM.
     
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    If you need help to delete trash in this forum, Rustang, just send me a PM.
     
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    Screw you vintage. Oh and RUSTANG I have 2 cars Preowned 2001 Porsche carerra. 2002 Cadillac Escalade. Not some pricy exotic cars. Not plain ordinary cars. BUT IM PROUD OF THEM.
     
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    LOL! I love that guy (the one you quoted),he is so stupid I will not even quote him. Exotics=porsche, BMW, Mercedes, and of course the two italian ladies <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
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    Have you ever driven a Porsche? They are hardly luxurious, hell a Mini Cooper is more spacious than those Porsches. I have driven Porsches from the 1980s all the way up to the brand new Carreras.

    When it comes down to pricks like you, it's all about brand loyalty, it has nothing to do with the car itself, it's just the name and the price tag and how few people have them. Still on Porsche, a 1988 Pontiac Fiero (A $10,000 economic sports car back in 1987-1988) could produce higher g's on the skidpad than a Carrera 2 or Carrera 4 and go through the slalom about 3 MPH faster than the 911 Carrera. Keep in mind, Porsches that were five and six times the retail cost of this car couldn't keep up with it through the twisties.

    The only Porsche you will ever come close to owning would be a beat up, POS 944. The 944 redefines "Porsche quality engineering"...
     
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    YOU DUMBASS
    2001 PORSCHE CARERRA = 67,000$
    I PAID 50,000 for mine PREOWNED.
    PORSCHES ARE LUXURIOUS TO A POINT. I NEVER SAID SPACIOUS EITHER. THE WORD I SHOULD OF USED IS SPORTY/LUXURIOUS. AND TO ME THEY ARE NOT EXOTIC. I SEE PORSCHES EVERY DAY. TO YOU EXOTIC IS ANY FOREIGN CAR. TO ME ITS ANY RARE, FOREIGN CAR. AND I REALLY DONT CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME. I COULD POST PICS BUT I DONT HAVE A DIGITAL CAMERA. MABEY I WILL BORROW A FRIENDS. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO TO PROVE I OWN ONE BESIDES PHOTOS.
     
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    OMG FORD MAN. GOOD JOB YOU SURE PROVED ME WRONG. I GUESS SOME SHITTY ASS PONTIAC COULD BEAT IT. YOU WOULD OF WON IF THAT WAS THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO PROVE!!! I DONT CARE IF A FUCKIGN TAURAS COULD BEAT IT. IM NOT SAYING PORSCH IS THE BEST. IM NOT SAYING IT COULD BEAT THIS CAR. THIS CAR COULD BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF A PORSCHE. READ THE GODDAMN FORUMS BEFORE YOU POST.

    GOD YOU FUC*ing IDIOT. Oh god please a 944.

    AND WAHT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH A 944

    IT IS NOT THAT BAD. PROBABLY BETTER "LOOKING" THAN YOUR PNTIAC FIERO. PROBABLY COULDNT BEAT IT THOUGH.

    ITS NOT LIKE YOYU ARE EVER GONNA GET UP TO YOUR TOP SPEED IN ANYCAR> MABEY ACCELERATION BUT NOT TOP SPEED. SO I COULD DRIVE A STYLISH PORSCHE CARERRA FOR A DECENT PRICE OF 50,000 (Certified porsche preowned car) WITH A DECENT ENGINE OR YOURR BUSTED PIECE OF SHIT PONTIAC WHICH BY THE WAY TOTALLY FUCKED UP THE NEW 2004 GTO. THEY TOTALLY RUIINED THAT CAR
     
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    I reached top speed in my new car the fourth day I owned it. I reached top speed in my old truck everyday.

    What the hell is wrong with a 944? What the hell isn't wrong with a 944? It's the black sheep of Porsche's flock, plagued with so many problems. Electrical gremlins plagues thousands of 944 owners, power steering commonly failed due to a poorly made bracket. Water mixing with oil was another common problem thanks to problems with the intercooler and piping in the turbo models.

    Speaking of, you are almost forced to buy the turbo model, because the non-turbo is extrodinarily sluggish and underpowered, which is why everyone other week, you can find a Porsche 944 non-turbo on Ebay that's powered by a small block Chevy V8.

    Looks are in the eye of the beholder, even Carroll Shelby said the Fiero is beautiful car (For an 80s car), of course then there are those hundreds of thousands original Fiero owners that saw the beauty and performance. Sure it made not have had a fancy name behind it or made in Europe, but by God, it sure out did that fancy name and made in Europe.
     
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    Yes brand loyalty, so loyal to GM that I've never owned one. I've owned both a Ford truck and my new Mazda. My brother, Ford Expedition and Ford Mustang GT. In fact the only GMs in the family belong to my father, who is trading his in and my sister. Beyond that, everything but GMs.
     

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