If I see one more flame on this car, we're gonna have words!

Discussion in '2000 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Concept' started by SSfearSS, Aug 9, 2002.

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    i like Jap cars and I like american cars, but the cars are based on totally different concepts. Japs prefer the small car, americans prefer the large car. The jap cars are very good road handlin cars, the americans however are very good at straight line performance. The jap cars have a very good potential if they are turbo to kick an american cars ass, but the american cars dont use the turbo as much and instead go for larger displacement for tree rippin torque. Skyline verses Mustang, or NSX verses Corvette. Very equal cars but not in price. Americans have to import cars like the Skyline and NSX which in turn jacks the price up about 30 to 40 thousand dollars. The Skyline in american dollars in Japan only costs you about 35,000, same as a fully loaded Mustang Cobra. But in Japan it would cost you about 80,000 for a mustang. Myself I own a '91 Plymouth Laser AWD Turbo and run 10.30's in it at 135 mph. I love jap motors in american cars
     
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    BOOOO!

    I love American Motors in American Cars......

    Maybe American Motors in Jap cars...

    But no Jap motors! No sorry But Japs dont make good motors at all! its not my Opinion, its a fact The skyline u are talking about how fast is it? compared to the Cobra.

    I bet the Cobra will out perform it in 0-60 and top speed

    Skylines top speed is 155, which is SLOW!
     
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    this car is a myth and legend among muscle.somle peopel just post here to diss this car that is not nice and it is very low to do so.
    i prefer this car to japanese cars why, because it is big, bold, brash and powerful.It has a v8 the thing that i appreciate the most and a big block v8.
     
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    Hey guys guys guys,
    This is the american Car but , Im not so sure if i like the Type of car it is dont get me wrong i love the camaro but why isnt it a charger or a shelby 500 <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A> but im still young so i guess i still got a lot to learn but i love this car where can i buy it <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/cboardhtml/emoticons/smile.gif"></A> and could i get a price estimate on this ??? hehe just curious
     
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    Dude you are confusing many things.I like this car because it is a big brutal modern muscle car.A camaro is a camaro don't mix it with other cars. If you want to amke a car like this you need first to buy a big block crate engine then rework all suspension front and rear change sway bars, change braking system and strenghten the chassis.

    regards

    426hemistage8
     
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    Did you honestly think I wouldn't find your stupid ass in here?

    Anybody who is interested can wander over to the 1999 Skyline GTR forum and watch this joker get owned repeatedly.

    I have corrected you NUMEROUS times on this false information, and I will continue to do so.

    The base R34 (which has the same performance characteristics as the C5 Corvette) retailed for 40k dollars in Japan.

    The GTR N1 (the "super performance" model- like the Z06) sold for ~50k dollars retail in Japan. The N1 is a 3150 lb car with 450PS and 417ft-lbs. It is more powerful (and has more torque) than the Z06, the same weight, but has the large advantage of AWD. I'd say they are pretty much on par with each other.

    The GNX has been superhyped by kids who don't know any better. It was fast for its day (high 13 second car), but it wouldn't stand a chance against a 2.5L STI or even 2.0L Mitsubishi Evolution.

    You continually want to compare the Z06 to the base GTR....except the Z06 costs 25% more in their respective markets.
     
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    You wanna know something! you fool! You only post the numbers you wanna post because it makes the car you like appear better! So if there were 3 tests on a skyline, Let's just give an example!

    Lets say Buick did a 13.7 quarter a 13.34 quarter and a 13.1 quarter
    and then skyline did a 13.7 quarter a 13.5 quarter and a 13.2 quarter!

    Since you like the skyline you are gonna put the 13.2 quarter and since you dont like the Buick GNX, your gonna put the 13.7 quarter! OK that is your problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    and Im sure u dont mean that GNX is a superhyped car by kids, because it is less known thatn the skyline, you Moron of a man!
     
  8. #183 27GTR, Jul 24, 2004
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    Re: If I see one more flame on this car, we're gonna have words!

    You were saying?

    Do you have a published source for your numbers?


    According to Muscle Car Review magazine....a compilation of different magazines, the FASTEST time achieved by a stock PRODUCTION GNX was 13.7


    SOURCE!
    http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-50fast.shtml

    I don't want to hear what your brother's friend's cousin's mom heard.
     
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    Ya , u keep ignoring what I said, u need to take your own advice and read before you write! Also I said that there are sources that say it runs 13.43...on top of that Like I said before If there were 3 tests and the sources are Real tests u are still gonna use the slowest time to make the car Im saying look slower!
    If SKyline was such a good car they would start making em here!
     
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    No, that's just like saying if the '02 Z06 or Viper was a good car, they would be selling them in Japan. Completely unrelated.

    Let's see those sources. I'm still waiting!
     
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    Ok look on the Nissan SKyline R34 Forum, You will now find sources( 8 of them I believe)...! Ya Buick Kicks Skylines Tail!
     
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    Those aren't sources....those are unsubstantiated websites....and the kicker is..they people's personal websites....you failed again.
     
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    You failed Life!

    There are no articles or sources saying anything except the car and driver one which did a 4.7 0-60....Thats all I could find, Now listen ... If there are many numbers like 13 flat, 13.2, 13.42, 13.43, 13.7 and any other numbers they all must have been recorded from a certain test, why would there be 13 flat and 13.2, etc...If it really didnt happen?( The fact that there are so many LOW 13 runs proves that the car can indeed do better than 13.7 Now doesnt it!)

    THINK about it!
     
  14. #189 27GTR, Aug 2, 2004
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    No...to me since so few actually concur on the best times (and it isn't in print on any of these sites), it looks more like "I heard it ran....".

    There are TONS of articles on the car.....

    http://www.gnttype.org/media/media.html
     
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    If Jap cars are so reliable, why do they get rid of cars 4 years and older over there? anyways, this ZL-1 is truely amazing, and theres not many cars that are going to beat it in a straight line,BUT its a concept! THE FASTEST PRODUCTION SUPERCAR IN THE WORLD IS THE SSC AERO! IT HAS A FASTER QUARTER THEN THE ENZO AND PORCHE CARERRA GT! QUICKER TO 60 AND A HIGHER TOP SPEED!
     
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    "If Jap cars are so reliable, why do they get rid of cars 4 years and older over there?"

    Maybe because they don't.
     
  17. #192 BuickGNXkillsALL, Aug 4, 2004
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    ZL1 Motor for sale go to www.Jegs.com, plus buy a Camaro SS, Z28, or even the v6 version.....Insert motor, change tranny, bigger driveshaft and diffrential...and U got a ZL1 for cheaper than a skyline!
     
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    Why not just build a kit car?


    For the 13k dollars it costs fo that engine, why not just plumb a Nissan V8 with TT and stick it in a Nissan March? That's upwards of 800HP in a 2800lb car.
     
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    The 13k dollars of this engine are an excellent investment.It is less fragile than a nissan v8 and more powerful so i agree with him.
     
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    because American Motors are better than Japanese motors!
     
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    That's an interesting guess.

    The Nissan President's V8 has been built to over 1700HP in street form. I'd hardly call that "fragile".

    Furthermore, the 2JZ, RB26, 3s-GTE, and SR20DET are known world wide for their strength.

    The American engines that were known to be bulletproof were the cast-iron 6's of the 1970's.

    The LS6 is Aluminum.....and you want to compare it to the President's Iron block w/ titanium valves and 4 valves/cylinder?
     
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    can you prouve what you are talking?
     
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    Do you have a subscription to "Wagon" magazine?

    It was either the February or March issue....
     
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    Do you have any proof of this?
     
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    I seriously do think that American Motors are Buicl more tough than Japanese motors and The best Diesel Motors are American, Detroit Diesel and Cummins, and General Motors is this close to owning isuzu...man they make Duramax Diesel, damn chevy is japanese, Til GM owns Isuzu soon, because Gm owns 49% of isuzu.. But I think that carburator, pushrod , big displacement Rules!
     

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