is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

Discussion in '2002 Koenigsegg CC 8S' started by 426 Hemistage 8, Aug 9, 2002.

  1. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    if you look at the stats of the 2000 kpenigsegg it is faster.
     
  2. I am just wondering now everyone start debating :D
     
  3. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    It is a production car, but is not avialible in the U.S. yet. It is debatable weather or not it is faster then the Mclaren because the 2 are really close in specs<!-- Signature -->
     
  4. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    The top speeds are almost identical, and can varry depending on weather and maitainance on the car. In top shape, it would most likely come down to the skill of the driver in a race. Have a nice day.<!-- Signature -->
     
  5. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    This is still a proto , not enough advanced for a top speed test at Nardo.
    that's what they told to Sport Auto that made a top speed test.
    They refused to send a car for the contest.
    B-Engineering did it with one of the 2 protos of the Edonis.
     
  6. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    WILL smoke mclaren

    facts:
    1997 McLaren F1
    0 - 60 mph 3.2 seconds
    0 - 100 mph 7.7 seconds
    Top Speed 386.2 kph / 240.0 mph
    0 - ¼ mile 11.6 seconds

    well lookie here 3.2 sec for mclaren but the 1/4 is 11.6 sec this wud definitly smoke it
     
  7. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from WakkaWu</i>
    <b>WILL smoke mclaren

    facts:
    1997 McLaren F1
    0 - 60 mph 3.2 seconds
    0 - 100 mph 7.7 seconds
    Top Speed 386.2 kph / 240.0 mph
    0 - ¼ mile 11.6 seconds

    well lookie here 3.2 sec for mclaren but the 1/4 is 11.6 sec this wud definitly smoke it </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    What an idiot.<!-- Signature -->
     
  8. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    Well in my opinion about even, The Mclaren has less power but weighs less, but this car has more low end torque to get it off the line. Plus this thing is supercharged so all you really have to do is put on a smaller blower pulley and you are making more power. I'll take this car! plus it's alot cheaper
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from SvSi Viper</i>
    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from WakkaWu</i>
    <b>WILL smoke mclaren

    facts:
    1997 McLaren F1
    0 - 60 mph 3.2 seconds
    0 - 100 mph 7.7 seconds
    Top Speed 386.2 kph / 240.0 mph
    0 - ¼ mile 11.6 seconds

    well lookie here 3.2 sec for mclaren but the 1/4 is 11.6 sec this wud definitly smoke it </b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    What an idiot.</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->
    As always...
     
  10. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    THis is NOT a prototype, they have been in production since 2001,

    You DO NOT deserve to have a 911 GT1 as your avatar<!-- Signature -->
     
  11. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    YES, this is a production car, and YES, it DOES smoke the McLaren.<!-- Signature -->
     
  12. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from tiger005</i>
    <b>THis is NOT a prototype, they have been in production since 2001,

    You DO NOT deserve to have a 911 GT1 as your avatar</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Me ??

    It's not a 911 GT1 at all.........

    And if you don't believe me , find serious sources , koenigsegg can claim whatever they want , their car have been seen in NO mag and tested NOWHERE !!!<!-- Signature -->
     
  13. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    then how did this site get their numbers, you dip????!!!!<!-- Signature -->
     
  14. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from S7-311</i>
    <b>then how did this site get their numbers, you dip????!!!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    You can find softwares that when you give them: power , weight , torque , give you an estimated time.

    It's the same here for the Cerbera Speed 12 , not 0-60 test.<!-- Signature -->
     
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    <!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from S7-311</i>
    <b>then how did this site get their numbers, you dip????!!!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->if you look around, notice lots of stats are wrong on this site
     
  16. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    i dont know its in production but i dont think any car could smoke a mac but some could beat it.









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  17. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

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    <b><!-- QUOTE --><center><hr width="90%"></center><blockquote><i>Quote from tiger005</i>
    <b>THis is NOT a prototype, they have been in production since 2001,

    You DO NOT deserve to have a 911 GT1 as your avatar</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    Me ??

    It's not a 911 GT1 at all.........

    And if you don't believe me , find serious sources , koenigsegg can claim whatever they want , their car have been seen in NO mag and tested NOWHERE !!!</b></blockquote><center><hr width="90%"></center><!-- END QUOTE -->

    I have seen it in lots of mags... but maybe I'm part of the world wide Koenigsegg conspiracy... (mostly European papers but "Car and driver" is american as far as I know). None of the papers tested the top speed but since the tests were at Koenigseggs site in southern sweden and there are no high speed tracks capable of speeds up to 392 kph near...

    Since not many are built (just 10 a year) and Koenigsegg probably only have one demo car it's not very strange they don't want to send it to America (where it's actually not legal to drive) or Italy (which is quite far from Sweden).

    You can buy a Koenigsegg today if you feel like (and have the money). But it isn't mass produced if that what you mean of production car. 10 cars a year is not a very high rate... maybe that's why they don't want to lend their only demo car to that paper, especially since a demo car probably is pretty hardly misshandled... but still, if produced and sold that's a production car to med even if they build the cars by hand...

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  18. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    I think it would depend more on driver skill since both the cars are so close performance wise.
     
  19. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    i think you are right.
     
  20. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    Not in production yet.
    No for sale yet.
    Never tested.

    vaporware for the moment , nothing more.

    Explain me why they refused to send it at Nardo in may ?
     
  21. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    Not in production yet?
    Yes it is. I have even seen the factory, and they very much built the car. If you read the info on the top of the page about the car you will see that the first car was delivered during the Geneva car show.

    No for sale yet?
    Read above.

    Never tested?
    Well then i guess i read a fake in one of sweden's most read car magazines.

    They refused to send it at Nardo?
    I have read somewhere, can't remeber where, that they did go to Nardo and got a top speed of 392 km/h. But that's really not important as that top speed is a result of ratio in the gearbox. So if they had a straight long enough surely they are able to get it up to 500 km/h.


    Would it smoke a SuperMac? (McLaren F1)
    Well, it wouldn't really smoke it, i'm really not sure if it would defeat it at all on a straight road. But on a racetrack I think that the McLaren F1 wouldn'd stand much of a chance. But, as were made clear, that test is yet to have happened, so I can't swear on it.
     
  22. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    i would have say the same
     
  23. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    Now seriously. . . do you want a foreign supercar to be faster than a domestic supercar? The car is clean, and it is not important which one is faster. What is important is that the McLaren F1 is one of the first supercars put into production.. . . Do I dare say that the Mclaren is a blueprint for upcoming production supercars? I think I just did. Comparing these two cars is like comparing Michael Jordon to Larry Bird. Who would win in a b-ball game? Duh, Jordan, so in other words, DUH the MClaren would win!
     
  24. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    it could but it is not sure it would.
     
  25. Re: is this a production car? and does it smoke the mclaren??

    I believe that a CC would beat a F1 around a race track, just as an f50 can. But the F1 is a car that is not about qualities that can be measured, it is about the qualitites that you can only feel. The steering, braking, and shifting may not be the quickest, but they have feel that no other car can touch. The ground plane shear suspension on the f1 is a great idea, but compromises the f1s lateral grip. The target for the F1 was to have a minimal amount of downforce. Downforce is very tempramental and is not good for a car driving on varied road conditions. I think the CC could be one of the all time great supercars, but the F1 seems untouchable in many areas. Gordon Murray said faster cars may come, the no car will be a better drivers car.
     

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