Hi Harka, Nice post, balanced. "Soon they're going to sell cars if they just claim that Schumacher farted out of his arrogant ass in the factory's direction while the cars where being manufactured..." LOL, that would be sold as a special edition with a 25% premium. "I mean that by emphasizing this Germanic technotcratic bullshit Ferrari has partially lost the sense of occasion from its cars. Take the 599 for example. It's not very beautiful, there are faster cars even from Lamborghini and it's not that nice a place to be. So it's no beautiful GT like 456 used to be. Nor is it an F40. It's just a piece of very expensive semi-fast carbon fibre..." I share that sentiment. The 599 looks like a Corvette copy with extra sails attached to somehow look Ferrari-ish. The F430 at least has the excuse of being optimized for performance for not looking as good as the old Magnum PI 308 GTS. That is a shame because there were very good looking Ferraris just a few years back. Laborghini, I think has more success in maintaining a distinctive look (maybe visual impact is the term) across all its models. On the performance angle, the F430 is very well engineered. Most magazines praise it's controllability and driver feedback. In stock form they are quite close to the Gallardo doing laps on a track. In GT3 racing, the F430 versions are winning on tracks against competing Gallardo and Porsche 911's. But to Lamborghini's credit, I think they have designed the Gallardo platform with a higher potential than the F430 (which came out later than the Gallardo). A Gallardo with stock 500hp + is relatively underpowered. It can take 800 hp with no problem. The F430 with 800hp would probably need more reworking to be controllable.