Lamborghini Murcielago vs. Zonda C12-S

Discussion in '2002 Lamborghini Murciélago' started by CarreraGtRacer, Jan 19, 2003.

  1. Top Gear tested the two and the results were quite disturbing for the Murcielago...the Zonda "mopped the floor" with the Murcielago...It was pretty sad but none the less this car is awesome!!!
     
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    No surprise, this car is simply too heavy.
     
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    thats pretty bad for lambo, they had what like 40 years experience making fast cars, then pagani comes along and builds a better car without any experience (as far as i know) i guess they might have gotten help from some where i dunno
     
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    i don't care, i still love this car
     
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    mercedes benz makes a 7.3 litre V12 engine for the pagani. so they have help:)
     
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    What the hell is wrong with you?
     

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    Horacio Pagani actually got his experience working at Lamborghini, plus his company is one of the best suppliers of carbon fibre products to other manufacturers. The Zonda though is really more comparable to the Ferrari Enzo, with that carbon fibre monocoque. Personally, I prefer the Murcielago for looks, and the all wheel drive sounds like fun.
     
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    Heres another quote from Top Gear. "The XJ220 was designed soley to be the fastest car in the world while the Diablo was designed soley to be the biggest head turner. Dynamically, its a brute, on a twisting turning country lane an Escort Cosworth would leave it for dead". They're talking about the previous model I know but Lamborghini desgin their cars mostly for show. Though both are true supercars the Zonda's desgin philosophy differs probably leaning more towards the performance end. Like the Enzo its is designed to go fast in all aspects not just in a line. "now lets face it, nowadays 0-60 times, absolutely meaningless, top speed figures, totally meaningless" quote from the Lambo Murc vs Zonda comparison video. The Murcielago is still an awesome car but its more of a pin-up supercar in my opinion. download that Murc vs Zonda video and also Best_Motoring-SuperCar_Race from Kazaa to see what I mean.
     
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    Zonda C12-S although I'd be happy with either
     
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    I would rather have the Lamborghini, for different reasons. first off, if i needed maintaince, there are many Lambo "fixer upers", but if i had a Zonda and tried to get maintaince for it, it would be hell trying to find a place for it. and also Lamborghini happens to be a very favorite company of mine, and i love this cars style and overall chassis design, the Zonda is a beauty, i actually think the Zonda looks more like a supercar, and is more of a head turner, but im not sure, either would be a awesome to have.
     
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    100% C12 S

    Mafalda
     
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    c12s is 6 seconds faster than the Lambo, 1:23 vs 1:29 on Lotus testing track. however, i think 6 seconds is a little bit strange, i mean, too much! cuz it's only a one minute track, less than 3 seconds sounds more reasonable.
     
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    Well, the Lambo probably lost a second or two to get rolling.. AWD remember?? The Pagani could just floor the throttle... So around the track, the Zonda probably picked up another 4 seconds over the Lambo. Sound a little more reasonable?
     
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    When the zonda was in development there wasn't a tyre around that could stick the amount of power this thing was putting down and the lightweight nature of the car doesn't give it any traction at low speeds. Although over 60mph you would have enough downforce to overcome some of the wheelspin which would make cornering it much easier then the heavier lambo. The lambo is the car to own in this comparison for many reasons, it's mass produced (as mass produced as a supercar can get) so for that reason if will bring down the cost of parts etc. AWD everyone knows supercars are great for some summmer time cruising garanteed if it rains and you are driving your zonda any lambo owner will rock your world. Tiff did a test of the lambo on a wet road course and the thing stuck like there was no tomorrow you couldn't have had a more balanced machine for variable weather conditions. Not only that but the lambo affords it's driver far more creature comforts than the zonda which is more of a no holds bar race car, the lambo while not quite a GT car is leaning more in the direction of say the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. An amazing car none the less and besides maybe a Koenigsegg s8 this is the car I would buy.
     
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    maybe its got such good wet traction because it weighs SO MUCH more
     
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    Probably has more to do with the 4wd vs 2wd aspect than the weight although I am sure it does factor in.
     
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    Murcielago and Zonda aren't the same class, compare their prices and performances. Murcielago is heavier and more road oriented car (don't forget AWD), Zonda is race car on the road in fact (surprisingly the ride isn't that uncomfortable). It's not easy to decide which one to choose. Rather Zonda.
     
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    Question...The 911 Turbo is AWD but it doesn't have to have easy start and then you actually floor it...Why's that with the Lamborghini? Wouldn't this effect the 0-60 times?
     
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    dont know, maybe its just too much for the clutch if you just floor it when standing still, big 4wd drivetrain is harder to get going than a 2wd, maybe thats the reason ?
     


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    true pagani used t o work in Lamborghini.
    speed: pagani
    head turner: both of them
    price: Lamborghini

    i read a shoot out in autocar abbout last year in one of my trips to asia(probably thailand) and it has a comparison between lamborghini murcielago, pagani zonda c12 and the b.engineering edonis. pagani came out to be number 1

     


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    true pagani used t o work in Lamborghini.
    speed: pagani
    head turner: both of them
    price: Lamborghini

    i read a shoot out in autocar abbout last year in one of my trips to asia(probably thailand) and it has a comparison between lamborghini murcielago, pagani zonda c12 and the b.engineering edonis. pagani came out to be number 1

     
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    yeah I think your right...Thanks for the info
     
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    No, its simply because Porsche's clutch system is better. That's it.. simple reason. The Lambo's clutch was designed for daily driveability rather than brute strength in mind.
     

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    Murcielago and Zonda are comparable, but no two Zondas are the same. ZOnda C12 S can have anywhere from 555 hp to over 600 hp (racing spec). Racing spec is probably closer to Enzo in performance....Perhaps it was this Zonda that made 6 seconds ahead of Murcielago in Lotus track??? Zonda C12S with 555 hp is more comparable to Murcielago. Not much difference in acceleration:

    Sport Auto test:
    Zonda C12 S 555 hp:
    0-62 mph: 3.7s
    0-125 mph: 11.2s

    Auto (Italia) test:
    Murcielago 580 hp:
    0-62 mph: 3.6s
    0-125 mph: 11.54s

    Zonda is a little faster in the mid-range acceleration, but Murcielago is a little faster above 150 mph (because Zonda has terrible aerodynamics, and Murcielago has short 5th and 6th gears).

    For handeling, I've heard different magazines say different things...some like one, some like the other... but Zonda has stiffer chassis, is lighter, and has more downforce.... 4WD or 2WD is preference.


    BTW 4WD can help you have a faster start if you use the "drop clutch" technique (raise rpms to 6000, and drop the clutch as sharply as possible). The Lamborghini Diablo VT and Murcielago both can do this.
     
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    C-12S The Lambo's too heavy.
     

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