Might be a stupid question but.....

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by FerrariKing, Jun 30, 2008.

  1. I was just thinking about patents. i dont exactly know how they work in regards to people copying you etc. but was the "automobile" patented, and if so, does the patent still stand today?
    and if so... do manufacturers pay royalties?
     
  2. i think that may be a legit question.

    SC.Net you may answer
     
  3. lol, ferrariking thinks he could make it rich by patenting the automobile
     
  4. I've just patented 'FerrariKing'. 10 bucks per post please.
     
  5. george selden patented the automobile, but the patent was later claimed invalid by a court on appeal.
     
  6. Anyone know how much bands get for having their songs played or mentioned or whatever on media? I know it varies but any examples would be nice.

    Like how DefJam gave LL Cool J complete ownership over all of his songs after being with them for so long, it's gotta be awesome still getting paid after the music creation is long gone.
     
  7. you realize patents all expire after give-or-take 20 years?

    unfortunately in the US and some other countries copywrights in certain circumstances are effectively unending (so that e.g. something like Micky Mouse is still not in the public domain)
     
  8. I remember reading about an actor having a part in a crappy movie at the beginning of his career and how he still gets like $0.25 checks in the mail once a month or something. Its probably pretty decent money to a rapper, but when you're bringing in S.W.A.T./Deep Blue Sea money...just a drop in the bucket.
     
  9. Yeah true. I'm gonna knock you out is prob his only mainstream/popular moneymaking track.

    Makes me want to become some corny party & event songwriter so my shit keeps bringing in dough for a long time. Like Kool & The Gang's Celebration, or Queen's We Are The Champions or whatever.

    Hella interesting subject to say the least, I'm gonna stewapedia it up and see if I can find anything.
     
  10. Why is that unfortunate? if you know any of the crazy ways companies use patent law to their advantage that would be hte lease of your worries.
     
  11. Trademarked*

    ™
     
  12. Also if you try and file a patent for something already existing it will most likely not be allowed.

    Also what you're talking about with copyrights being unending, that's only if they're maintained. If Disney stopped caring about Mickey for 50 years or however long the last copyright lasted then he'd become public domain.


    Oh, and copywriting is to do with advertising.
     
  13. Disney became successful adapting stories out of the public domain (Cinderella, Pinocchio); then subsequently had the law changed so that its own original creations would never become public domain in turn (every time they are about to they get the US congress or whatever to pass a special extension).
     
  14. good luck justifying that, troll.
     
  15. copywright lol
     
  16. #17 stewacide, Jun 30, 2008
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    No, copyrights typically end 50 years after the death of the author. In the US however Disney has successfully lobbied the government to make an exception essentially to protect Disney IP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse#Legal_issues

    ...in other countries it's perfectly legal to e.g. share old Disney cartoons over P2P, or create derivative works, because they are out of copyright (because they're so old).

    edit -- you're thinking of a trademark, which has to be maintained (and even a short lapse will cause it to become invalid: MUCH sorter than 50 years)
     
  17. Idiocracy is on HBO On-Demand again. What was that shit they all drank in big tubs through straws? I want some of that while I watch it, before I jack off to that mixed SNL #%[email protected]
     
  18. #19 Max Payne, Jun 30, 2008
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    Yeah, a 20 year exception...once. This happened once and you are saying they "keep on doing it every time their date is going to come up."

    Making a cinderella movie vs. wanting your own characters protected is different, in fact I'm sure you can make a cinderella movie because laws allow for folk tales like that to remain in public domain.
     
  19. Brawndo? The thirst mutilator?
    It's got electrolytes.
     
  20. For patents, it depends on how you define your claim. Best is if you can define your claim in a very broad sense in order to prevent people from "by-passing" your invention. However, this also means it can overlap other existing inventions, and may not be approved. It is the applicant's duty to make sure that you are not crossing into other patents. It's a long process and since time is money, you rather spend money on making sure of that.

    After the patent is approved, there's a limited time before you have to renew it in order to keep owning it. Of course, you can sell the rights to make money if you don't have the resource to capitalize it.

    "Automotive" as a patent will be possible before anyone else made automotive. Another thing is, if someone else can prove that you released info on your patented idea a year before you applied for it, it will be void. Then anyone can use it without getting into trouble.
     
  21. Hmm, I always thought it was some thick cheese-whiz(™) type substance.

    Maybe I just wanted an excuse to drink cheeze-whiz.



    brb watchin ow my balls
     
  22. That 2nd part only applies internationally. In the U.S. you've got a year after you release your idea to the public to patent it.
     
  23. Pinocchio was created (as a book) only ~60 years before Disney made a movie out of it for free as it was in the public domain

    edit -- also very troubling is the fact that a lot of music by long-dead artists won't enter the public domain in the US (and will keep enriching these people's great-great grandchildren): what is the possible logic behind continued copyright for Elvis or Jimmy Hendrix music? Is it supposed to encourage them to make more? <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A> <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A> <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  24. was it found to be a generic device and hence free to be manufactured by anyone?

    i spose another question is, if someone is to produce another vehicle that looks very similar to another manufacturer, can they sue for copying or anything like that? have there been cases to reference?
     

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