Modern houses in your town/city/country?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Aych Es Vee, Apr 27, 2017.

  1. What do they look like?
    One thing I've noticed when travelling, is how different our Australian generally houses look. (old and new)
    Most local councils specify options how new houses must look, and amenities they must have.

    ie; every new house MUST have a double garage. They must have 2 or 3 facades on the front. (part brick, part render, part stone tile, part wood, part cladding, etc... Windows are generally tall. Roof tiles must be flat type, not curved. Or you can have a metal roof.
    And you also must have things like a large rain water tank (more than 5000L), which connects to your toilets, and washing machine, and garden taps). You must have either solar hot water or a heat pump. You must have double glazed windows.

    ............... and they wonder why house prices keep rising? You spend $700,000+, and get told what to do with it.

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  2. https://www.nrdc.org/experts/meg-wa...ncy-standards-set-stage-zero-net-energy-homes
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    The majority of the changes to the standards will apply to single-family and low-rise multifamily buildings. California has set goals that all new residential buildings will be zero net energy (ZNE) by 2020 and new commercial buildings will be ZNE by 2030. In general terms, a ZNE building is one that produces as much energy (generally through onsite renewable energy) as it consumes.

    The major residential energy savings measures include:

    • High-performance walls: The standards would require increased wall insulation in most climate zones. These levels can be met with a variety of construction assemblies, including both 2x4 and 2x6 construction.
    • High-performance attics: The standards give builders the options to either increase attic sealing and insulation or move ducts into conditioned space (either by installing a ductless system or placing ductwork in parts of the home that are already heated and cooled).
    • High-performance lighting: The new standards will cut lighting energy in homes by almost half by requiring a high-efficacy bulb (such as a CFL or LED) in every socket. The standards also sets quality performance requirements to ensure that these bulbs meet consumer expectations. The standards provide builders flexibility by allowing screw-based bulbs for most socket-types.
    • Water heating: The new standards require the use of an instantaneous tankless gas water heater, which saves energy by heating water on demand rather than storing it in a tank, or one with equivalent energy performance.


    lol at these prices
    http://www.calatlantichomes.com/find-your-new-home/37-bay-area.html
     
  3. Mostly apartment buildings, often on the tall side of things. Some are a little more eclectic and almost all have some kind of luxurious touch to them. The regular houses are usually pretty different from one another and aren't normally part of some project. Prices are, of course, crazy high for what you get and where you end up living (i.e Israel).
     
  4. Here all the new houses (upgraded ones and brand new ones ) look like this. So fucking ugly, jersey shore like

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  5. Mostly this.
    Needlessly big and
    poor materials.
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  6. why do they want the flat roofs? is solar a consideration in australia

    as you can see california is worried primarily about energy efficiency
     
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    stuff being build right now.
     
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  8. Building apartments follows trends set by bigger countries. The ecological trend is up here too, although first wave of these are going to have problems later in life.

    Our climate sort of requires a minimum excess heating the keep materials dry and lasting.
    There is of course room to improve, but my favorite "does not concern us" thing are those light bulb specs.
    Three quarter year the wasted energy from them is just needed heating and the remaining quarter is when daylight is ever present.

    Walls, attics and windows have always been heavily insulated. I have only seen single and double windows abroad.

    http://www.etuovi.com/kohde/9816176?sc=LRturku_nodistr&so=ya&pos=91

    http://www.etuovi.com/kohde/1194223?sc=LRturku_nodistr&so=ya&pos=137

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    They're also building this near my office. I think those orange balconies are fucking ugly.
     
  10. Lol fascist rules.
    Lol @ rain collectors in an island country. Poor starving plants. #grasslivesmatter
     
  11. flat roof tiles*
    Because someone decided they look better, and therefore everyone must use them. Really the only reason....

    I was working on a house, the guy in the freshly built house across the road had to remove all his roof tiles, and replace them with flat ones, because he "should have read local rules", which didnt allow curved tiles, as it didnt match his neighbours.... ugh.

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    as opposed to this - [​IMG]
     
  12. Luckily Åbo isn't considered a part of Finland

    Proper finns live like this (just add snow and booze):

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    And they act like this (t= 0:52):

     
  13. ÄLÄ LEIKI PERKELE JEESUSTA ISO MIES
     
  14. Ettei herralla vaan olis kaukolämpö?
     
  15. Päälämmönlähdehän ei vaikuta tuohon valoyhtälöön. Yleisesti vois ajatella, että suomessa talvella ei ole olemassa hukkalämmönlähteitä ja kesäisinkään ei montaa viikkoa ole, kun mitään rakennuksia pitää viilentää. Yökylmän kun saisi talteen, sillä pärjättäisiin kokonaan.

    Sinänsä, postaus nyt oli huolimaton ja sarkasmivapaa. Kiittää korjauksesta. :)

    Olin missannu risumiehen, kuullu toki, mutta en nähny pätkää.
     
  16. Perkele!
     
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  17. white trash
     
  18. Free Country
     
  19. Sekin on nyt kuollut :(

    Vaikuttaa sikäli, että kaukolämpö on Suomessa 75%:sti kotimaisen sähköntuotannon hukkalämpöä. Kapasiteettia olisi reilusti ylimäärin; esimerkiksi ydinvoimaloiden lauhdevedet lämmittävät yksinomaan kaloja. Sähköntuotannon kotimaisuusaste vaihtelee päivittäin, mutta on jatkuvasti n.2GW kysynnän alapuolella (Lähde: Fingrid):

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    Kotitalouksien lämmittäminen sähköllä on periferian haja-asutusta lukuunottamatta se kaikkein kallein ja vähäjärkisin tapa. Asuntojen lämmitystarvekin vaihtelee melkoisesti. Iso vanha omakotitalo saattaa tarvita kesälläkin lämmitystä, mutta pieni, hyvin eristetty kerrostalokaksiomme lämpiää vallan mainiosti puolet vuodesta pelkällä kodinkoneiden ja ihmisten tuottamalla lämmöllä. Tähän vuodenaikaan ikkuna on jatkuvasti raollaan, kesällä on pakko käyttää ilmastointilaitetta.

    Hehkulamppuja on ollut käytössä jo 200 vuotta. Niiden hyötysuhde vaihtelee 2-5% välillä, eli joka tilanteessa 95% niiden käyttämästä sähköstä menee "harakoille". Ajattele vaikkapa muuntajaa tai jääkaappia, jolla olisi yhtä huono hyötysuhde. Moinen keksintö olisi viskattu romukoppaan jo ajat sitten. Miksi hehkulamppu olisi tässä suhteessa jotenkin erityinen? Niiden käyttöikäkin on surkea verrattuna hohtodiodeihin.

    Hehkulampuista luopuminen on globaali ilmiö jotain Pohjois-Koreaa ja Afrikan paskavaltioita lukuunottamatta. Kyseessä ei ole mikään EU:n yksinään laatima kurkkudirektiivi. Lamppujen valmistajilla on sen tason volyymit, että Suomen kokoista markkina-aluetta varten tuskin kannattaisi edes pitää tuotantolinjaa pystyssä.

    On totta, että LED-valaisimiin siirtymisen tuoma kokonaishyöty Suomessa pienempi kuin vaikkapa Brasiliassa, mutta hyötyä se on silti. Sähkölämmitteisissä taloissa hyöty on +/-0, mutta muilla tavoin lämpiävissä kotitalouksissa sähkönkulutus pienenee luumenia kohden yhtä paljon kuin Brasiliassa.

    Sitä yökylmää on näillä leveysasteilla tallessa maan uumenissa ja järvien pohjassa vallan riittävästi :) Täällä on Espan alla vesiakku, johon tulee Päijännetunnelin kautta kylmää vettä, jota käytetään kaukojäähdytykseen. Maalämpöpumput toimivat samalla periaattella. Ei tarvinnut skidinä hiekkalaatikolla kesähelteelläkään kauhean syvälle kaivaa kun alkoi näpit viiletä.
     
  20. I only see one type of house and even those are floating
     
  21. Well this is the netherlands after all
     
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  22. Also, what's up with the ääääääääääääääääöööööööööööööööö
     
  23. I'm having a light bulb debate with PGN1

    He's pro-incandescent bulb and I'm pro-LED
     
  24. My whole house is full of LED. I used to have lightbulbs, but they break down more often than LED. Lightbulb colour is more warm though. That's the only downside of LED, it's a bit too bright.
     
  25. I am a dinosaur. I actually have only recently bought first led bulbs. They are bright yes.

    Hippo is being very scholar in pointing my short cutting on how we use electricity. He is mostly right. I might have been a bit pessimistic there, will correct my attitude. Only optimism is allowed.
     

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