My first ride in a Supercar

Discussion in 'American Cars' started by SirShiftAlot, Oct 17, 2004.

  1. The ACR GTS turned a higher slalom speed then the SRT-10 and only the Ferrari Enzo has proven faster through the slalom.

    But what did hurt the Viper's were a lack of ABS, later models got ABS but best 60-0 without ABS was about 122 feet. The SRT-10 blows it out of the water thanks to its ABS system and it also keeps you from flying off the road. Reminds me of a mountian run with a GTS vs a Ferrari F355, the GTS blew past the F355 in the twisties and straights but lock the brakes up going into one corner and fell off the mountian 100 feet landing in some bushes. driver was ok.
     
  2. I saw a yellow one a month ago. Which falls into the "big deal" catagory in Australia. It was wide/low/awesome.
     
  3. Vipers are awesome, I'd take a GTS over an SRT-10 (if only for looks).
     
  4. I do for my daily driver! It picks up all the chicks and pulls HARD when you turn off the A/C! Man I want to drive it so bad now! I'll be right back!
     
  5. ABS only helps car reviewers who do not know how to drive, anybody with skill can drive without ABS (I drive on ice without ABS 6 months of the year). A car without an ABS system can stop faster than one with, the driver just has to know how to drive. If he hit the brakes hard enough to lock them up, then he was going to fast for the corner and ABS wouldn't have saved it.
     
  6. Yeah that's the same additude the yuppie Euro-trash had before the last generation Viper dominated their FIA GT series for 3 years in a row.
     
  7. except on the N-ring where it was slower than the old GTS.
     
  8. not on snow and ice. i have been plenty happy for abs when i hit a patch of black ice, or slushy snow. i dunno how bad regina (you live in regina, right?) is, but Ottawa is enough reason for abs. the wheels locked up with very little pressure on the brake pedal.
     
  9. but he didnt get to ride in a GT serries car so its irrelevant
     
  10. To start with, yup, regina is worse. We already have all road surfaces coated with a nice layer of ice. I do mean coated, there is no road surface at the moment w/o ice on it.

    Anyways, funny thing about ABS is that it pulses the brakes rapidly to maintain control. When there is no rotation to the tire, you have no control. However, the drawback is that there is an increase in stopping distance since a locked tire will be acheiving maximum friction. From a control point, ABS does give more controlled breaking and because you are not sliding out of control, it feels like you are stopping quicker. It is wierd, yet true.
     
  11. because this is sc.net and it's what we do best here.
     
  12. i thought that a locked wheel was less effective than one right on the edge of locking. it feels that way on my bike. its definately nice to have the control, even if it increases distance. i've had my moms car (no ABS) slide completely sideways when braking in snow, even while being very cautious. my dads car will turn only a small amount, if at all, and is much easier to recover.
     
  13. Nope, full locked will always have best grip for deceleration, but, a sliding tire will not turn. If you ever look up braking distances for any car, the ABS one will normally have a longer braking distance. A good example is of the weather today here. Wet snow, everything is glazed. there is one intersection by my house that is a slight downhill. With ABS, a person can slide right through the intersection because almost all the braking power is let off to prevent lock. however, my car will do that out of control slide, but still stop.
     
  14. i personally am fond of ABS. it's saved my arse a few times.
     
  15. You are correct and KW_Killer as always is WRONG. If your wheel is locked then your tires skid and you loose traction. The fastest way to stop is when you are right at the edge of locking a tire.

    Yes cars without ABS can stop faster but only in experienced hands and not retards like KW_Killer.
     
  16. I'm just wondering, is everything you say negative?
     
  17. the supra wasnt made in mass quantites, yet its not considered a supercar.
     
  18. indeed. also those are much cheaper now than the SRT-10
     
  19. you still drive a rustang so SCAT <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/emoticons.html"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="http://speed.supercars.net/pitlane/emoticons/tongue.gif"></A>
     
  20. #45 kw_killer, Oct 18, 2004
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    Listen you stupid #$%#head, pull your boyfriend's cock out of your ass and do some research for once, right out of the god damn NHTSA!

    "Do cars with ABS stop more quickly than cars without? ABS is designed to help the driver maintain control of the vehicle during emergency braking situations, not make the car stop more quickly. ABS may shorten stopping distances on wet or slippery roads and many systems will shorten stopping distances on dry roads. On very soft surfaces, such as loose gravel or unpacked snow, an ABS system may actually lengthen stopping distances. In wet or slippery conditions, you should still make sure you drive carefully, always keep a safe distance behind the vehicle in front of you, and maintain a speed consistent with the road conditions."


    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/Equipment/absbrakes.html
     
  21. Listen you stupid #$%#head, pull your boyfriend's cock out of your ass and do some research for once, right out of the god damn NHTSA!

    "Do cars with ABS stop more quickly than cars without? ABS is designed to help the driver maintain control of the vehicle during emergency braking situations, not make the car stop more quickly. ABS may shorten stopping distances on wet or slippery roads and many systems will shorten stopping distances on dry roads. On very soft surfaces, such as loose gravel or unpacked snow, an ABS system may actually lengthen stopping distances. In wet or slippery conditions, you should still make sure you drive carefully, always keep a safe distance behind the vehicle in front of you, and maintain a speed consistent with the road conditions."

     
  22. Viper is an "exotic" not a "supercar".

    Example..

    Exotics: Gallardo, 360 Modena, Viper, 911 Turbo

    Supercars: Murcielago, Enzo, S7, Carrera GT

    I wonder if the Corvette should be an exotic or the high end sports car...
     
  23. Ahh, that last post makes me feel better. For some reason that I do not understand, The Drift Queen feels this overwhelming urge to put statements that make him feel as though he has any sort of genetalia ahead of factual information that is derived from a variety of sources from engineering, science books, and technical manuals. The more he talks, the less I believe that he has any real world experience in the automotive field. And again I find one simple word ending my reply to his idiocy...

    owned...
     
  24. Ok man, Its not like everone has been driven in a Lambo. I bet half the members here havent even been in a Viper or Corvette, while it was being driven
     
  25. #50 F1LM My Car, Oct 19, 2004
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    http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/crstp.html

    "For calculating minimum stopping distance, a value of 0.8 is a nominal value for the coefficient of static friction between good tires and a good road surface. Generally, coefficients of kinetic friction are less, and may be dramatically less for wet, icy, or oily surfaces. For many existing tires, the coefficient of kinetic friction on a dry road surface may approach 0.8 if the braking is not so prolonged as to cause tire melting."


    Also, the info you posted didn't say anything about differences in stopping distances between a locked tire and a turning tire, it's just about how ABS helps maintain control.
     

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