My New Acquisition - Old VW Content...

Discussion in 'Classic Cars' started by Monkey, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. Free flow? That must make quite a rattle, right? Well, I understand the stock exhaust is quite restrictive (just look at the diameter of those tips!) but wouldn't a double free-flow set bbe better than a single merged system? I dunno, I'm just guessing again... And BTW, is that system catalysed? If so, is it inside the pan or just doesn't show on the pics you linked?
     
  2. My '67 had a 6V system. Euro-model though, so it has the early headlamps as well. Disk brakes in the front and 4-lug wheelhubs.
     
  3. Apparently this particular muffler is fairly quiet until you really bury your foot in the throttle.

    Back to the dual quiet packs, if there was a dual system with the long radius bends like the single muffler I'm getting, then it would more than likely perform better. The "typical" dual quiet packs and inexpensive headers just aren't quite as good as the setup I'm purchasing... they were designed to improve performance on a tighter budget (usually). Not that I have an unlimited budget, but I figured I might as well replace the really good header with another really good header and the place I'm buying the header from has only this muffler to go with the very good merged header. I didn't want to do one of those stingers (the straight pipe out the back) because that would be WAY too loud for street use.... especially with the kids in the back seat near all the noise. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  4. I must be getting my years mixed up. Maybe '69 was the first year for 12V.... It's been a while since I had a Beetle. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  5. Personally (as I think I've already referred...), I prefer a dual exhaust pipe arranjement. I really dislike those one-side single pipes or those stingers (which are even worse!!). But I'm really looking forward to what will come out of your little "project". Sorry for insisting but that "really good header" came already with the car? I mean, was it the one the kid (or the guy from who he bought it) had installed or did you buy that aswell?

    And one more thing: could you post any pictures of your beetle's engine? Does it look nice? I bet it does... <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  6. '67 I believe, his coulda been on of those super "base" models, you know the ones that still had cable operated brakes and were avalable in europe till like '73 I think.
     
  7. Psh, it was the top-of-the-line 1500 model. Anyway, the '67 US/Euro models are different where the front lights are concerned, I think it may extend to the electrical system as well.
     
  8. Here's a pic of the engine. It's pretty dirty at the moment. Sorry for the delay, I've been crazy busy.
     
  9. #84 Monkey, Aug 11, 2008
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    UPDATE

    So, I replaced the oil drain plate and screen this weekend and so far, the engine isn't leaking. Hooray! I even got it pretty hot by letting it run for a while in the garage (doors open of course) and still no leaks. This morning I ordered a new header and muffler from AJ Sims ( www.lowbugget.com). The header is like the one pictured below, but in black ceramic coating instead of silver, and the muffler pictured below is what I ordered except for a brushed, not polished finish.
     
  10. No problem! Oh, you can't say that's dirty! Mine looks worse that that after cleaned (GM straight-4 1.0 iron block... pretty messy!). It looks darn good! And that's a more permissive air filter than the stock one. Is it the carb stock or alreay aftermarket? Man, so jealous! If you dump that engine, I'll keep it! <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  11. Stock carburetor. I'm going to save up so when I eventually build the bigger engine, I can run dual Kadron carbs and such. If the case starts to leak on me from the area where it got pummeled by whatever the dude ran over, I'll probably have to use my spare case and just reuse the main parts of the current engine with new bearings and seals. Otherwise, the spare case can just hang out until I'm ready to build the bigger engine, then I can ship the 1641 to you. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  12. Gee, thanks! :D
    Once again, I'm not much of an expert on those kinds of things but wouldn't Webers breathe better than the Kadrons or there just aren't compatible one for Bug engines?
     
  13. I've just heard that the Webers are much harder to get tuned and to keep tuned... plus they cost more. I'd like to get a set of Dellortos, but they're just as hard to tune and they're impossible to find in good shape (they aren't made anymore). The Kadrons will flow plenty of air and fuel for the bigger engine I'm planning on building, and since they're easier to tune and less money, that's the route I'll likely go.
     
  14. That's normal. After all, they are race-derived! And yeah, I know they're expensive and particularly twin carbs are even harder to tune / syncro.
     
  15. UPDATE

    The header and muffler FINALLY showed up on the doorstep yesterday. I'm going to try to get the header installed, the rearmost engine tin installed, the front wheel bearings changed, and brakes adjusted this weekend. If I can get all that done, I'll drive der Bug to the DMV on Monday and get it registered. If the weather is nice enough, I may even drive it to work!! I'm excited! I'll take more pictures and post a thorough update when I'm done.

    I did manage to replace the fuel gauge (the needle was broken) and install a trickle charger last weekend. I have the plug coming out from under the heater panel below the back seat, so all I have to do is plug an extension cord in, I don't have to pull up the seat all the time to keep the charger going. We'll see how that goes for a while. If I decide it looks too goofy, I'll just keep the back seat pulled up to keep the charger plugged in.

    Anyway, here are pictures of the actual header and muffler.
     
  16. Well, it didn't get together completely this weekend. The last exhaust stud I started tightening down pulled out of the head. So I picked up a helicoil kit and a new stud at NAPA (auto parts place) yesterday. The drill bit ended up being too long (even with a right angle drive for the drill) to fit between the rear apron and exhaust flange on the head, so my dad took the bit to work and is going to have the machinists there cut it down for me. So it looks like I might be shooting for this coming weekend instead. And I promise pictures of the repair to the head and stuff.
     
  17. Dellortos are easy to tune and they stay tuned once set. Webers are easy to tune, but you need to make sure you set the screws properly or they don't stay tuned. Kadrons are ok, but not as powerful as the other selections. Another good choice is the CB Performance EFI, or even Megasquirt, especially if you are going to be building up anything alrger than an 1835.

    Nice project. As many here know, I've built over 30 custom air cooled VWs, from Bajas to drag bugs, and everything inbetween. That '66 is a typical Washington Bug, and about the stance that most of them tend to be (mine often had only an inch and a half clearance at the beam...). Here are a few of mine:
     
  18. That's VERY cool! Did you do those professionally?
     
  19. The oval window and scalloped Bug were done for customers, while the lavendar and baja bugs were personal. Here is another couple personal ones...
     
  20. Wow Chris, I haven't seen you post in AGES! Welcome back? <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>

    I still love the purple and white oval you built. Since I got the header all bolted up (except for the stud that pulled out of course), I see that I have 1.5-2" ground clearance to the header with the air let out of the helper springs. It's more like 3.5" or so with the helper springs pumped up. I'll just have to carry a floor pump with me so I can let the air out at shows and stuff.

    Hopefully I'll get it together this weekend. I'll probably try to tackle the exhaust stud replacement Wednesday night and I'll post pics.
     
  21. I was actually thinking about Megasquirt with ITB's too. Part of me wants to do dual carbs just so I can teach my kids about them... (how else will they learn about old car stuff?) but I know EFI is sooooo much better. It's a tough choice. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    I don't suppose you have any big Dellortos laying around you would be willing to part with? <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>

    I think my current plan for a future engine (I'm going to run this 1641 as long as I can) is still a 2007cc...
     
  22. And a carb'ed engine sounds sooos much better than an EFI one...I'd always choose twin carb on a Bug, specially if you're not gonna race it or anything.

    And please, don't break my engine until you get that 2007cc... <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  23. LOL @ "And please, don't break my engine until you get that 2007cc..."

    You're too funny. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    Hopefully I'll get to leave work a little early today and get a jump start on installing a new exhaust stud in the head tonight. Then the rest of the weekend should go smoothly. I'm really hoping to get the new exhaust re-installed, the front wheel bearings changed, and the brakes adjusted so I can get the car registered at the DMV on Monday. I want to drive it at least once before the crappy weather hits and it has to hibernate in the garage...
     
  24. Saw this the other day. Thought it was worth sharing <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  25. That's beautiful. Thanks for sharing. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>

    I think someday I'll get the deluxe bumpers like that...
     

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