My New Acquisition - Old VW Content...

Discussion in 'Classic Cars' started by Monkey, Jun 24, 2008.

  1. Oh maaan, like I've already said this thread is going to be the end of me. Hopefully next year I'll be able to get one if I sell my car and don't need a car for transport every day. Fingers crossed anyway. I want one so bad.
     
  2. Here we go. I got the new exhaust stud installed and the header and muffler bolted on today. I'm pretty happy about that. Here come the pics.

    Tools needed. See captions (assuming they work).
     
  3. More tools. The hammer and drift are used to break the tang off the thread insert (you can see the tang on the up-close shot of the thread insert). See how far I had to shorten the drill bit?? I didn't want to drop the engine, so I used a right-angle drive off my drill and then I cut down a drill bit (with help from some machinists) so I could fit everything between the exhaust port and the rear apron.
     
  4. Here's the hole where the stud was, and another shot of it with the new header removed. I'm also drilling the pilot hole for the tap, and I'm ready to start tapping threads.
     
  5. Okay, I used some electrical tape on the tap to tell me how deep to go with the tap. Threads tapped. Then I'm inserting the Helicoil (thread insert). After threading the insert all the way in, you use the hammer and drift to break the tang. Then I inserted the stud. Double nutting ftw!
     
  6. And then I bolted the header back in and installed the muffler. I can get more detailed pics later if y'all want. Perspective is everything... look how low this sits! Note that this is with the air let out of the helper springs in the rear. If I inflate them, the rear end goes up another about 1-1/2" (38mm)... still, I think after I get it to the DMV and registered, my next project will be to rotate the torsion bars a couple of splines to raise the rear end up a little bit. And finally, here's a picture of the busted up old header.
     
  7. Dude, that looks hottt.
     
  8. not liking the exhaust... looks too ricerish/new school on such an old school vehicle. doesn't match the time period.
     
  9. It matches a massive Beetle movement though, and is hardly ricerish.
     
  10. maybe not, but looks ricerish, that type of muffler and exhaust pipe.
     
  11. This general style of Beetle performance exhaust has been around for decades. If anything, the ricers bastardized the idea. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  12. maybe... but still. just doesn't look period correct in my eyes, compared to other things i've seen... i know i might be knocking it but not for the wrong reasons or without reasons.
     
  13. Don't think I forgot you'd ship the 1641cc when you got the 2007. So, don't break it LOL ;p

    Man, that stance is loooow! Although, needless to say again, I don't like the way the exhaust LOOKS (I totally understand why you chose those headers & muffler but specially shat curved pipe sticking out of the middle of the rear end and going back under again just looks too odd. If only there were headers of that bore flowing into a free-flow middle muffler, it would attain the same performance (maybe even better, since the smoke would have less piping to go through)in a more pleasant package. I think I have asked it before but, is that stainless steel or just chromed metal sheet?

    Poor old header; it tasted too much speed bumps/curbs... Take better care of that one <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>
     
  14. That's fine that you don't like it. Joao Gois doesn't like it either. I'm fine with that... everyone is welcome to have their own tastes. I was just letting you know that style has been around forever, whether you like the look or don't. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  15. Yeah, the previous owner obviously didn't drive it too carefully. I'm going to be careful, but after I get it registered, it's going to hibernate for the winter and I'll work on increasing the ground clearance in the rear. I like how it looks that low, but I know that no matter how careful I am, someday I'll whack something with it. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/wink.gif"></A>

    I could have run a "stinger" coming off the header (picture a long, tapered pipe coming out of the center off the header), but even with the baffles, they're REALLY loud. This one is pleasantly loud... if that makes sense. I could have ponied up for A-1's "Sidewinder" exhaust that tucks everything up out of the way, but it would have cost me at least twice as much. I may end up getting one eventually anyway, but I'm going to try this for now. Oh, and the muffler and piping are stainless. The exhaust header is ceramic-coated mild steel.
     
  16. #116 Joao Gois, Oct 14, 2008
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    Yeah, I know what you mean with a stinger. That, IMO, is the worse they can to to a Bug. Those are illegal here in Portugal. I've never heard one IRL but I was told it is VERY loud. No wonder, it has no muffler! It's like taking off the muffler off a motorcycle LOL.

    Those A1s are really nice! too bad they only have 1 header and one muffler. A twin set would be sweeter. But that's a nice set, really nice!

    http://www.dlkweb.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=38

    And this engine looks sooo gooooood! ME WANTS IT!

    My ideal would be something like this, but preferably with bigger diameter: http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_20366G_CL_1.jpg
     
  17. Most of the exhaust systems from JC Whitney have questionable quality and won't flow as well as a good merged header. That style is definitely cleaner looking though. I have a stock muffler laying around with some big tips (looks similiar from the outside of the car as the second link you posted) that I thought about using, but I decided to go the route I did. And it sounds sweet. <A BORDER="0" HREF="http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?displayFAQ=y"><IMG BORDER="0" SRC="pitlane/emoticons/smile.gif"></A>
     
  18. I don't remember the stinger on my Baja being all that loud. But then again, I like the sound of my current 740iL with no mufflers (I pulled the stock muflers off and just run catalytic converters and exhaust tips) so maybe I'm not one to talk... hahahaha.
     
  19. Only in America. Any of those solutions here would be (thankfully) illegal.

     
  20. Yeah, by the pictures I supposed they weren't exactly the best quality; grainy and thick rough metal, not the best finish, the connections don't look solid and clean, the piping has small diametre and that muffler is soo small! That was simply to illustrate.

    These are my ideas of "ideal" in paper (please, don't make fun of my drawing skills :p). I dunno if ther is anything on the market similar to this with free-er flow.

    As I posted before, I've driven a 1966 stock 1300 and I was just in love with that engine sound. I can't imagine how good yours must sound now...
     
  21. Only option left.
     
  22. Now that you say that, the Baja's I've heard running around here don't seem to be as loud as a couple of Bugs (non-Baja) I've heard with the straight-back "street" stinger. Maybe because the exhaust outlet is up higher and angled up higher so the sound is projected more upward...

    The '66 Ford F-100 I had was headers followed by glass-packs. I loved the sound of that old FE engine.
     
  23. There are systems similar to the one you drew on the left, but the ones I have seen are all for Baja Bugs since the exhaust outlets are above the engine. You know, you could take the A-1 Sidewinder exhaust and just run a second pipe off the outlet of the muffler and poke the two pipes out in the stock location. That might be kinda cool.

    The exhaust sounds good. I dig it. I don't have a video camera (I need to get one soon before the girls grow up), but I could probably borrow one. I'll see if I can get a hold of a video camera and post a video on youtube or something so you guys can hear what it sounds like.
     
  24. #124 Chris V, Oct 15, 2008
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    Only in America? I copied my exhaust from numerous examples on the road in Europe.

     
  25. #125 Joao Gois, Oct 15, 2008
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    ... which doesn't mean it's legal!
     

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